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del44
07-05-2008, 03:51 PM
I'm doing a little experiment. I read about this method at another site. My Pink floyd WYWH album is the guinea pig. Although it looks good, I can hardly stand the snap,crackle, and pops. I'm using Elmers Premium wood glue. Not the white all purpose stuff. I squirted some on the album and then using a 1" paint brush I evenly spread it on the album. When it dries I 'll peel it off and give it a cleaning to make sure all the glue is removed. I just hope I used enough glue. Here's a pic.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j190/yarled2u/DSC00908-1.jpg
del44
07-05-2008, 04:51 PM
The glue dried pretty quick and peeled off with ease. The album has been cleaned and is drying. Even if it doesn't do anything to this particular album, really dirty ones would benefit. Here's a pic of the skin. It's hard to see the particles embedded in the glue.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j190/yarled2u/DSC00911-1.jpg
amulford
07-05-2008, 04:57 PM
Did you play it? Did it do the job???
pearsall001
07-05-2008, 06:24 PM
Very interesting & creative. Let us know how it turned out as far as improving the sound.
george daniel
07-05-2008, 07:51 PM
Good grief,, if it works,then I know how I'm gonna spend my twilight years,,I'm gonna be a VP.;)
del44
07-06-2008, 12:51 AM
The good news. There is absolutly no glue residue left on the album. And, after I played that side, my stylus was perfectly clean. Now, as far as doing any sonic improvement. The pops and static sounding snaps are still there. But not nearly as noticeable as before. Which means the album was probably shot before glueing. I had my reservations about this because I had cleaned this album prior to glueing about 4 times and couldn't get rid of the nasty pops and such. But I must admit, I will be trying this method again. I ahv lots of albums that need a deep cleaning. And, I didn't use that much glue.
F1nut
07-06-2008, 01:46 AM
Try steam cleaning your LP's, it's a helluva lot more effective than what you're doing.
del44
07-06-2008, 08:50 AM
I've already steam cleaned this one. As with most of them. And I have already used a distilled water/ alcohol combination. Scrubed and vacuumed, wiped clean.
janmike
07-06-2008, 10:02 AM
Very creative. As stated, for a few albums it does the trick, but for some of these guys with hundreds and hundreds of LP's it could be a costly venture.
bikezappa
07-06-2008, 10:32 AM
del44
Very interesting cleaning test. Good idea.
One problem is that the glue may not completely contact the record because of small amounts of trapped air between the glue and record.
A method that we use at where I work that can eleminate this air is to place the glue cover record before it dries in a vacuum chamber and pull a vacuum on the glue covered record. The air will bubble right throught the glue before it dries. You may need to reduce the glue with some other liquid to slow down the drying time.
Wish I had a large enough vacuum chamber to try this experiment.
Peter
del44
07-06-2008, 10:42 AM
Actually, this was just something I was putzing around with. I may use this technique on just a couple of really dirty albums. But, when I pulled the glue skin from the album, I ran my fingernail on it. It felt just like running your nail against a real album. I could feel all the grooves. I have no doubt that this wiil work on albums that have hard to get gunk embedded in it.
bikezappa
07-06-2008, 10:47 AM
I ran my fingernail on it. It felt just like running your nail against a real album. I could feel all the grooves. I have no doubt that this wiil work on albums that have hard to get gunk embedded in it.
It clearly is a simple method and you could do many albums at one time on one side.
It would be very interesting to cross section an album with glue on it to see with qa microscope if the glue trapped any air.
You should try an album that is good, with few pops and crackles, to see if this method cleans them up further.
Have you looked at the glue surface with a magnifying glass?
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