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treitz3
04-29-2008, 10:00 PM
Have any of you heard this? I know there are those on this forum that can't stand this band and I, myself am not a die-hard fan of this group either. I bought it today for YYZ to test my frequency range out on me rig.

To my delight I found out that this album has some damn good stereo effects and sounds that I haven't heard before.......or at least don't remember. It's been a long time since listening to this album and I have to say that the recording is pretty damn good. Not reference, but pretty close for some of the things I use to test my rig out. I do not recall listening to this album prior to tonight with pleasure. Eh, to listen to it for music was normal. It was an album. Now I don't know whether it's my current rig that brings this album re-master out or whether it's the reissue. All I know is that I was impressed.

Speaking of YYZ, I seem to remember a long drum rif that went on for some time and it was just the drums. I could have sworn it was YYZ and this album. Was I incorrect? From what I recall, it was a song that went on for about a minute and 23 seconds and then the drummer....and only the drummer went on for a drum solo for quite a while carrying on two to three rhythms at the same time [from time to time]. The album I have (314 534 631-2) does not have the solo. You guys and gals know what I'm talking about?

Been a while since I listened to "Limelight"........

dorokusai
04-29-2008, 10:09 PM
You are correct. Neil Peart is the drummer and it wasn't on every selection.

YYZ was the album right? I know it's on that but I think I'm confusing the tour.

treitz3
04-29-2008, 10:18 PM
The album I have is "Moving Pictures". It has the song "YYZ" listed as song 3 at 4 minutes and 24 seconds long, but no drum solo.

RuSsMaN
04-29-2008, 10:20 PM
YYZ is track 3 on side one of Moving Pictures. It's one of the tracks Neil usually might bust out into a drum solo during a concert.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvgD9nfxKsc


"The Rhythm Method" off A Show of Hands & "Different Stages" or, "O Baterista" off Rush in Rio, or "Working Man" off All the World's a Stage are all good solos from Neil. The one you are looking for is "YYZ" off Exit Stage Left, their first double live album.

dorokusai
04-29-2008, 10:39 PM
I saw them live twice, and in one of those concerts, in mid drum solo....Neil had a rotating drum set and in mid drum solo, rotated, lights changed and he continued the drum solo. It was a tripping tour de force and I've yet to recover.

Keiko
04-29-2008, 10:57 PM
Russ is correct. The drum solos you're thinking about are from the live albums. I saw Rush only once back in the mid 80's during the Grace Under Pressure tour. The drum kit rotated throughout the entire concert. There was an extreme laser light show with this huge video screen. Neil Peart of course performed a kick ass drum solo. One of the best concerts I've ever been to.

Libertyc
04-29-2008, 11:34 PM
I saw Rush twice. It was the Signals tour and Moving Pictures. Awesome band live or stuido. I remember playing the Moving Pictures 8-track like non stop till it wore out.
I like everything from Power windows and before...old Rush.

If you want a good old school taste of Rush, listen to La Villa Strangiato on some SDAs.

You'll see what I mean...

dorokusai
04-29-2008, 11:35 PM
I'll defer to Russ and Keiko since my hand is my pants.

Keiko
04-29-2008, 11:40 PM
I'll defer to Russ and Keiko since my hand is my pants.

Really Marcus, you must learn to control yourself. :D :p

dorokusai
04-29-2008, 11:43 PM
I'm a whore.

Keiko
04-29-2008, 11:49 PM
I'm a whore.
A self indulging one. :rolleyes:

Anyway, this thread got me into trivia mode...Does anyone know what the song title YYZ refers to?

Libertyc
04-29-2008, 11:52 PM
Morse code I think.

Strong Bad
04-29-2008, 11:52 PM
Ahh yes, Moving Pictures. On my list of perfect albums! Limelight is near the top of favorite Rush songs.

Neil Pert is the man!

Keiko
04-29-2008, 11:55 PM
Morse code I think.
You're warm but not correct.

daboyz
04-30-2008, 12:09 AM
Keiko:YYZ is the ID code for the Toronto Airport-I've seen them 5 times and they never disappoint.

Keiko
04-30-2008, 12:32 AM
Keiko:YYZ is the ID code for the Toronto Airport-I've seen them 5 times and they never disappoint.
daboyz...Given the opportunity I'd love to see Rush again.

steveinaz
04-30-2008, 11:38 AM
Hemispheres is an outstanding album that never got much respect. It's one of my favorites. I prefer the old school Rush--they lost me at "Power Windows"

pmckeealaska
04-30-2008, 11:45 AM
I have been a Rush fanatic for many years, but have not really liked the last few albums they made, until this latest one. Snakes and Arrows is the best album they have made in a long time. The only album from the 90's I really liked was Counterparts. I'm always happy when they come out with a new album, as it is an excuse to tour, which is how Rush really needs to be appreciated, but this tour I was actually looking forward to hearing the new songs live. I was not dissapointed.

shadowofnight
04-30-2008, 11:49 AM
Hemispheres is an outstanding album that never got much respect. It's one of my favorites. I prefer the old school Rush--they lost me at "Power Windows"

Old school Rush fan as well....even though I would never give up the chance to see them live again...studio albums lost me after Signals.

steveinaz
04-30-2008, 12:03 PM
I have been a Rush fanatic for many years, but have not really liked the last few albums they made, until this latest one. Snakes and Arrows is the best album they have made in a long time. The only album from the 90's I really liked was Counterparts. I'm always happy when they come out with a new album, as it is an excuse to tour, which is how Rush really needs to be appreciated, but this tour I was actually looking forward to hearing the new songs live. I was not dissapointed.

I like Snakes & Arrows as well. More of a classic Rush sound.

nspindel
04-30-2008, 12:42 PM
daboyz...Given the opportunity I'd love to see Rush again.

They just toured last year. I've seen them a few times over the last few years. Still good as ever. Alex Lifeson has put on a few pounds though!

Keiko
04-30-2008, 01:50 PM
Hemispheres is an outstanding album that never got much respect. It's one of my favorites. I prefer the old school Rush--they lost me at "Power Windows"
That was a good album Steve. Hemeispheres was the follow up tune to Cygnus X-1 on the Farewell to Kings LP. Rush is an excellent progressive rock band and they still kick out some decent tunes, but their earlier material is when the band really shined. Not only is Neil Peart an amazing drummer, the man is a poet as well. My favorite albums also include 2112, Caress of Steel, Permanent Waves, Fly by Night and Signals. I hope these will become available on SACD some day soon.

Libertyc
05-02-2008, 12:30 AM
Oh Yeah...I can't wait to play my Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs LP of the Rush Permanent Waves album!

Joe do you hear me????

treitz3
05-08-2008, 07:54 PM
Man, what a night and day difference between the recording quality of "Moving Pictures" -vs- the remastered "Exit Stage Left". So much for using that as one of the ways to test my rig. :rolleyes: The sound is ancient compared to most of today's recordings. You fellas were correct in that it does have the drum solo that I was looking for. Neil seemed to be real tight that night and that rendition is by far my favorite.

Another ancient recording by Rush was "Different Stages" LIVE. The post I had made on this got wiped out with the forum last week, but in a nutshell, I completely wasted my money on that one. No fidelity, echo on the bass and the crowd/music seems as if it's covered by two or three tarps. I don't know what the sound engineers were thinking on that one. They must have mixed it on a Bose rig whilst on the 'ludes or some ****. Good tunes, but daggum, you have to listen to it at low volumes in order to enjoy it. Otherwise it just sounds like a Romper Room recording, if you could imagine what that would sound like.

Went out and got Rush "Gold" as well. This one is recorded pretty good. Not quite up to par with "Moving Pictures" but definitely nothing like the other two recordings. So, I have gotten my fill of Rush for a while. If any of you are Rush fans and you don't have the two well recorded albums, you owe it to yourself to go get these two albums. Screw the other two unless you just like the particular concert and plan to listen to them in the car as they are definitely not worthy of a home rig.

TNRabbit
06-11-2008, 06:45 AM
Tom, I listened to my gold MoFi CD of Moving Pictures last night; I have to say it can't compare to today's recording techniques. It did have some pretty low bass in it, but overall it just came off as very compressed with little in the way of dynamic range (I guess I'm spoiled...!).

obieone
06-14-2008, 06:38 AM
IMHO, they should release, Fly By Night, Caress of Steel, 2112, A Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres, and Moving Pictures on multi ch. SACD!!!:mad::mad:
Everything after that, I don't care about. Just didn't like the direction they went in. Too...neutral to me.

fireshoes
07-08-2008, 10:25 AM
Hey there, Rush fans! On the video game Rock Band this week, they released a new version of Working Man that has never been released in any format before. They are calling it the Vault Edition, and it was recorded during the same session as the version that wound up on the cd. The original master of the cd version wasn't available for the video game, so a few months ago a cover was recorded for the game. Then the guys at Harmonix were able to get their hands on this! (the guitar solo is a little choppy in spots because the person playing the game misses a few notes)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QAKhEzdSYPI&18

Fongolio
07-08-2008, 07:10 PM
+1 to what obieone said.

DaveMuell
07-08-2008, 09:27 PM
+1 to what obieone said.

+2 or +3 to that.

Libertyc
07-12-2008, 12:50 AM
Just picked up a copy of Moving Pictures remastered CD at the local Shoprite supermarket. So far I have (or had) the 8-track, LP, red book CD, and now the remaster.
It sounds a little hot and (or loud) to me. Actually the red book version was recorded very well, and while I didn't do an A/B test yet, I think I could have saved the $6.98 :)

Libertyc
07-12-2008, 12:53 AM
BTW - The first album "RUSH" with the cut working man is awesome, but not recorded very well.
AND that is not Neil playing the drums.

treitz3
07-12-2008, 01:04 AM
So which album is Rush's best [In your opinion] recorded album....what format and recording?

In my rig I liked this album. Many surprises. Talk to me.

Libertyc
07-12-2008, 01:13 AM
I'm not really sure. I have a MFSL LP of Permanent waves which I have not played yet (TT almost ready...)
Moving Pictures was recorded very well, but I'm still not sure if the remaster is better or not.
I think Power Windows was a DDD cd and sounds harsh.
I think 2112 and Hemispheres were recorded very well.

Erik Tracy
07-13-2008, 05:14 PM
I'm not really sure. I have a MFSL LP of Permanent waves which I have not played yet (TT almost ready...)
Moving Pictures was recorded very well, but I'm still not sure if the remaster is better or not.
I think Power Windows was a DDD cd and sounds harsh.
I think 2112 and Hemispheres were recorded very well.

This is one of those things where feedback is welcome info.

I'm a Sabbath fan - first loves and all ;)

I did a comparison of their release Sabbath Bloody Sabbath on my rig:
LP, CD, and remastered CD.

The remastered CD was 'hot' - everything dialed up and smashed to the limit wall. The 'regular' CD was clean but somewhat dull. My LP has seen alot of mileage so the surface noise and crackles are noticable.

I personally thought the remastered CD was more 'fatiguing' than the regular CD and LP - not sure why fans rave about remastered CDs.

Oddly, I found the LP to be the most enjoyable - the only downside is that even when running an external preamp with high gain, it couldn't match levels with the CD or remastered CD, so I couldn't get 'equity' in volume for accurate comparisons and had to drive my AVR near to its limits +5db to get that "wall of sound" necessary for the true metal experience.

Every title will be different - so the more feedback the better for the rest of us to make some informed choices.

I've got Moving Pictures on CD - haven't listened to that one for awhile - think I'll give it a fresh spin and listen to on my new rig.... enjoy the sonic goodness!! :D

obieone
07-13-2008, 08:53 PM
Hmmmmm. Best of Rush.......2112 or Hemispheres. Format is irrelevent to me. Music/ lyrics are what turns me on, so to speak. Farewell to Kings also good.

SCompRacer
07-13-2008, 09:56 PM
I only have three Rush LP's. A couple more are MIA. What's in your dead wax? It is said that all Rush LP's with GK (Gilbert Kong) in the dead wax sound great. Bob Ludwig mastered Moving Pictures initially on vinyl and it sounds good. Masterdisk & the initials RL appear in the dead wax. He also did Exit ... Stage Left and Signals. He is credited in the liner notes of Grace Under Pressure, but I read that RL does not appear in the dead wax of any of those LP's.

I read some of the UK stuff was iffy, but never had any to compare to. The Holland and Japenese pressings are suppose to be better/best. I should have a Holland pressing of Moving Pictures in a week or so. Working on getting a Japenese pressing.


Everyone has their Rush favorites. Here is a portion of what Wikipedia lists, with the RIAA certified multi's in bold.

Studio

Album information
Rush
Released: March 1974
Chart Position: #105 (US)
RIAA Certification: Gold
Worldwide sales: N/A
Singles: "Finding My Way", "In the Mood"

Fly by Night
Released: February 1975
Chart Position: #148 (US)
RIAA Certification: Platinum
Worldwide sales: 1,800,000 +
Singles: "Fly by Night", "Making Memories"

Caress of Steel
Released: September 1975
Chart Position: #113 (US)
RIAA Certification: Gold
Worldwide sales: N/A
Singles: "The Necromancer: Return of the Prince", "Lakeside Park"

2112
Released: April 1976
Chart Position: #61 (US), #1 (Canada)
RIAA Certification: 3x Platinum
Worldwide sales: 4,300,000 +
Singles: "The Twilight Zone", "2112: Overture/The Temples of Syrinx", "A Passage to Bangkok"

A Farewell to Kings
Released: September 1977
Chart Position: #33 (US), #2 (Canada), #22 (UK)
RIAA Certification: Platinum
Worldwide sales: 1,700,000 +
Singles: "Closer to the Heart", "Cinderella Man"

Hemispheres
Released: October 1978
Chart Position: #47 (US), #4 (Canada), #14 (UK)
RIAA Certification: Platinum
Worldwide sales: 1,900,000 +
Singles: "The Trees", "Circumstances"

Permanent Waves
Released: January 1980
Chart Position: #4 (US), #1 (Canada), #3 (UK)
RIAA Certification: Platinum
Worldwide sales: 2,300,000 +
Singles: "The Spirit of Radio", "Freewill", "Entre Nous"

Moving Pictures
Released: January 1981
Chart Position: #3 (US), #1 (Canada), #3 (UK)
RIAA Certification: 4x Platinum
Worldwide sales: 6,700,000 +
Singles: "Tom Sawyer", "Limelight", "Vital Signs"

Signals
Released: September 1982
Chart Position: #10 (US), #3 (Canada), #3 (UK)
RIAA Certification: Platinum
Worldwide sales: 2,300,000 +
Singles: "New World Man", "Subdivisions", "The Analog Kid", "The Weapon (Part II of "Fear")", "Countdown"

Grace Under Pressure
Released: April 1984
Chart Position: #10 (US), #1 (Canada), #5 (UK)
RIAA Certification: Platinum
Worldwide sales: 1,700,000 +
Singles: "Distant Early Warning", "The Body Electric", "Red Sector A", "Afterimage"

Power Windows
Released: October 1985
Chart Position: #10 (US), #2 (Canada), #9 (UK)
RIAA Certification: Platinum
Worldwide sales: 1,300,000 +
Singles: "The Big Money", "Territories", "Mystic Rhythms", "Manhattan Project", "Marathon"

Hold Your Fire
Released: September 1987
Chart Position: #13 (US), #9 (Canada), #10 (UK)
RIAA Certification: Gold
Worldwide sales: 1,300,000 +
Singles: "Time Stand Still", "Force Ten", "Prime Mover", "Lock and Key"

Presto
Released: November 1989
Chart Position: #16 (US), #11 (Canada), #27 (UK)
RIAA Certification: Gold
Worldwide sales: 1,100,000 +
Singles: "Show Don't Tell", "The Pass", "Superconductor",|-

Roll the Bones
Released: September 1991
Chart Position: #3 (US), #1 (Canada), #10 (UK)
RIAA Certification: Platinum
Worldwide sales: 2,000,000 +
Singles: "Dreamline", "Roll the Bones", "Where's My Thing?", "Ghost of a Chance", "Bravado"

Counterparts
Released: October 1993
Chart Position: #2 (US), #1 (Canada), #14 (UK)
RIAA Certification: Platinum
Worldwide sales: 1,300,000 +
Singles: "Stick It Out", "Nobody's Hero", "Cold Fire", "Animate", "Double Agent"

Test for Echo
Released: September 1996
Chart Position: #5 (US), #1 (Canada), #25 (UK)
RIAA Certification: Gold
Worldwide sales: 1,000,000 +
Singles: "Test for Echo", "Half the World", "Driven", "Virtuality", "Resist"

Vapor Trails
Released: May 2002
Chart Position: #6 (US), #3 (Canada). #38 (UK)
US Sales: 350,000
Worldwide sales: N/A
Note:
Singles: "Secret Touch", "One Little Victory", "Sweet Miracle"

Feedback
Released: June 2004
Chart Position: #19 (US), #5 (Canada)
RIAA Certification: None
Worldwide sales: N/A
Singles: "Summertime Blues"

Snakes & Arrows
Released: May 2007
Chart Position:#3 (US), #3 (Canada), #13 (UK)
US Sales: 250,000 (source:Billboard) [1]
Worldwide sales:
Note:
Singles: "Far Cry","Spindrift", "The Larger Bowl"

The only Compilation to go multi Platinum.

Chronicles
Released: September 1990
Chart Position: #51 (US), #5 (Canada), #42 (UK)
RIAA Certification: 2x Platinum
Worldwide sales: 4,300,000 +
Note: Greatest Hits compilation

Two Live albums went Platinum.

Album information
All the World's a Stage
Released: September 1976
Chart Position: #40 (US), #7 (Canada),
RIAA Certification: Platinum
Worldwide sales: 1,700,000 +
Singles: "Fly by Night" (live)

Exit...Stage Left
Released: October 1981
Chart Position: #10 (US), #4 (Canada), #6 (UK)
RIAA Certification: Platinum
Worldwide sales: 1,900,000 +
Singles: "Tom Sawyer" (live), "Closer to the Heart" (live)

pmckeealaska
07-14-2008, 12:19 PM
My favorite Rush albums (in no particular order) are:

2112
Hemispheres
Permanent Waves
Moving Pictures
Power Windows
Counterparts
Snakes and Arrows

I could listen to any of their albums for the most part, though I have never been a huge fan of the first album or Caress of Steel.

ND13
07-14-2008, 12:25 PM
RUSH ROCKS!!! One of the top 3 or 4 concerts I've attended. To see Geddy plucking his bass with his right hand, left hand on the keyboard, right foot on bass pedals and singing all at once....AMAZING to say the least. Peart is the best "percussionist", period. Drummer honor still goes to John Bonham.

steveinaz
07-14-2008, 02:43 PM
Back when I was teaching Neil how to play the drums, I told him to avoid lengthy, boring solo's.

Fongolio
07-14-2008, 09:03 PM
Way to go stevinaz!! And I told him that his drum kit on a turntable would be the ultimate in cool!! By the way IMHO Moving Pictures was the best. George Grand has a vinyl copy in the mail for me and I'm almost peeing myself in anticipation.

obieone
07-14-2008, 11:21 PM
Back when I was teaching Neil how to play the drums, I told him to avoid lengthy, boring solo's.

Yes, and we're all very thankful that he DIDN'T listen!:D

Keiko
07-15-2008, 10:22 AM
Rush is in my Top 5 of all time, although I prefer their earlier stuff compared to what they put out now. Still good, but classic Rush kicks ass. Just my opinion of course.

steveinaz
07-15-2008, 12:50 PM
Like Yes, Zepplin, and others...Rush is timeless.

Keiko
07-15-2008, 12:57 PM
Like Yes, Zepplin, and others...Rush is timeless.
In alphabetical order, my top 5:

Beatles

Led Zeppelin

Pink Floyd

Rush

Queen

:)

SCompRacer
07-16-2008, 04:01 PM
I am very happy with my Holland pressing of Moving Pictures. Look for some Moving Pictures LP Karma.