RTA 11TL question

[aud10n3wb13]

I love the highs on the RTA 11T that is with me right now. I saw on newspaper ad a guy selling his RTA 11TL. I have seen mixed opinions regarding the tweeters. Will I get better sound using the 11TLs?

Thanks.

[F1nut]

Nothing mixed about it, the SL3000 is much better than the SL2000. However, the RD0 replacements are better than either with the SL3000 replacement tweeter the better of the two. IMO, the short answer to your question is yes.

[aud10n3wb13]

Thanks for responding. I really appreciate it. The place is far from me so I can't test right now. I left a voice message but haven't got a call back yet. Anyways, I've got an original cd here from Sandi Patti. Her voice is high. I really like how she sounds on the 11T I have here right now. How will her high voice perform on the SL3000?

[F1nut]

I can't say for sure, never listened to Sandi Patti, but anything should sound better thru the SL3000's.

[aud10n3wb13]

I can't say for sure, never listened to Sandi Patti, but anything should sound better thru the SL3000's.

Ok. I should bring in my cd then. Hopefully this guy responds and not a fake ad. Or what can you say about highs between the 2 models?

Thanks again. :)

[aud10n3wb13]

Nothing mixed about it, the SL3000 is much better than the SL2000. However, the RD0 replacements are better than either with the SL3000 replacement tweeter the better of the two. IMO, the short answer to your question is yes.

Is the RD0 replacement applicable for 11T or is it just for the 11TL?

[F1nut]

RD0194-1 replaces the SL2000
RD0198-1 replaces the SL3000

I think the SL3000/RD0198-1 sound better than the SL2000/RD0194-1

[danger boy]

keep your RTA11T's you just got.. and replace them SL2000 tweeters and be done with it.. then enjoy your music... forget about the RTA11TL's. you already got basically the same pair already in your casa.

[aud10n3wb13]

keep your RTA11T's you just got.. and replace them SL2000 tweeters and be done with it.. then enjoy your music... forget about the RTA11TL's. you already got basically the same pair already in your casa.

It's because I might be able to save $100 if I will be able to haggle the price on the 11TLs.

[danger boy]

nothing wrong with owning more than one pair of vintage speakers. :)

[aud10n3wb13]

nothing wrong with owning more than one pair of vintage speakers. :)

My wife is going to kill me if I do that :D

I'll just bring in some cd to try them. However, I still have not receive a call yet.

[aud10n3wb13]

The 11Ts will be staying with me. I got a call from the seller and it got sold so quickly. :D

[aud10n3wb13]

RD0194-1 replaces the SL2000
RD0198-1 replaces the SL3000

I think the SL3000/RD0198-1 sound better than the SL2000/RD0194-1

Can RD0198-1 be put on the 11Ts? Do you think I will hear a lot of improvements? What are the improvements that I will be hearing? Is it regarding instrument sounds?

[MillerLiteScott]

RDO 194 are the replacement tweeter. I don't think the 198 can be put in the T version easily (anything is possible). The 198 is the replacement for the TL version.

Order yourself some 194's and enjoy yourself. That's what I did, then I crossed the line and bought SDA's. For the record I did not know there was a line.

Scott

[F1nut]

For the record I did not know there was a line.

That's what they all say.

[aud10n3wb13]

RDO 194 are the replacement tweeter. I don't think the 198 can be put in the T version easily (anything is possible). The 198 is the replacement for the TL version.

Order yourself some 194's and enjoy yourself. That's what I did, then I crossed the line and bought SDA's. For the record I did not know there was a line.

Scott

Can you be specific as to what improvements I will hear? Where do we buy this 194s? And am I correct that it's only the tweeter that needs to be replaced and not the crossover?

Thanks.

[Ron Temple]

You like the way they sound right? If you develop a sense of harshness from the SL2000 peak, then upgrade, if not then enjoy your speakers. I've never had a problem with the 2000s, but I did the upgrade to 194s. I don't regret it, but it wasn't/isn't night and day for me. Some really can't stand the 2000 and it must have to do with their hearing vs mine...but then I'm older and might need the spike to hear it ;).

[candyliquor35m]

If you love the highs, why would you want to change the tweeters. Everyone that is changing the tweeters on your speakers hates the highs.

[F1nut]

Smoother sound.
Call Polk at 1-800-377-7655 x 891.
Correct.

[F1nut]

If you love the highs, why would you want to change the tweeters. Everyone that is changing the tweeters on your speakers hates the highs.


WRONG!!!

You don't like the new tweeters, but you don't like the old ones either without slapping a cap on them. Time for you to pipe down, all you're doing is confusing people and you don't even know what you're doing, making matters even worse.

[candyliquor35m]

I loved the sl2000's from day 1 but as I moved up the audio food chain which added more clarity, detail and power, they became a little brighter with every upgrade. The same thing would have happened with any tweeter.

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63676

Try the cap and do a side by side comparison of the sl2000wc (with cap) and the rd0194 and then we can have a discussion on this.

[F1nut]

Discussion about what? You don't even know the difference between a resistor and a cap. Pffft.

[aud10n3wb13]

Ok F1nut, once I get extra money, I will ask your guidance on how to install it and other parts I need to buy. What is a cap? Is this something that I should buy?

[F1nut]

The tweeters (RD0194-1) are drop in replacements, nothing to it.

Cap is short for capacitor. There are some mounted on your crossover boards. You can upgrade from the stock ones, but why don't you take it a step at a time, do the tweeters first and worry about crossover upgrades later, if desired.

[candyliquor35m]

I'm recommending $12 worth of caps that I've been using on my sl2000's for over a year instead of over $200 for new tweeters that he has no idea what they will sound like or if he will like them. I know what I would do if I was in his position.

[aud10n3wb13]

by the way, can you tell if my tweeter is an SL2000 by just showing a picture? I know for sure that it is not an SL3000 because the text is horizontal and it says Silver Dome Coil. How does the RD0 look like? Anyone please with a picture?

[aud10n3wb13]

I'm recommending $12 worth of caps that I've been using on my sl2000's for over a year instead of over $200 for new tweeters that he has no idea what they will sound like or if he will like them. I know what I would do if I was in his position.

It's ok. I'm sure that Polk Audio company made the RD0 to fix a bug in the previous version. I'm not against your recommendation but I would like to try Polk Audio's route first. If in case it doesn't work, then it's my lost. Then I will try your route for sure. I know my thinking is wrong/upside down because it's more expensive :D

[candyliquor35m]

I'm glad you're comfortable making an informed decision. Be sure to install the new tweeter(s) in only one speaker so you can do a side by side comparison of the old versus the new.

[avguytx]

Dude....this is getting old.

[candyliquor35m]

It's a good way to compare one tweeter to another. I haven't found a better way.

[F1nut]

We have.

[candyliquor35m]

There's no right or wrong tweeter. It's all a matter of personal taste.

The analogy that newer must be better is not always true. If it were, we would all be listening to lsi's instead of the vintage polks.

[avguytx]

I'm recommending $12 worth of caps that I've been using on my sl2000's for over a year instead of over $200 for new tweeters that he has no idea what they will sound like or if he will like them. I know what I would do if I was in his position.

Show us a link to something that says putting caps in series right at the tweeter when they already HAVE crossovers. All you are doing is changing the crossover point and wreaking havoc on the values of the stock crossover. There is no scientific method to what you're doing. I called a few buddies in the last few days asking about this and they first reaction was, "they added what where???" Two of these "buddies" are from PSB and Sunfire.

For the sake of credibility, show us ALL where it says you can simply add a cap inline at the tweeter and what those results are supposed to yield.

[MillerLiteScott]

by the way, can you tell if my tweeter is an SL2000 by just showing a picture? I know for sure that it is not an SL3000 because the text is horizontal and it says Silver Dome Coil. How does the RD0 look like? Anyone please with a picture?

Here you go.

[avguytx]

Here's a pic of the RD0-194's in the SDA 1C's I had.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/avguytx/Polk%20SDA%201C/013.jpg

[aud10n3wb13]

Here you go.

Hey, those are cool feet. How did you make 'em? ;)

[F1nut]

There's no right or wrong tweeter. It's all a matter of personal taste.

The analogy that newer must be better is not always true. If it were, we would all be listening to lsi's instead of the vintage polks.

Wow, that's quite a stretch going from a tweeter to an entirely different speaker. Got to be one of the worst analogies I've read.

[MillerLiteScott]

Hey, those are cool feet. How did you make 'em? ;)

Scrap oak, power tools, black spray paint and clear poly. Quite simple actually.
I did not like the way the original bases looked. YMMV.

[candyliquor35m]

Show us a link to something that says putting caps in series right at the tweeter when they already HAVE crossovers. All you are doing is changing the crossover point and wreaking havoc on the values of the stock crossover. There is no scientific method to what you're doing. I called a few buddies in the last few days asking about this and they first reaction was, "they added what where???" Two of these "buddies" are from PSB and Sunfire.

For the sake of credibility, show us ALL where it says you can simply add a cap inline at the tweeter and what those results are supposed to yield.

I did not make the initial recommendation and can't find the post but I tried it and it works. I'm glad that you are researching the science behind it because that needs to be done also. I've done the testing and experienced the end result. I don't have a problem with spending $3 to see if something works. That's a no brainer.

You work with electronics so it's important for you to understand the why and how. All I care about is the end result.

[aud10n3wb13]

Scrap oak, power tools, black spray paint and clear poly. Quite simple actually.
I did not like the way the original bases looked. YMMV.

If it's ok, can you take a closer pic so I will have an idea how you mounted them? Also, different angles of pictures please :p

Thanks again. ;)

[aud10n3wb13]

I did not make the initial recommendation and can't find the post but I tried it and it works. I'm glad that you are researching the science behind it because that needs to be done also. I've done the testing and experienced the end result. I don't have a problem with spending $3 to see if something works. That's a no brainer.

You work with electronics so it's important for you to understand the why and how. All I care about is the end result.

From what I understand you bought RD0 and you were not happy with it. If it's still with you, can I purchase the pair like $70. Please pm me.

[candyliquor35m]

I just sold them locally for $60 but told them they could bring them back if they don't like them. I kind of like having a pair around to do side by side comparisons with but the guy wanted to try them out so I sold them rather than having them lay around collecting dust.

[MillerLiteScott]

If it's ok, can you take a closer pic so I will have an idea how you mounted them? Also, different angles of pictures please :p

Thanks again. ;)


Her are pictures of my DIY outriggers and how they are attached.

[aud10n3wb13]

Her are pictures of my DIY outriggers and how they are attached.

Very nice!!! How did you make the edge? Did you use a router?

Thank you so much. :)

[MillerLiteScott]

Yes I did.

[PolkClyde]

I'm recommending $12 worth of caps that I've been using on my sl2000's for over a year instead of over $200 for new tweeters that he has no idea what they will sound like or if he will like them. I know what I would do if I was in his position.

I Just ordered 8 tweeters upgrade from polk for my 1.2'S Eric told me it was the upgrade for the SL2000 he said they are much better than the old SL2000. Well I like my highs or bright sounding speakers with Real good bass. But I must say the The E-mit tweeter probably would blow them(sl2000,sl3000) out of the water but the E-mit isn't a Polk speaker(tweeter)

[PolkClyde]

I'm going to get in trouble now........ hope not. :)