Affordable Hdmi Receivers?

[wingnut4772]

I haven't been keeping up on this and I am wondering what are the receiver offerings now that will do HDMI audio PCM or even the new HD surround formats. Are there any reasonably priced ones out there?

[millerman 3732]

I got my Onkyo 805 for $650 from Amazon, you could probably find a 605 for less the $400.

[unc2701]

+1 on the Onkyo. Wife's friend asked me for recommendations & it's hard to beat.

[avguytx]

Onkyo TX-SR605 has 2 in/1 out on HDMI with upconversion if that interests you. They can be had pretty reasonable right now since the 606's are coming down the pike pretty soon and have 4 in/1 out I believe.

[apphd]

Yamaha 663 can be had for under $400 as well. Stacks up well against the Onk 605 some would say it has the edge. Haven't seen much on the Onk 606 yet but would think they have stepped it up or why release it. So if your not in a hurry it should be looked at.

[wingnut4772]

Hmmmm. So what would you guys say to a 605 paired up with a Hsu Ventriloquist system for a budget set up?

[Ron-P]

I also need a receiver, I have an Outlaw 950 pre/pro and it lacks HDMI and I want to access these lossless tracks with my PS3. I just don't want to spend a lot because I eventually want a pre/pro but there too darn expensive right now so a receiver will have to do.

[wingnut4772]

I also need a receiver, I have an Outlaw 950 pre/pro and it lacks HDMI and I want to access these lossless tracks with my PS3. I just don't want to spend a lot because I eventually want a pre/pro but there too darn expensive right now so a receiver will have to do.

That's my boat too.

[unc2701]

missing that D2? :)

[Ron-P]

What's D2?

[dorokusai]

The Onkyo is hard to beat right now.

[wingnut4772]

missing that D2? :)

Oh Yeah!:(

[Fongolio]

Pioneer VSX-1017TXV-K
High current
HDMI
$400.00 or less

[McLoki]

Wing - Just an FYI, you have to step up to the onk 705 to get pre-outs..... Might be worth the price increase for that alone (over the 605). It would be for me anyway.

Good luck and definately share what you end up getting and what your impressions are when it comes in.

Michael

[wingnut4772]

Wing - Just an FYI, you have to step up to the onk 705 to get pre-outs..... Might be worth the price increase for that alone (over the 605). It would be for me anyway.

Good luck and definately share what you end up getting and what your impressions are when it comes in.

Michael

Nah...This will end up a bedroom system someday. The real deal will be separates.:D


At this point, I am just kicking it around. I may just stay with the TV speakers.

[SuperDave]

how about the denon 2808ci?

[wingnut4772]

how about the denon 2808ci?

That looks nice but it's creeping up there dollar wise.

[Keiko]

The Onkyo TX SR805's are on sale now at 6th ave electronics.

http://www.6ave.com/Shop/product.aspx?sku=ONKTXSR805B

[McLoki]

I am actually thinking about trying a Yamaha RX-V663.

Has HDMi (only 2 inputs though),
Will send all inputs via HDMi - including the on screen display(composite and component only go at 480p, but via HDMI)
has pre-outs for all channels (and 2 for the sub)
can be had new for about $350.

I am sure the amp is not that great in it, but since it has pre-outs, I have that side of the house well in hand... May be worth at least trying out.

Michael

[Danny Tse]

I am actually thinking about trying a Yamaha RX-V663.

Don't forget decoding of DSD from compatible SACD players, such as the Oppo 980, using HDMI.

[Kajun442]

I haven't been keeping up on this and I am wondering what are the receiver offerings now that will do HDMI audio PCM or even the new HD surround formats. Are there any reasonably priced ones out there?

I just ordered the 605 refurb from Club Onkyo for $299. Might be in the price range your looking to spend.

Jim

[wingnut4772]

[QUOTE=Kajun442;845175]I just ordered the 605 refurb from Club Onkyo for $299. Might be in the price range your looking to spend.

Jim[/QU
Refurb makes me nervous though ....

[demaples]

The deal on an Onkyo 805 at 6th st for $662 with free shipping is awesome.

[Kajun442]

Nothing to worry about with refurbs. I read somewhere that they have a lower return rate. I bought all my Onkyo direct from Onkyo. The only problem I had was with the CDP and they swapped it out with another. Very good cust service. You need to join Club Onkyo to get the $299 price. Original price was $364, not bad savings for 10 minutes of time.

Jim

[Ron-P]

Just joined up, $299 is a good deal and it comes with a 1 year parts / labor warranty. The only bummer, no pre-outs, I run all seperate amps. I'd have to step up to the 705 and that's $499. I may go with the 605 and just use that for a year or two until I can find a pre/pro for a decent price.

[wingnut4772]

OK. I need some help here. I can't find this from my iPhone and I am at the store.

Does the Onkyo HTSR800 do multichannel Pcm via HDMI?

[wingnut4772]

Nevermind. It doesn't.

[wingnut4772]

Does anyone else have an opinion on the above recommended Pioneer vs the rest?

[dorokusai]

I'd buy the Onkyo over Pioneer, no hesitation.

[izafar]

I am running Onkyo 605 for more then 6 months now and so I am very happy. Some might call me nuts, but I am driving a pair of LSi15s as mains with this and it gets the job done very honorably.

[dorokusai]

Of course it does, it's not THAT hard to drive. Rock on Izafar!

[apphd]

I am actually thinking about trying a Yamaha RX-V663.

Has HDMi (only 2 inputs though),
Will send all inputs via HDMi - including the on screen display(composite and component only go at 480p, but via HDMI)
has pre-outs for all channels (and 2 for the sub)
can be had new for about $350.

I am sure the amp is not that great in it, but since it has pre-outs, I have that side of the house well in hand... May be worth at least trying out.

Michael

I am sure the amp is not that great in it

McLoki, the pre-outs is what did it for me. Also 4 ohm rated (for the front mains only) will decode True Hd, DTS master audio and DTS HD Audio. Pure Direct for 2 ch. and believe it or not the amp does not sound all that bad for
<$400. I have a B-stock Emo LPA1 heading my way, so for $399 + $399 I think I have probably scored my best audio deal of my life.

wingnut It sounds like you are looking for this to use as a pre-pro for a short time (maybe I misunderstood) but I don't think that Pioneer has pre-outs either. Haven't heard the onks but a lot of happy people with them, I always kind of liked the sound from the older Pioneer's, this is my first Yamaha, and so far very pleased. (+) No HDMI hand shake or compatibility issues, no heat issues, (-) the remote is kind of lame IMO, the manual will leave you shaking your head and re-reading, for some the fact that 1080 component in can only be passed component out is an issue but did not effect me.

[Ron-P]

I think I'm going to order up one of the refurb 605s and give it a go. I don't want to spend an additional $200 for just pre-outs with the 705 as it's a short term investment until dedicated pre/pros drop in price.

[unc2701]

Also 4 ohm rated (for the front mains only)

4 ohm with a grain of salt. My LSi25's shut down my 4 ohm rated RX-V2200 at moderate volumes, so don't expect too much.
...bu that's what the pre-outs are for :D

[engtaz]

I would put them as a tie and the Elite ahead of the Onkyo.

engtaz

[Ron-P]

I just went to order up a 605 and guess what, none left, so I did the next best thing, ordered up a 705. Hey, I've got 6 Adcom amps and this things got 7.1 analog outs. Now, I'll even see if I need these Adcoms, I'm going to wire this thing up with no out-board amps and just run the receiver first, 100wpc isn't too bad.

But damn, this things got a shit-load of bells and whistles.

[wingnut4772]

I just went to order up a 605 and guess what, none left, so I did the next best thing, ordered up a 705. Hey, I've got 6 Adcom amps and this things got 7.1 analog outs. Now, I'll even see if I need these Adcoms, I'm going to wire this thing up with no out-board amps and just run the receiver first, 100wpc isn't too bad.

But damn, this things got a shit-load of bells and whistles.

Ooooh. Goody goody.:D I am glad you got one.

I am still working on it. I can't figure out the speaker situation....

[Danny Tse]

I just went to order up a 605 and guess what, none left, so I did the next best thing, ordered up a 705.

If you have time, Ron, please give up an impression of your new toy.

[wingnut4772]

I pulled the trigger on a 705 and a Hsu Ventriloquist system with the STF -2 subwoofer. I guess it will make a little decent bedroom set up.

[Ron-P]

Just FYI, Amazon has the 705, brand new for only $24 more then Onkyo's refurb price. I'll post my thoughts once it's all up and running.

[wingnut4772]

Just FYI, Amazon has the 705, brand new for only $24 more then Onkyo's refurb price. I'll post my thoughts once it's all up and running.

That's where I bought it from.:p

[Ron-P]

Actually, the refurb via ShopOnkyo totalled $526.90, my brand new one from Amazon totalled $523.65 so it's cheaper for a new unit, seems that Onkyo site's not the best deal in town.

[wingnut4772]

Actually, the refurb via ShopOnkyo totalled $526.90, my brand new one from Amazon totalled $523.65 so it's cheaper for a new unit, seems that Onkyo site's not the best deal in town.

Yep. Me too. I was tempted to throw in the iPod dock but I spent enough money already. I am just going insane in this cramped little bedroom.

Did you get a tracking number yet?

[Keiko]

I pulled the trigger on a 705 and a Hsu Ventriloquist system with the STF -2 subwoofer. I guess it will make a little decent bedroom set up.

Congrats wingnut. May it bring you many hours of enjoyment. :)

[Ron-P]

Yep. Me too. I was tempted to throw in the iPod dock but I spent enough money already. I am just going insane in this cramped little bedroom.

Did you get a tracking number yet?

No tracking # yet, most likely tomorrow. Ground shipping is free so I'm looking at a little over a week before it hits my door step.

The one thing I hate about net shopping...the wait.

[Keiko]

No tracking # yet, most likely tomorrow. Ground shipping is free so I'm looking at a little over a week before it hits my door step.

The one thing I hate about net shopping...the wait.

I understand your feelings on the wait time Ron. Here in Hawaii free ground shipping isn't an option. I always have to pay extra for Fedex or UPS and sometimes it can be expensive. 2nd day service is the cheapest option available to us.

[wingnut4772]

I understand your feelings on the wait time Ron. Here in Hawaii free ground shipping isn't an option. I always have to pay extra for Fedex or UPS and sometimes it can be expensive. 2nd day service is the cheapest option available to us.

Yeah, but you get to live in Hawaii.:)

[Ron-P]

Oh, there's something else that's tough to wait for, 10 days at Turtle Bay on Oahu in October.

I understand your feelings on the wait time Ron. Here in Hawaii free ground shipping isn't an option. I always have to pay extra for Fedex or UPS and sometimes it can be expensive. 2nd day service is the cheapest option available to us.

I thought about paying the almost additional $50 but it'd only shave off a few days so it's not worth it. It's due to ship tomorrow so I'll have an update then.

I really am looking forward to this. My HD-A1 had pre-outs so I was able to listen to a few TrueHD tracks on some of my HD-DVDs, the difference is amazing. Having this will allow me full access to all lossless tracks on Blu. Very exciting.

[Keiko]

Yeah, but you get to live in Hawaii.:)

Yep! Sunshine, mai tai and wahine in dental floss bikinis...Hey, that rhymes! :D

[wingnut4772]

Well Hsu has the STF2 sub on backorder so they are shipping the satellites first. I had to go to my storage space and dig up an old Velodyne CHT8 (my very first sub ever!:D) to use in the meantime.

I have not received any tracking numbers yet though.....


I wonder how much improvement the Hsu will be over the Velodyne...?Hmmmmm

[wingnut4772]

Ron. Here's the official Onkyo 705 AVS thread.

AVS Onkyo 705 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=935808)

[Danny Tse]

Extra 10% off on refurbished products @ shoponkyo.com thru April 30th.

[Ron-P]

Ron. Here's the official Onkyo 705 AVS thread.

AVS Onkyo 705 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=935808)
Very cool, thanks.

The receiver is due to arrive on the 25th, Friday. That's so fast for free shipping, and perfect as my weekends are Friday / Saturday.

[wingnut4772]

Very cool, thanks.

The receiver is due to arrive on the 25th, Friday. That's so fast for free shipping, and perfect as my weekends are Friday / Saturday.

OMG! Me too! We are twins!:D



I haven't gotten a tracking number for my speakers yet though:(

[Ron-P]

No tracking number here either.

Seems we'll both be enjoying new toy's come Friday, let's touch base and figure out what we're going to wear that day...we should match for this special occasion. :)

[Ron-P]

Holy sheet! I just opened that 705 AVS thread, 100+ pages...WOW!

[raudi]

Picked up a 805 a few weeks ago. I upgraded from the 605. The quality of the processors and the extra 35wpc is worth it alone. Plus now I have the option to add external amps.

[Ron-P]

That's one main reason I'm glad I went with the 705, I've got 6 Adcom amps I can use instead of the receivers.

[John K.]

Note that with the 10% off sale at Shop Onkyo that Danny mentioned, the net delivered cost of the factory refurb 705 would be about $439(with the $10 credit for registering for "Club Onkyo")and the 805 about $619. In each case there'd also be a 5% credit which could be used against future purchases.

[wingnut4772]

Note that with the 10% off sale at Shop Onkyo that Danny mentioned, the net delivered cost of the factory refurb 705 would be about $439(with the $10 credit for registering for "Club Onkyo")and the 805 about $619. In each case there'd also be a 5% credit which could be used against future purchases.

Oh well. They didn't have 10% off when I bought mine. Just the crappy ten bucks for becoming a member.:(

[wingnut4772]

I should be getting it today but I won't begetting my speakers until Wednesday.

[Ron-P]

According to Amazon's tracking info mine is out for delivery.

[Ron-P]

Well I finally got it. I was not home when UPS came by and there was no mention from Amazon that it would require a signature, so I had to drive to Anaheim to pick it up between 8-8:30, the only hours the facility was open tonight.

As a bonus, I left home around 5 and went to Disneyland, the UPS faciltiy is only a couple blocks away. While there I got a cup of coffee, walked around, and bought my second Tink figurine for the theater...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v377/Ron-P/Tink.jpg?t=1209185764

It ended up being a very nice evening. Sometimes there's nothing more relaxing then going to Disneyland solo.

[JDOGG]

How about some pics of the new receiver?

[Ron-P]

Those you can find anywhere online, besides, it's sitting on the coffee table while I demo all the gear in the theater. I'm going to revamp it all; the PS3, Onkyo 705, 2 Monster HTS-2500's, 6 Adcom amps and a 250 watt plate amp for the sub. Lots of gear to clean and relocate. It'll be a few days before the rig is up and running again.

On top of that, I'm taking off all the doors to the screenwall so the gear is exposed and visable. I'll have some cleaning and fabric work to do to the framework as well.

[JDOGG]

Sounds like you'll be pretty busy!

[Ron-P]

Well, all is not...well. Got it all wired up and went to put the gear rack into place and the HDMI out cable hung up and bent the connector going into the Onkyo. I could get an image if I wiggled the cable around so I knew it was shot. Ordered up a new cable from Bluejeans so it'll be middle of the week before I can do much more with it. :(

[wingnut4772]

Well, all is not...well. Got it all wired up and went to put the gear rack into place and the HDMI out cable hung up and bent the connector going into the Onkyo. I could get an image if I wiggled the cable around so I knew it was shot. Ordered up a new cable from Bluejeans so it'll be middle of the week before I can do much more with it. :(

Just run out and get a cheap one. You are going to wait a week to get a cable in the mail?

[JDOGG]

Get some from monoprice.com, took 2 days to get to my house in MN from CA.

[Ron-P]

Just run out and get a cheap one. You are going to wait a week to get a cable in the mail?
Bluejeans ships fast, priority mail. Should be here by Tuesday, Wednesday at the latest. But, here's the kicker....

I just ordered up the 805, I'm going to send the 705 back, I really like the look of the 805 and the extra horses under the hood. For a little more then $100 I think it's worth it.

[JDOGG]

Damn, thats the AVR I want. Congrats!

[Ron-P]

Yeah, I think it's a better machine all the way around and it's not too much more then the 705. I should have it here by Tuesday. I joined Amazon Prime so it's only $3.99 for 1-day shipping.

[millerman 3732]

I've been thrilled with my 805 so far.

[wingnut4772]

Goodness. You are worse than me!:p

[Ron-P]

The 805 arrived today. This thing is a monster, 61 lbs vr the 705's 34 lbs, took both the wife and I to get it out of the box safely. I think I'll build a dedicated shelf for it, it's too heavy for my DIY gear rack. It's also a very impressvie looking AVR. Hopefully my new HDMI cable will arrive tomorrow so I can get this thing up and running.

Just bought The Golden Compass, it's got a DTS-MA track.

[millerman 3732]

Alright, who want to take bets on how long Ron waits to get a bit streaming BD player so he can see DTS-MA and TrueHD light up across the front of that 805, I say 6 months. :p

[sdcfan19]

Pioneer VSX-1017TXV-K
High current
HDMI
$400.00 or less

This is what I use. VERY happy with the results.

[wingnut4772]

My speakers and my cables should get here today.

[JDOGG]

The 805 arrived today. This thing is a monster, 61 lbs vr the 705's 34 lbs, took both the wife and I to get it out of the box safely. I think I'll build a dedicated shelf for it, it's too heavy for my DIY gear rack. It's also a very impressvie looking AVR. Hopefully my new HDMI cable will arrive tomorrow so I can get this thing up and running.

Just bought The Golden Compass, it's got a DTS-MA track.

They have the Golden Compass out in blu-ray? Gonna have to get that from Netflix.

[wingnut4772]

Well I sent it all back. I got all fed up and spent all day trying to wire up the set up in the tiny bedroom I am staying in and all the sound went out. It just stopped working. I have been doing this long enough to know I had all my settings and inputs correct so I just decided forget it. I didn't need to spend the money anyway.

[Ron-P]

Sorry to hear it didn't work out, that sucks.

Oh, and the thread I started on the 805 is gone. Must have been lost when Justin reverted back to the old software.

[wingnut4772]

Sorry to hear it didn't work out, that sucks.

Oh, and the thread I started on the 805 is gone. Must have been lost when Justin reverted back to the old software.

Nah. It's ok. More money for me that I need. I should have waited anyway.

[millerman 3732]

Hey Ron, you heard any DTS HD MA audio bombs yet, some people over at AVS are reporting getting them with PS3 as well bitstreaming player. I heard my first one while watching the Orphanage, it happened during the one of the creepiest parts of the movie, scared the crap out of me, but good thing is it looks like a fixable problem with an update.

[BIZILL]

where the eff did my earlier post go? can't link to other forums?

[JDOGG]

some posts/threads were lost when they reverted back to old software.