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higgins79
04-23-2008, 06:54 PM
my hk avr635 just took a dump:eek: I really loved that unit. I also have an avr135 powering my bedroom set up which i also love. I ended up replacing it today with a denon avr988. I have never owned a denon but i have heard good things bout them so i figured i would give it a try. I gained hdmi pass through so i picked up some new cables too :) now i can utilized the dts hd feature that some of my blurays support. I have off tomorrow so i'll be spending the day tooling around with it.:D
obieone
04-23-2008, 07:34 PM
"Honey, I SWEAR....it was an accident":D
Monster Jam
04-23-2008, 10:12 PM
I would LOVE to have this kind of accident, but my wallet would NOT!
wingnut4772
04-23-2008, 10:20 PM
That's my idea of a good day off!
higgins79
04-24-2008, 02:00 AM
i couldnt wait till tomorrow so i started hooking it up alrdy but i ahve run into a problem and here it is. I have everything set just but i am having trouble with the true hd and dts hd settings. The ps3 decodes them internally and as such needs to be output through pcm however the avr says it can only recieve them via bitstream. If I set the ps3 to pcm the reciever will only read and display "multi" so i am kinda stuck here. any help would be appreciated
i couldnt wait till tomorrow so i started hooking it up alrdy but i ahve run into a problem and here it is. I have everything set just but i am having trouble with the true hd and dts hd settings. The ps3 decodes them internally and as such needs to be output through pcm however the avr says it can only recieve them via bitstream. If I set the ps3 to pcm the reciever will only read and display "multi" so i am kinda stuck here. any help would be appreciated
Set the PS3 to bitstream instead. You may get a warning that if you set it to bitstream, it may not decode 7.1, but that is only for anything without the latest codecs. Let us know how you go, as I too will be probably getting a Denon 3808.
higgins79
04-24-2008, 02:44 AM
instead of dts hd (i was using the "hitman" as a reference) it defaults to dts after picking dts hd in the disc menu. Appearently the ps3 will only output dts hd via pcm due to internal decoding but again the reciever wont read it accourding to the display plus the manual states it outputs dts hd via a bitstream input. the two are saying the complete opposite:confused:
I previously set my PS3 to bitstream for a DTS only disc of The Eagles, Hell Freezes Over. When set at PCM, I could not get my 5.1 Marantz receiver to light up the DTS indicator. When I changed the PS3 to bitstream instead of PCM, the receiver was receiving the DTS signal and being processed at the AVR end, and DTS lit up.
Not sure if it is the same with DTS HD, but worth a try. Go into your audio settings on the PS3 and change to bitstream and see if that works. I would test it for you but haven't received my Denon 3808 as yet. Good luck and let us know how you go.
higgins79
04-24-2008, 05:07 PM
i am gonna drop kick this stupid ps3. the pcm/bitstream issues are just driving me up a wall. at any rate i got bored and removed the brass jumpers on my rtis and replaced them with some short custom cables. Not sure if it sounds better but it sounds different. I think i am gonna sit back and listen to some dean martin and put the jumpers back on one of the towers to compair the two. anyway thats about it so far.
higgins79
04-24-2008, 11:07 PM
i just cannot get this denon and my ps3 to handshake with dts hd and dd hd becaus of how the player only pcms these formats and how the denon only recieves them with pcm. i am thinking about returning the denon and getting a onkyo 805 anythoughts?
John K.
04-25-2008, 12:29 AM
Higgins, you haven't given full details, but it appears that what you consider to be an "issue" may simply be normal operation. You say that the PS3 has decoded, for example, Dolby True HD audio data into PCM form and sent it to your 988(2808). Then, you're unhappy that "Multi" is the type of indication on the 988's display. If you mean that the display should show the original format from the disc, such as Dolby True HD, this can't happen, since it's been decoded into the basic Pulse Code Modulation form(equal in quality)and a receiver has no way of knowing how it started out before the player decoded it. The multichannel PCM data is then displayed as "Multi", as you say, because that's what it is.
higgins79
04-25-2008, 01:10 AM
ok now i am learning. so what is better then? lets just take dts for example. with the ps3 on bitstream the reciever is states dts on pcm setting it says multi so is the only difference that the ps3 is doin the decoding vs the reciever?
doggie750
09-25-2008, 12:46 PM
HIGGINS,
What's your status on this? Might pull a trigger on Denon AVR-988 but have concerns similar to yours due to my pS3. Please advice.
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