View Full Version : Bought a beautiful pair of 1.2TL's (Immaculate)
deep bass
05-10-2008, 10:35 PM
Problems!
Lasareath
05-10-2008, 10:55 PM
Where's the pictures?, Don't tease us like this!
schwarcw
05-11-2008, 12:24 AM
Congratulations!! You'll love those big boys. Tell us about your system and your impressions of the big SDA's. Pictures are always nice. Congrats again!:)
deep bass
05-11-2008, 12:56 AM
Technical difficulties will remove my posts, until things are worked out! Thanks again!
Lasareath
05-11-2008, 01:00 AM
Technical difficulties will remove my posts, until things are worked out! Thanks again!
At least they look mint!
Get ready for (8) new tweeters & redoing those crossovers!
Deadof_knight
05-11-2008, 01:06 AM
Hey Las can you send me some of your quality pics on your new wood on your speaks
deadof_knight@hotmail.com
F1nut
05-11-2008, 03:18 AM
Great thread. :rolleyes:
mrbigbluelight
05-11-2008, 05:43 AM
I'm just thankful that I woke up early or else I might have missed something !
deep bass
05-11-2008, 06:49 PM
Me too, what a good day to be alive!
F1nut
05-11-2008, 06:59 PM
Or not.
Boywonder
05-12-2008, 12:44 PM
It just doesn't get any better than this!:D
deep bass
05-12-2008, 02:07 PM
Oh but it does! Sorry if i am am creating any hype it was not my intention. I will have this fixed up within a week or so!
steveinaz
05-12-2008, 02:10 PM
schweet.
Lasareath
05-12-2008, 02:26 PM
Technical difficulties will remove my posts, until things are worked out! Thanks again!
What are the Technical difficulties?
What are the Technical difficulties?
You want the gear but your spouse says, "NO".
deep bass
05-13-2008, 03:31 PM
Ok, boys here is the problem... I bought the speakers on the Canadian Ebay! My seller first claimed that he felt that Ebay misrepresented his item. (i spoke to Ebay and they said they just post what the sellers asks for them to post and they didn't make any such mistake). Ok.... Now he claims that he forgot to select the ship to destination to the UNITED STATES AS WELL AS CANADA! He feels that if he recieved more hits he would have received more money! The auction was just in CANADA! Once the auction ended he got pissed off once he realized that other speakers sold in the UNITED STATES for more money (he is pouting over sour milk) He is supposed to be mature instead hes getting really pushy and pissed off at me. That is once he saw how much these went for
http://cgi.ebay.com/POLK-AUDIO-SDA-SRS-1-2TL_W0QQitemZ130216677777QQihZ003QQcategoryZ14993Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
He set the minimum bid for the item and is trying to get out of this. Consequently i feel that a minimum price is a price point that the seller is happy with receiving and any amount over that is an added benefit. This is not fair and is unacceptable. I have reported the issue and i am not in any way at fault. He is claiming arbitrage now that he thinks i will turn around and sell the speakers for more money here in the U.S. When in fact his intention as he said is that he wants me to release him from this (which i denied the mutual end sale agreement). So that he can go an re-list the speakers on Ebay and make more money
P.S this is not my intention i am a speaker enthusiasts and i love music. I didn't realize this bulls**t would happen!
This is long and i would appreciate your thoughts and opinions cause i need help!
Sincerely,
-Deepbass (Polk Enthusiast)
deep bass
05-13-2008, 03:36 PM
P.S dbnh i don't have a spouse. Side note: I am not trying to be a ball buster, I just feel that I rightfully won the auction and would like the seller to fulfill his dutiable bound obligation. I am not a wealthy man made of tons of money. In fact I am a hard working college student who has worked hard for what I have. Who do you guys side with THOUGHTS, COMMENTS? Questions i am glad to answer!
ohskigod
05-13-2008, 04:17 PM
dude, you won for 3 grand and he thought he could have got more money??!!?? is this guy out of his tree?
Ricardo
05-13-2008, 04:31 PM
I think he won these
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Polk-Audio-SDA-SRS-1-2TL_W0QQitemZ160236789944QQihZ006QQcategoryZ14993Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
But I might be wrong.....I always have trouble reading threads that are well written and flow in an orderly manner :rolleyes:
I don't think there's a lot you can do, other than leave the appropriate feedback. Of course this could mean a negative for you also. Did you pay for them already? You could start a claim via Paypal, but you would just get your money back.
Ain't ebay a bitch?
deep bass
05-13-2008, 04:58 PM
Ricardo is right! That is my ad that i won. Does anyone feel that i am wrong? These are now almost 20 years of age. (He is the 3rd owner and is sulking that he didnt get more... then why didnt he list them for more on his min bid? He's not being fair or honest with himself. Do you think this was out of line. if 133 people viewed the item wouldnt they have wanted them too? If everyone could call back there auctions and re-list there would be no such thing as an ebay?
Lasareath
05-13-2008, 05:38 PM
The going rate is $600 to $3050 depending on location, condition & how many people want them in that location.
If you were made out of money I think you get them by suing him. An eBay auction is a binding contract and he has to fulfill his end.
But, do you have the desire to Hire a lawyer?
I know what I would do if he ignored me, I would wait till his next auction is almost over and bid 5 grand and then when you win and he emails you I'd tell him to go Frack off!! LOL
candyliquor35m
05-13-2008, 05:40 PM
There's nothing you can do if you let ebay know and they don't have a solution. Plenty of buyers don't pay after they win a auction and this is same thing only with the seller refusing to complete the transaction. Leave the seller negative feedback and snipe them for $999 when he relists them :p
F1nut
05-13-2008, 06:25 PM
He entered into a legally binding contract. If you wanted to, you could hire a lawyer to sue him for breach of contract. Another option would be to show up at his door with a ball peen hammer in hand.
Edit: Just read his ad and the story he is giving you about including the USA is BS. He clearly states, twice....
Shipping costs: Pickup only - see item description for details
Ships to: Will arrange for local pickup only (no shipping).
I would send him a certified letter stating that if he does not complete the sale, you will sue him for breach of contract, including all attorney fees and court costs. That should get his attention as he will lose in a court of law, Guaranteed!
BrettT1
05-13-2008, 07:05 PM
I agree with F1. Have an attorney send him a nasty letter. Just a letter shouldn't cost you much. If that doesn't work, go the ballpeen route.
I hate asswipes like him.... what a punk.:mad:
Poee7R
05-13-2008, 07:33 PM
Take his ass to Judge Judy, she'll straighten em out. :D
Dave
Neskahi
05-13-2008, 07:44 PM
Cant get the link to work but FWI, there is some 1.2TL's in Rochester NY that were listed
just yesterday for a mere $1000.00.
Lasareath
05-13-2008, 08:26 PM
Cant get the link to work but FWI, there is some 1.2TL's in Rochester NY that were listed
just yesterday for a mere $1000.00.
Listed where?
heiney9
05-13-2008, 08:36 PM
Your purchase is a binding contract. It is no way your fault if he doesn't educate himself on 1) how e-bay works 2) what an item is worth. DO NOT let him off the hook.
Work with E-bay for a resolution and the next step is to send him a demand letter stating that a binding contract was entered by both parties and you demand he follow through with his end; if not you'll see him in small claims court which you don't need a lawyer for and the fees are minimal.
If you go on Judge Judy she'll certainly straighten is ass out. I've seen a few cases dealing with e-bay on JJ and you certainly have a soild solid case. :p
H9
Lasareath
05-13-2008, 08:40 PM
Where would he sue the seller?, where the seller lives or where he lives?
The seller is 18 hours away by car.
Neskahi
05-13-2008, 08:51 PM
oops. Craigslist
herbhead
05-13-2008, 08:56 PM
Hi All,
Below is the email I received from eBay regarding the reduced page view count. The auction # 160236789944 received a count of 133 page views; we all know the average is near 1000. Because I mounted the auction on eBay.ca and marked them as Pick Only (just like almost everyone else) most U.S. buyers did not 'see' my auction. I'm a little too pissed at the moment to go into this further having only just learned this boy has been herding you guys and trashing me on this forum. But I went through the same motions as you would at eBay and got almost 10th the page views; now is that fair to me and/or you?
And thank you very much for all this deepbass10hz.
Dear eBay Customer,
Thank you for writing to eBay. My name is Cindy and I appreciate the chance to assist you with your question.
I understand you are upset because your item received less views than other similar items. I'd like to clarify that whether an item is searchable on a specific site depends on the "ship to" location. If you specify that you'll only ship an item to Canada, the item will be searchable on eBay.ca site only. If you specify that you'll ship the item to US and Canada, it will be searchable on both eBay.ca and eBay.com sites.
With that being said, for your future reference, if you'd like an item to be searchable on both eBay.ca site and eBay.com site, but only offer local pick up, I'd suggest you to do the following:
1. On the Sell Your Item form, click on 'add or remove options' in the 'Give buyers shipping details' section, and make sure the box for 'International shipping' is checked.
2. Select 'Flat rate' for both demostic and international shipping and leave the amount blank.
3. Under internationl shipping, select 'will ship to Canada and the following' and then check off 'United State'.
This way, on the listing page, the shipping section will show "Check item description and payment instructions or contact seller for details." You can specify that this item is for local pick up only in the item description. This way, your item will also be searchable on eBay.com site.
I hope I was able to assist you today. If you would like further assistance please feel free to reply back to this email. We will be happy to address your questions and concerns.
Kind Regards,
Cindy C.
eBay Customer Support
___________________
heiney9
05-13-2008, 09:08 PM
Where would he sue the seller?, where the seller lives or where he lives?
The seller is 18 hours away by car.
He'd have to do some research. I'd say since the seller is the defendant, the plaintiff (buyer) could file right in his jurisdiction and then the burden is on the defendant to show up and defend his case.
If he's a no show then he is most likely in default and a judgment will be made w/o him and if it's in the plaintiff's favor then that judgment can attach to physical property as well as being a matter of public record.
Disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer and I don't play one on TV.
F1nut
05-13-2008, 09:11 PM
None of that matters. You listed the ad, it's your responsibility to do it correctly. You have an legal obligation to sell the speakers to the buyer as the auction has closed and he won the auction. NOTHING else matters at this point.
Even eBay is telling you this auction is a done deal. They state, "With that being said, for your future reference", that means the next time you list something, not that you get a do over on this one.
Give the man his speakers and stop crying about your mistake.
heiney9
05-13-2008, 09:12 PM
Hi All,
Below is the email I received from eBay regarding the reduced page view count. The auction # 160236789944 received a count of 133 page views; we all know the average is near 1000. Because I mounted the auction on eBay.ca and marked them as Pick Only (just like almost everyone else) most U.S. buyers did not 'see' my auction. I'm a little too pissed at the moment to go into this further having only just learned this boy has been herding you guys and trashing me on this forum. But I went through the same motions as you would at eBay and got almost 10th the page views; now is that fair to me and/or you?
And thank you very much for all this deepbass10hz.
Dear eBay Customer,
Thank you for writing to eBay. My name is Cindy and I appreciate the chance to assist you with your question.
I understand you are upset because your item received less views than other similar items. I'd like to clarify that whether an item is searchable on a specific site depends on the "ship to" location. If you specify that you'll only ship an item to Canada, the item will be searchable on eBay.ca site only. If you specify that you'll ship the item to US and Canada, it will be searchable on both eBay.ca and eBay.com sites.
With that being said, for your future reference, if you'd like an item to be searchable on both eBay.ca site and eBay.com site, but only offer local pick up, I'd suggest you to do the following:
1. On the Sell Your Item form, click on 'add or remove options' in the 'Give buyers shipping details' section, and make sure the box for 'International shipping' is checked.
2. Select 'Flat rate' for both demostic and international shipping and leave the amount blank.
3. Under internationl shipping, select 'will ship to Canada and the following' and then check off 'United State'.
This way, on the listing page, the shipping section will show "Check item description and payment instructions or contact seller for details." You can specify that this item is for local pick up only in the item description. This way, your item will also be searchable on eBay.com site.
I hope I was able to assist you today. If you would like further assistance please feel free to reply back to this email. We will be happy to address your questions and concerns.
Kind Regards,
Cindy C.
eBay Customer Support
___________________
Ignorance of how e-bay works is NOT an excuse to default on a binding contract. Man up, fulfill YOUR obligation, which was completely within YOUR control, and chalk it up as a learning lesson. Why should the buyer have to suffer for your ignorance and incompetence? Why should e-bay have to get involved when the rules, instructions and values are easily understood if one take the time to investigate.
The buyer has no reason to suffer in this transaction.
H9
F1nut
05-13-2008, 09:19 PM
Another thought....there is no guarantee of how many people will view any given auction and even less of a guarantee of how much money an item will sell for. You don't have a legal leg to stand on in a court of law or here under Club Polk law.
heiney9
05-13-2008, 09:23 PM
Tringtrang,
You have been on e-bay since 2005 and have a feedback of 37; surely you aren't new to the whole e-bay thing. The situation is unfortunate in that you did something unintentional by posting incorrectly, but you have to honor the contract.
Like I stated ignorance is not an excuse when dealing with e-bay. Rules, how to's and values of prior sales is readily available on the internet. He won your speakers fair and square and he has a right to expect you to follow through as there was no "hanky panky" here.
treitz3
05-13-2008, 09:28 PM
Your problem is not his problem. Grow up and do the right thing.
If you can't figure out Flea-Bay's add posting, then you need not be selling. You put it up for auction...he won. Quit bitching. End of story.
In fact, I'm just gonna blurt it out. You sir, are part of Flea-Prey's problems. It's folks like you that make We-Pay a bad experience. What a shame. Need a lollipop?
F1nut
05-13-2008, 09:29 PM
Another nail in the, oops I didn't list the shipping correctly, coffin......
These things are huge and weigh a lot. I prefer to sell them on a local pickup basis. Shipping them would be a nightmare. You would be better off driving for 15 hours to pick them up rather than pay for crating and shipping. Contact me before bidding if you have any questions about possible shipping ideas that you may have.
BTW, I printed out a copy of the auction just in case deep bass hasn't done so and something odd were to happen to the listing.
dorokusai
05-13-2008, 09:39 PM
I'd bet you won't be seeing those speakers and a letter from a lawyer isn't going to do anything. The most that might happen, if you complain thru Safe Harbor, is an account suspension. He'll just post them again, under another account name. He messed up, I agree but that's the way it goes.
I'd just move on and look for another pair.
Neskahi
05-13-2008, 09:49 PM
Not taking a stance here but looking at herbheads older post, it seems he's upgraded
the 1.2TL's with "Mundorf" caps. Whew!!! Those are higher than a cats ass. Thats gotta be
a grand right there.
Lasareath
05-13-2008, 09:52 PM
Not taking a stance here but looking at herbheads older post, it seems he's upgraded
the 1.2TL's with "Mundorf" caps. Whew!!! Those are higher than a cats ass. Thats gotta be
a grand right there.
Did he?, Why does he not mention it in the auction?
Believe me If I sell mine on ebay I will have 100 photos of all the work I did.
heiney9
05-13-2008, 09:55 PM
Not taking a stance here but looking at herbheads older post, it seems he's upgraded
the 1.2TL's with "Mundorf" caps. Whew!!! Those are higher than a cats ass. Thats gotta be
a grand right there.
Did he follow through on the upgrade?
Neskahi
05-13-2008, 10:21 PM
http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55276
Neskahi
05-13-2008, 10:23 PM
Damit. Wrong thread.
Lasareath
05-13-2008, 10:29 PM
Damit. Wrong thread.
LOL, those are mine ;)
herbhead
05-13-2008, 10:50 PM
Hi there,
Thanks for all your support.
Let's hope that you never find yourself in my situation.
It's a sad world that we live in that people group together with a heard mentality to piss on someone that didn't even make a mistake but was shistered by the system he used to try to sell something in the most honest and fair way he knew how. Why don't you think about the fact that I did nothing different than you would have if you had posted on eBay.com? eBay is not a legal system, it is a corporation with an auction engine and it is not perfect. It is filled with holes and nuances; one of which I fell into. BTW, why did I get a Seller fee refund if I didn't have a case to make?
I can estimate that this would go on and on forever till I was blue in the face and that explaining this to you ‘all’ is more than an uphill battle. But imagine that you put your prized Polk SDA SRS 1.2 TL speakers on eBay only to find that some nuance cost you 90% of the potential market place and we will see how quickly you come around to my side of this ‘issue’. As far as eBay is concerned the matter is over. However, unfortunately the damage is done and I can see that you ‘all’ just jumped off that cliff one by one to bash the bashed.
Caught in a struggle,
Goodness, i've tried,
You're such a puzzle,
I guess, God bless and goodbye…
ViperZ
05-13-2008, 11:19 PM
herbhead, as many people have pointed out,
YOU are the one who is wrong.
YOU had several days to look at the people counter.
YOU set the minimum bid (why would you set one if you didn't feel that it was acceptable anyway?).
YOU entered into a binding contract.
Read the rules before posting! Man up and sell the speakers!
YOU are one of those people who make US, Canadians, look bad to Americans.
And you know what? We are not sheep or monkeys to call us a heard. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and whether you like it or not, majority believes that you are wrong.
deep bass
05-13-2008, 11:22 PM
I have tried and tried since saturday i asked the questions and have gotten no where. I dont think this is worth my efforts or time anymore...
DarqueKnight
05-13-2008, 11:26 PM
But imagine that you put your prized Polk SDA SRS 1.2 TL speakers on eBay only to find that some nuance cost you 90% of the potential market place and we will see how quickly you come around to my side of this ‘issue’.
Nuance? What nuance? Did you read the ad after you wrote and posted it or were you high on herb?
Let me make sure I understand your position:
1. You feel slighted because eBay did not advertise your speakers on the US eBay listings? Why would they? You said you were in Canada and LOCAL PICK UP ONLY.
2. You actually had some reasonable expectation that someone in the US was going to want to pay freight on two 180 pound, coffin sized speakers from CANADA even after your ad specifically said NO SHIPPING? For future reference, one of the biggest deterrents to sales of the large SDA's among US buyers and sellers is the packing and shipping charges and the risk of shipping damage.
Based on 1 and 2 above, I think your choice of a screen name, "herbhead", is an appropriate one.
Good luck with your sale. I'm 99% certain of where the sales proceeds will be going.
-----------------------------
Note to deep bass: Move on. Another pair will come along, preferably from a seller whose head is not under the influence of "herb". Herbhead is actually doing you a big favor. The grief of dealing with this kind of individual is not worth it even if he were giving the speakers away.
treitz3
05-13-2008, 11:47 PM
It amazes me that a$$holes like this exist. You sir, suck donkey di(k.
Place your whine to the nearest slumlord. You and it belong in the same company. Still need that lollipop? You obviously need something to suck on.......
Good luck EVER selling things here again................
treitz3
05-13-2008, 11:51 PM
Let's hope that you never find yourself in my situation.
It's a sad world that we live in that people group together with a heard mentality to piss on someone that didn't even make a mistake.........
Care to chat about your "non" mistake? We are here to listen. All of us. Really.
Do talk, please.
dorokusai
05-14-2008, 12:00 AM
Why do I think that he'll post again....even tho' he said goodbye?
DeepBass - This sucks but SDA's are all over the place....it won't be the last pair.
deep bass
05-14-2008, 12:21 AM
Again i am at a loss of words. I thought things were looking up, but i guess not!
"If you neg me for this, you will reduce my chance for a successful re-listed auction and cost me the listing fee and selling fee on this auction. I will neg you back, then you will likely add a comment and I will too. How does that make you feel?" This makes me quite disturbed to tell you the truth. I cannot believe i even got involved with this!This is unbelievable and would like for you all to see the light of the situation that i face.
deep bass
05-14-2008, 12:25 AM
Citizens are faced with choices and decisions which demand maturity, knowledge and a range of information which they do not and cannot have. he is caught between his desire (to know and decide) and his inability which he refuses to accept!
treitz3
05-14-2008, 12:40 AM
What a gentleman. So willing to do the right thing. I'm so glad that Flea-Pay protects against threats like this. :rolleyes:
Karma. It will come back to bite you. Maybe not now, but for the rest of your life. Enjoy the payback. It'll remind you more often than you know.
shadowofnight
05-14-2008, 12:40 AM
You know that old saying dont piss off the cook until AFTER you get your food....even if deep somehow gets them for his 1,500 bucks, you never know what a disgruntled seller is going to do to those damn things before deep gets his hands on them.
We know this ebay sellers name AND the serial numbers of the 2 speakers...and since polk forum members along with the other audio forums we belong to snatch up the majority of these in the USA .....we could in many ways make it really difficult to resell those .
After all the bullshit deep has already gone through, I would have a really hard time wanting those anymore from a pissed off seller.
I say link this thread in your negative feedback and keep your 1,500 bones.
shadowofnight
05-14-2008, 12:42 AM
Again i am at a loss of words. I thought things were looking up, but i guess not!
"If you neg me for this, you will reduce my chance for a successful re-listed auction and cost me the listing fee and selling fee on this auction. I will neg you back, then you will likely add a comment and I will too. How does that make you feel?" This makes me quite disturbed to tell you the truth. I cannot believe i even got involved with this!This is unbelievable and would like for you all to see the light of the situation that i face.
There ya go.....link this thread in your negative feedback and who do you think the peeps will think is the prick.
treitz3
05-14-2008, 12:48 AM
"If you neg me for this, you will reduce my chance for a successful re-listed auction and cost me the listing fee and selling fee on this auction. I will neg you back, then you will likely add a comment and I will too. How does that make you feel?"
Wow. That's entertaining and worthy of a discussion on "Iamanidiot.com"
The lollipop is still available. Do you have a choice you prefer for flavor? I have a few I could recommend......
Lasareath
05-14-2008, 12:52 AM
Tell the seller to give you $200 to walk away from the auction!
heiney9
05-14-2008, 01:08 AM
This is why I hate the e-bay feedback system. A disgruntled party can basically lie and put up false information or do the blackmail thing like this prick is doing. At first I thought walk away and give some negative feedback. He's certainly gotten some in the past.
But now since he's basically threatened to blackmail you I say stay on it with e-bay and I hope to god you used a credit card. Send those mofo's after him and he can't wriggle out of it.
DarqueKnight
05-14-2008, 01:10 AM
"If you neg me for this, you will reduce my chance for a successful re-listed auction and cost me the listing fee and selling fee on this auction. I will neg you back, then you will likely add a comment and I will too. How does that make you feel?"
Actually, for me, it would be worth it. But then, I'd rather get my ass kicked for doing right than for doing wrong, plus I wouldn't have to worry about all the negative karma that's gonna come due.;)
BSUfbfan
05-14-2008, 01:33 AM
Deep Bass,
Call ebay and state that Dikhead was in default on the auction, and left you a negative feedback as retaliation... and see if they will remove it for you. The site states that feedback cannot be changed, but we all now that is BS.
janmike
05-14-2008, 01:38 AM
A promise is a promise. People that cannot live up to this should be... well you know. I feel for you DB.
F1nut
05-14-2008, 02:51 AM
Originally Posted by pothead
"If you neg me for this, you will reduce my chance for a successful re-listed auction and cost me the listing fee and selling fee on this auction. I will neg you back, then you will likely add a comment and I will too. How does that make you feel?"
Wow! That alone would make me have to sue his sorry a$$ excuse for a man.
shadowofnight
05-14-2008, 02:58 AM
Wow! That alone would make me have to sue his sorry a$$ excuse for a man.
How easy is it for a U.S. citizen to sue somebody in Canada ? Never really thought about it before now.
F1nut
05-14-2008, 03:53 AM
Doesn't matter to me. I'm bad, I'm international.
george daniel
05-14-2008, 07:36 AM
Mr. Herbhead,,do the right thing,,deepbass won the auction fairly,,he should not have to pay for your mistake.The negative Karma that will happen if you proceed on this path will not be worth it in the long run.The "flip" side of this is the good karma that will follow you when you do the right thing. Good luck to all involved--george
davidfmartin
05-14-2008, 09:31 AM
Hi there,
Thanks for all your support.
Let's hope that you never find yourself in my situation.
It's a sad world that we live in that people group together with a heard mentality to piss on someone
Dude,
Come to Denver and I will physically piss on your head! Holy crap you just sold a pair of 20+ year old speakers for 3050.00 and you are crying here? As someone else stated man up and let the kid come get his speakers.
amulford
05-14-2008, 09:36 AM
Where would he sue the seller?, where the seller lives or where he lives?
The seller is 18 hours away by car.
He would file suit at his location. That would help him as the seller would ignore the required appearance and he would win judgment by default. He could then take that judgement to the vicinage of the seller and apply for enforcement of the order. The US and Canada have reciprocal agreements which would allow this.
Understand the judgement will be for the value of the goods, not the goods themselves. He could also apply to vacate the judgement at any time.
The question is do you want them that bad. It's alot of bullshit. Just f#ck with him as much as you can and look for another set, IMHO. If you need help, I'd be glad to piss in his cornflakes on a regular basis for ya. POS...
ViperZ
05-14-2008, 09:55 AM
Again i am at a loss of words. I thought things were looking up, but i guess not!
"If you neg me for this, you will reduce my chance for a successful re-listed auction and cost me the listing fee and selling fee on this auction. I will neg you back, then you will likely add a comment and I will too. How does that make you feel?" This makes me quite disturbed to tell you the truth. I cannot believe i even got involved with this!This is unbelievable and would like for you all to see the light of the situation that i face.
You just need to simply forward THREATS like this to ebay, and EBAY WILL REMOVE HIS UNFAIR FEEDBACK. It happened before.
treitz3
05-14-2008, 12:04 PM
Hey Herbhead. I thought that this would be of interest to you, since it concerns you. The following is a post I have made on some other forums warning others of your ways. Do the right thing and I might consider removing the warning based upon your timing and cooperation. I urge others to copy and paste this post to the forums they hang on as well. Here's the post.
Here's another scumbag from Flea-prey. Held an auction to sell his speakers, someone won and now he's backing out not wanting to sell the speakers THREATENING negative feedback because he wasn't happy with the sales price....even though he set the minimum bid. For an in depth look, follow the thread link below.
Thread link...... http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67735
Flea-prey auction link.... http://tinyurl.com/6rykms
Again, this seller's user name is "tringtrang" on Flea-prey and his user name on Club Polk is "herbhead". He lives in Toronto, ON in Canada.
Exact words from the blackmailing seller.... "[B]If you neg me for this, you will reduce my chance for a successful re-listed auction and cost me the listing fee and selling fee on this auction. I will neg you back, then you will likely add a comment and I will too. How does that make you feel?"
heiney9
05-14-2008, 01:06 PM
Dude,
Come to Denver and I will physically piss on your head! Holy crap you just sold a pair of 20+ year old speakers for 3050.00 and you are crying here? As someone else stated man up and let the kid come get his speakers.
Slight correction as there would be no animosity (in his mind) had he sold them for $3050.00. The final bid was $1500.USD.
heiney9
05-14-2008, 01:12 PM
He would file suit at his location. That would help him as the seller would ignore the required appearance and he would win judgment by default. He could then take that judgement to the vicinage of the seller and apply for enforcement of the order. The US and Canada have reciprocal agreements which would allow this.
Understand the judgement will be for the value of the goods, not the goods themselves. He could also apply to vacate the judgement at any time.
The question is do you want them that bad. It's alot of bullshit. Just f#ck with him as much as you can and look for another set, IMHO. If you need help, I'd be glad to piss in his cornflakes on a regular basis for ya. POS...
Getting a judgment is all fine and dandy, but getting payment is another thing entirely, especially in a civil case. If this were a criminal case that would be entirely different.
A judgment typically attaches to property(usually real estate) and then the judgment is only recovered if the property is sold and there are enough proceeds to cover the judgment; ie; the judgment may be in 3rd or 4th or 5th position and those rarely get paid (a mortgage, second mortgage and other liens get paid first). The judgment is typically good (enforceable) for 7 years and after that it falls and the issue is done.
This type of judgment is rarely if ever attached to earnings, stocks, dividends, etc.
H9
deep bass
05-14-2008, 04:12 PM
I would just like to say that I didn't have to post the link of these speakers. These guys on here know every Polk Audio item that hits the market. They are on top of their game. All I had to do was verify that these are my items. In addition I have been a member since 2004, and they have helped me search for and analyze speakers since my affiliation with the forum (these guys are all brothers from another mother on here). It’s unfortunate that we are faced with the situation that has happened, and even worse that I have to be beaten up over a few measly dollars. I will look at this as a learning experience and (one that I will not forget).
engtaz
05-14-2008, 05:09 PM
Show ebay his threats. Report him to their fraud office.
engtaz
dorokusai
05-14-2008, 05:24 PM
I'd follow the earlier advice and follow up as much as possible with eBay. Forget about the toilet legal advice. The guy just took a leak on the wrong forum and the wrong group of folks....he's got a long road ahead of him.
deep bass
05-14-2008, 05:28 PM
I am trying my best...
deep bass
07-07-2008, 06:40 PM
Looks like they are back on ebay again! Now for $1800 from the original $1500
http://cgi.ebay.com/Polk-Audio-SDA-SRS-1-2TL_W0QQitemZ160257960396QQihZ006QQcategoryZ14993Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Best Wishes!
NotaSuv
07-07-2008, 08:14 PM
yes they are....but rest assured no one will over bid the mystery girl who placed the first bid
treitz3
07-07-2008, 08:21 PM
Absolutely a deadbeat seller and I can't believe after this he STILL has a perfect Flea-prey feedback. Un-freakin'believable! That place ain't nothin' but a crooks paradise. I'll be sure to update the threads on the other forums. Thanks for the update.
avguytx
07-07-2008, 11:50 PM
Has anyone done the "Ask the seller a question" thing yet? I say we gang bang him on that.
This piece of shit is one more contributing factor to why our society is going to hell in a hand basket.
dcmeigs
07-08-2008, 01:31 PM
Deep Bass, I think you need to drop some negative feedback on this guy. If he retaliates then so be it. I was under the impression that sellers couldn't drop negative feedback now. Is that not correct?
Ricardo
07-08-2008, 01:35 PM
How do you know that? Bidders names are hidden....unless you are the bidder.....
PolkClyde
07-08-2008, 03:14 PM
I have a pair of 1.2's sorry not for sell. Which tweeters are the replacement? thanks
F1nut
07-08-2008, 03:42 PM
The same ones for your 2A's, the RD0194-1.
billbillw
07-08-2008, 04:57 PM
Deep Bass, I think you need to drop some negative feedback on this guy. If he retaliates then so be it. I was under the impression that sellers couldn't drop negative feedback now. Is that not correct?
FYI: Sellers cannot leave negative feedback for buyers anymore. There should be no fear of retaliatory feedback strikes anymore.
Deep Bass, leave this idiot a neg strike!
Ricardo
07-08-2008, 05:09 PM
^^^^^What he said.
Auction still available, but I think they keep them for 60 days only. You have two days (maybe one) to post feedback. GO FOR IT!!!!
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Polk-Audio-SDA-SRS-1-2TL_W0QQitemZ160236789944QQihZ006QQcategoryZ14993Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Gaara
07-08-2008, 05:10 PM
nm Ricardo clarified it for me
dcmeigs
07-08-2008, 05:58 PM
Drop him a negative strike and leave a link to this thread as your comment. That will more than adequately warn a prospective buyer. A pox on those speakers, if you will.
ben62670
07-08-2008, 06:05 PM
.... The guy just took a leak on the wrong forum and the wrong group of folks....he's got a long road ahead of him.
He He He He:p
ben62670
07-08-2008, 06:06 PM
member *tkfoh* who are you.
Edit
Now invisible.
F1nut
07-12-2008, 03:38 AM
He pulled the auction.....LOL
http://cgi.ebay.com/Polk-Audio-SDA-SRS-1-2TL_W0QQitemZ160257960396QQihZ006QQcategoryZ14993Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
ben62670
07-12-2008, 04:22 AM
He sent me about 5 emails asking me why I pulled my bid. Did he really think I was going to keep it after doing some research and finding out what he did:rolleyes:
F1nut
07-12-2008, 04:27 AM
He's not too bright, is he!?!
janmike
07-12-2008, 04:44 AM
Not to mention the harassment he sent me.
F1nut
07-12-2008, 04:45 AM
Do tell.
NotaSuv
07-12-2008, 10:53 AM
He sent me about 5 emails asking me why I pulled my bid. Did he really think I was going to keep it after doing some research and finding out what he did:rolleyes:
wow and thought i was the only one ;)
candyliquor35m
07-12-2008, 02:01 PM
I think deep bass bought them for $1500 :)
PolkClyde
07-12-2008, 03:29 PM
At least they look mint!
Get ready for (8) new tweeters & redoing those crossovers!
I Want to upgrade my Polks... what I need to do just call Polk Audio and ask for the crosovers for SDA's 1.2 Should that be the first thing I do?
Thanks all
I Want to upgrade my Polks... what I need to do just call Polk Audio and ask for the crosovers for SDA's 1.2 Should that be the first thing I do?
Thanks all
Polk doesn't offer new crossovers, it's typically a DIY job. If you don't feel as you could handle it, see if you can find someone local to help you out.
deep bass
08-18-2008, 01:44 PM
In the end was it worth it????
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160268186857
Note: Look how much they sold for! ROFL! Unreal!
He got what he wanted.... more views, same price that i won for!
george daniel
08-18-2008, 01:49 PM
IIRC, he took a hit this time,, did he not? ;)
candyliquor35m
08-18-2008, 02:39 PM
Winning bid: US $1,500.00
(approximately C $1,591.35)
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Ended: 10-Aug-08 21:45:00 EDT
zingo
08-18-2008, 02:44 PM
I bet you they will be reposted though...
Ricardo
08-18-2008, 02:57 PM
Karma baby.
candyliquor35m
08-18-2008, 04:08 PM
windorblue( 228) US $1,500.00 10-Aug-08 21:44:36 EDT
Starting Price US $1,500.00 03-Aug-08 21:45:00 EDT
I'm pretty sure that someone that bids at the last minute wants them and there was no reserve so they are most likely sold to never be heard from again.
billbillw
08-18-2008, 04:39 PM
windorblue( 228) US $1,500.00 10-Aug-08 21:44:36 EDT
Starting Price US $1,500.00 03-Aug-08 21:45:00 EDT
I'm pretty sure that someone that bids at the last minute wants them and there was no reserve so they are most likely sold to never be heard from again.
Your missing the point. Its the seller, not the buyer.
zingo
08-18-2008, 04:51 PM
Correct. Even though these speakers have been "Sold" a few times. They always end up on ebay a few days later with some lame excuse or a new user name and the same pictures and description.
fossy
08-18-2008, 06:13 PM
I watched that auction & both parties have posted positive feedback for that transaction..............:eek:
F1nut
08-18-2008, 07:30 PM
Your missing the point.
He always does.
zingo
08-18-2008, 07:42 PM
I watched that auction & both parties have posted positive feedback for that transaction..............:eek:
If you had multiple accounts, they would all give each other good feedback too. ;)
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