Onkyo M-282 - Bridge?

[nodeuces]

Is it possible to run an M-282 to one speaker. How would you wire it? I saw a signature on another forum where the guy had (2) RTi12s and (1) CSi5 and (3) M-282s

He has not answered any PMs so either it's not possible or my question is stupid (or both).

[George Grand]

Those amps are not bridgeable. Are the RTi12 bi-ampable? He's probably doing that, and driving the center channel with only one channel of the third amp.

[nodeuces]

All of his speakers are bi-ampable.

So if you come into a 2 channel amp with one channel from the pre-amp you can get all the power to that one channel? Not just half of it?

[George Grand]

No. You don't have to use all the channels of a multi-channel amp. He's bi-amping the center channel also. The center channel coming out of the preamp is a mono signal. Use a "Y" connector at the amp input and you can use that amp to bi-amp the center channel.

[nodeuces]

And using a Y-adapter would allow you to get the full wattage out of an amp?

[wizzy]

Do you have one of these? I've always read the M-282 is rather mediocre, though I'm sure some people will vehemently disagree.

[nodeuces]

That seems to be the consensus on this forum. But the people on this forum seem to have more money than a Kennedy too. I'm waiting on the Polkie regs to post the obligatory "Just get a Outlaw 2200 monoblock".

[George Grand]

Using the "Y" adaptor will allow you to split the center channel signal, and feed it to both channels of the Onkyo amp. Use one channel to drive the woofer in the center channel speaker, and the other channel to drive the mid and tweet.

I'm not sure that is Onkyo's best amplifier effort. It has less power available at 6 ohms than it does at 8. Not a real good sign.

[wizzy]

That seems to be the consensus on this forum. But the people on this forum seem to have more money than a Kennedy too. I'm waiting on the Polkie regs to post the obligatory "Just get a Outlaw 2200 monoblock".

Yeah, but a M-282 is $200, and a 2200 is $325

I don't have more money than Kennedy, but if I'm buying a new dishwasher/fridge/washing machine I'll gladly pay an extra bill to avoid buying the cheapest piece of crap available. That's usually how I buy major purchases - pay just enough to get into the quality stuff and not a penny more. I don't need to spend an extra $500 for an automatic ass-wiper function on my dishwasher.

If we were talking $200 versus $600 then I could understand ... but they're so close, if it were me I would save up for an extra month to get something better.

Then again, I've never owned either so disclaimer attached.

W

[avguytx]

I sell both the Onkyo version and the Integra version (ADM 2.1) and both amps are decent but definitely not "audiophile" type amps at all. Both are great 100wpc amps that a lot of my dealers use for multi-zone speakers in a system with speaker selectors, volume controls, etc. It was first introduced for when the original Onkyo and Integra receivers had 5 channel built in power but had 7.1 channel processing. The amps 100wpc rating was designed to match up with those receivers for giving the end user a true 7.1 powered setup. They'll work great for video applications but I guess I fall in the camp of someone that's perfectly content with the power of my TX-SR605 for everything as HT isn't important to me. It powers the in-wall/in-ceiling speakers just fine and with a Sunfire sub, I'm done.

Definitely not bridgeable.

[nodeuces]

Wizzy - it's not an extra bill - it's over 50% more, time 3 or 5. And your theory has no appreciable end. If you notice, product lines are price tiered so it's always just a little bit more. I also would not consider that amp to be the biggest piece of crap...the 100.00 BS amp I bought on Craigslist maybe though.

AVGuytx - I don't think RTi speakers are "audiophile" either. There are some who don't think anything polk makes is.

So the question - to avoid getting such subjective answers - should be: Does the Onkyo M-282 give a good price to power to sound ratio?

[avguytx]

If that's what you think I meant it was that your speakers weren't good, well, you read into it wrong. I think the amp is reasonably good for the money and, if you notice, I didn't put it down or your speakers. I don't think I gave you a conflicting answer to what you asked or implied...I just gave some facts on the amp. If that's the money range you want to spend on an amp, then that's great. I feel it should do a good job for you and yes, in my opinion, it does give a good price to power to sound ratio...it just can't be bridged. That's all.

Maybe this reply won't be taken out of context.

[jimi64]

It`s a decent amp.I have one and was using it to power the top end of my 12`s with other amp to the woofers.To me,the improvement was quit noticeable.More authority(slam) if you will,of course I am no audiophile by no means.I believe in your set-up if you were to add one of these you will see an improvement due to the fact those woofers wont be hogging all the power when asked to in certain music/movie passages.Just my penny`s worth.

[wizzy]

Wizzy - it's not an extra bill - it's over 50% more, time 3 or 5. And your theory has no appreciable end. If you notice, product lines are price tiered so it's always just a little bit more.

Well, reading your original question you asked if it was possible to run a M-282 into a single speaker. So, it seemed as though you wanted a single amp for a single speaker.

I was thinking you wanted a bridged M-282 for a center or something along those lines.

Yes, if you multiply it times two or three then the price goes up a bit.

[nodeuces]

Well, reading your original question you asked if it was possible to run a M-282 into a single speaker. So, it seemed as though you wanted a single amp for a single speaker.

I was thinking you wanted a bridged M-282 for a center or something along those lines.

Yes, if you multiply it times two or three then the price goes up a bit.

A single amp for EACH of my 3 to 5 of my speakers. :D

[wizzy]

A single amp for of of my 3 to 5 of my speakers. :D

Well, if it's stable to 0.25 ohms just run it all your speakers in parallel :)

[nodeuces]

No no..1 am for each of my 3 to 5 speakers. LF C RF RR LR

[wizzy]

I wonder if a bunch on m-282's would really be better than something like an 805 ...

[WilliamM2]

I wonder if a bunch on m-282's would really be better than something like an 805 ...

Probably, but if you are buying a bunch at $200 each, there are probably better choices in a multi-channel amp, like the Emotiva LPA-1 or XPA-5, or something used. The Onkyo 282's won't even drive 4 ohm loads.

[nodeuces]

Probably, but if you are buying a bunch at $200 each, there are probably better choices in a multi-channel amp, like the Emotiva LPA-1 or XPA-5, or something used. The Onkyo 282's won't even drive 4 ohm loads.

I have 8 ohm speakers and you can get M282s for 145.00 shipped on ebay. Is there a better value out there?

[WilliamM2]

I have 8 ohm speakers and you can get M282s for 145.00 shipped on ebay. Is there a better value out there?

Depends on perspective I suppose. I think both the amps I listed above are much better values. With your original plan, of one amp per speaker, you will need 5 amps. The XPA-5 is only $799, and it will have a lot more power. And if you ever get new speakers that are 4 ohm, you won't need to buy new amps.

[Toxis]

Let's see. $150ish for one amp times 5 (one per speaker) = $750. I bought my 5 ch. on eBay for $790 shipped. Sure I got one hell of a deal but I will guarantee my amp is 10 times better of an option than 5 282's. I can run mine at 4 ohms as I am with my 9's and I only have one power source drawing power and doing it very well vs 5 amps drawing power and doing a moderate job at it. I would recommend waiting for a good deal and getting what you ultimately want. If you can be patient, a deal will find it's way to you and you'll be waaaay better off.

[nodeuces]

What about AudioSource amps?

[wizzy]

Probably, but if you are buying a bunch at $200 each, there are probably better choices in a multi-channel amp, like the Emotiva LPA-1 or XPA-5, or something used. The Onkyo 282's won't even drive 4 ohm loads.

Yeah, that's what I meant ... by the time you spend that much on five M-282's you could probably get a superior five (or six or seven) channel amp. My wording was kind of bazackwards.