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zingo
02-18-2008, 02:49 PM
I'm sorry if this has been posted before, but I looked for it and couldn't find anything.
I am about to start a tube amp build that will have an output of 16wpc and an output impedance or 4 ohms. This may present a problem because my B&Ws that I would use with this set-up are of the 8 ohm nature; and if I am correct, running this high impedance on that 4 ohm amp puts too much voltage across the amp and "stuff stops working". So, I decide to find some 4 ohm speakers to match the amp, and my first thought was Lsi9s. I know that they like LOTS of low impedance power, and the impedance matching is not a problem, but how about the 16wpc? I know that they are "tube watts", but I wouldn't want to buy a pair and find out it's not a good match. Does anyone have experience with LSis and tubes; good, bad, or indifferent?
LSi9's are actually closer to 6 ohms, LSi7's would be a better match impedance wise.
dkg999
02-18-2008, 03:30 PM
A Dodd ELP tube pre and a Marsh A200 ss amp made my LSi9's absolutely sing! I haven't found a tube power amp I like the sound of yet, but I love what a tube pre and a ss amp do together.
beardog03
02-18-2008, 04:00 PM
I run 9`s with my tubes..
I love the 7`s, but would suggest a small sub with those
I am going to get a second set of 7`s, as mine are currently working as HT rears
I often wonder if 8ohm speaks would work better with tubes, rather than 4ohm...
I will let those with more tube experience chime in though
I do know that with my SS amp, and my Cary 98F1 pre, the 9`s work real well together
zingo
02-18-2008, 04:08 PM
Ya, these would be LSi9s (or whatever I choose to get) and my DIY integrated tube amp for near field listening. Ok, carry on with the chatter and thanks for the input thus far.
mulveling
02-18-2008, 04:42 PM
I don't see why an 8-ohm speaker would pose a problem from the 4-ohm output of a tube amp. My speakers are 6-ohm nominal, 3-ohm minimum, and I can run them from 4 ohm or 8 ohm output taps no problem. Usually the lower impedance speaker is the more difficult load.
I've got a 20Watt tube amp myself, unfortunately I don't have the LSi9 around anymore. However on my 6ohm, 91db speakers, I've gone up to the upper 80's/low 90's in SPL at a distance of about 9ft, and not yet heard any nasty distortion. The LSi9 are about 3db less sensitive, but if you're sitting closer that should make up for it, or more (halving the distance gets you an extra 6db).
madmax
02-18-2008, 04:57 PM
I don't think you would have a problem with the 8 ohm B&W's. However, if you are looking for speakers for use with the amp then look for some efficient speakers. Look for something between 96db @1watt to 103db@1watt.
madmax
beardog03
02-18-2008, 08:11 PM
Put it this way...
I`m going through my cd`s to see what gets rotated out...
Rasputens (sp) has a deal where you can trade in, or sell music , so.....
I just put in a CD (Candy-o by tha CARS) at almost 9 0`clock, I thought the speakers were going to blow out o the cabinets..!!!
:eek::eek::eek:
The 9`s held up, but I think it`s time for some floorstanders !!!
oh, and I`m using 100w of tube power with the Cary 12...:D
:cool:
with the Cary SLI-80, you have the option of 40w triode (sweet.:p..mids to die for), or 80w UL...:) very much everything one would want in music...sweet sound and solid punch..and the 9`s...40hm
I haven`t used 8ohm speaks in a while, but I think the Sonus Fabers I want are 8ohm
In my office the 9`s handled them very nicely...especially near feild listening...which is most of my listening lately
Ron Temple
02-18-2008, 08:34 PM
Put it this way...
I`m going through my cd`s to see what gets rotated out...
Rasputens (sp) has a deal where you can trade in, or sell music , so.....
I just put in a CD (Candy-o by tha CARS) at almost 9 0`clock, I thought the speakers were going to blow out o the cabinets..!!!
:eek::eek::eek:
The 9`s held up, but I think it`s time for some floorstanders !!!
oh, and I`m using 100w of tube power with the Cary 12...:D
:cool:
with the Cary SLI-80, you have the option of 40w triode (sweet.:p..mids to die for), or 80w UL...:) very much everything one would want in music...sweet sound and solid punch..and the 9`s...40hm
I haven`t used 8ohm speaks in a while, but I think the Sonus Fabers I want are 8ohm
In my office the 9`s handled them very nicely...especially near feild listening...which is most of my listening latelyStop playing around with those little "boutiqikee" speakers and get a pair of Fred's SDAs :p.
beardog03
02-18-2008, 09:15 PM
Me thinks I need to try something else..
Fred....speakers please..!!
actually, I am slowly saving, and starting to look at speaks again...
First I have to get the Cay 306 SACD, then...
Sorry for the de-rail..
I`ll start another thread..."Cary" on...:D
zingo
02-19-2008, 12:24 AM
I`ll start another thread..."Cary" on...:D
He he...
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