View Full Version : Check the prices CARVER M-1.0T R fetching
dee1949
08-19-2008, 11:48 AM
....on Ebay. What's up with this!!!!!
http://completed.shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQ_nkwZCARVERQ20MQ2d1Q2e0TQQLHQ5fCompleteZ1QQ_a rmrsZ1QQ_fromZR7QQ_mdoZQQ_sopZ12
Love mine , but $450........
candyliquor35m
08-19-2008, 06:42 PM
You can get them cheaper but that's a very fair price for one that doesn't have any issues. I've had to do nothing to mine. I had to send both my tfm-45 & 42 in for service for minor issues that cost about $200 each to have done.
zingo
08-19-2008, 06:46 PM
You link doesn't go anywhere Dee, but that price isn't completely unreasonable like previously stated. Caver gear has always held its value pretty well.
TroyD
08-19-2008, 07:01 PM
The m1.0t is the one Carver amp that I think sucks.
BDT
dee1949
08-19-2008, 08:59 PM
$375 - $450 Think it might be because of Carverfest with Bob Carver showing up?
...or log onto ebay and search completed items
http://cgi.ebay.com/CARVER-M-1-0T-POWER-AMPLIFIER-OUTSTANDING_W0QQitemZ190243487492QQcmdZViewItem?ha sh=item190243487492&_trkparms=39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A13|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
http://cgi.ebay.com/CARVER-AMPLIFIER-M-1-0T-HIGH-HEADROOM-LOW-FEEDBACK-AMP_W0QQitemZ160271327737QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item1 60271327737&_trkparms=39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A13|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
http://cgi.ebay.com/CARVER-M-1-0t-POWER-AMPLIFIER-AMP-200-WATTS-PER-CHANNEL_W0QQitemZ120292553293QQcmdZViewItem?hash=i tem120292553293&_trkparms=39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A13|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
candyliquor35m
08-19-2008, 09:23 PM
They don't make them anymore and they sound like a tube amp ;)
fossy
08-20-2008, 01:43 AM
$450 is to much ---- cause i didn't buy it:D:D If i had won that, I'd justify it a hundred different ways ...
But for $400 -- I'd think this is a better buy IMO
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=190242418389
strider
08-20-2008, 10:27 AM
$450 is to much ---- cause i didn't buy it:D:D If i had won that, I'd justify it a hundred different ways ...
But for $400 -- I'd think this is a better buy IMO
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=190242418389
Hell yeah it is. That one must have slipped under the radar, only 1 bid!
zingo
08-20-2008, 01:39 PM
Just get a couple of Silver Sevens and call it a day. :D
TNRabbit
08-20-2008, 02:47 PM
Just remember; unless it's been serviced by a QUALIFIED Carver technician, the caps & other internals on these amps are now 20+ years old & may not last much longer. $450 for one that has been serviced is really pretty darned good. Lots of folks have paid a ton for ones that are about to take a dump....you never know unless you know the seller or you have the service done yourself....
And a technician who doesn't know about the triac on a Carver amp can blow the entire thing sky high...
The M1.0t was very conservatively rated; they can run up to 600 wpc for "musically significant" periods of time..in the manual, I believe it says @ 30 minutes....
TroyD
08-21-2008, 08:19 AM
They don't make them anymore and they sound like a tube amp ;)
They don't make a LOT of things anymore, what does that have to do with anything? They are the opposite of rare.
I know the story behind the amp, it's supposed to sound like the CJ Premier 5. While I've not owned the Premier 5, it doesn't sound like ANY of the CJ amps that I HAVE owned.
George Grand
08-22-2008, 09:24 PM
I'm thinking a musically significant amount of time is on the order of milliseconds.
The only Carver amp I ever had that I was happy to sell was the M1.0t.
lakesailor
08-22-2008, 09:35 PM
I didn't at all care for mine and would have loved to have sold it for that kind of money.
candyliquor35m
08-22-2008, 09:40 PM
looks like the average is about $400 plus shipping give or take $25-$50.
George Grand
08-22-2008, 09:45 PM
The M1.0t owners manual specs were:
200wpc continuous into 8 ohms 20-20K
500wpc continuous into 4 ohms 20-20K
1000wpc continuous bridged mono into 8 ohms 20-20K
350wpc continuous into 8 ohms @ 1kHz
The brochure that prominently featured the M1.0t had verbage along the lines of "peak power for momentary musical transients is up to 800 watts per channel." That brochure also made a big deal about the amp being able to deliver 350wpc continuous into 8 ohms, but never hinted that kind of power wasn't available anywhere but 1kHz. There was also verbage about one channel being able to "borrow" power from the other channel if needed, and I never really knew what to make of that. I like Carver amps. Just not that one. And the turn on/off thumps were wicked with that amp. Worst I've had with any amp ever. I didn't trust that amp at all, and that is really not flattering coming from a Carver amp fan. The accomplishment in Santa Fe being a whole different facet, I felt this amp was poorly put together and maybe even an inferior product. And I squinted every freakin' time I turned it off or on. You shouldn't have to do that.
treitz3
08-22-2008, 10:07 PM
To be honest, me as well George. I'd like to add that IMO it had a rather shrill top end.
candyliquor35m
08-22-2008, 10:14 PM
I have 3 carvers and the m1.0t is the only one I haven't had to send in for a thump or any kind of repair. It has a minor hiccup which doesn't bother me a bit and isn't getting any worse.
George Grand
08-22-2008, 11:28 PM
I can't honestly say that I had it around long enough to make any observations other than those thumps are killing me. They were kind of thump/cracks. There was definitely some high-frequency activity in there along with a thump.
Another thing I thought about a few times in my life, but it doesn't keep me awake nights anymore is:
That is one of the few Carver amps with a THD rating other than "not greater than .5%" or "Less than .5%"
The owners manual rates it at .15%, same as the M-500t rating. If the M1.0t was voiced to sound like C-J tube monoblocks, why doesn't it have a THD that is more like a tube amp? I don't need a technical answer cause they make me fall asleep now.
Erik Tracy
08-23-2008, 01:46 AM
The M1.0t owners manual specs were:
200wpc continuous into 8 ohms 20-20K
500wpc continuous into 4 ohms 20-20K
1000wpc continuous bridged mono into 8 ohms 20-20K
350wpc continuous into 8 ohms @ 1kHz
The brochure that prominently featured the M1.0t had verbage along the lines of "peak power for momentary musical transients is up to 800 watts per channel." That brochure also made a big deal about the amp being able to deliver 350wpc continuous into 8 ohms, but never hinted that kind of power wasn't available anywhere but 1kHz. There was also verbage about one channel being able to "borrow" power from the other channel if needed, and I never really knew what to make of that. I like Carver amps. Just not that one. And the turn on/off thumps were wicked with that amp. Worst I've had with any amp ever. I didn't trust that amp at all, and that is really not flattering coming from a Carver amp fan. The accomplishment in Santa Fe being a whole different facet, I felt this amp was poorly put together and maybe even an inferior product. And I squinted every freakin' time I turned it off or on. You shouldn't have to do that.
Mine has been gloriously dependable ever since I got it new - no thumps - ever.
Still going strong in my HT setup now.
George Grand
08-23-2008, 07:55 AM
The thumps are well documented. If I'm not mistaken (and I'm not), two heavy-hitters from here, The Bros. McGowan, both had M1.0t amps that thumped. They got "fix kits" from Carver. No thanks. Maybe in later production models they eradicated the thump and that's why yours perfrorms okay.
I've had more Carver amps than you can imagine, and that was the only one that didn't cause me any afterthought when I sold it.
Erik Tracy
08-23-2008, 06:30 PM
The thumps are well documented. If I'm not mistaken (and I'm not), two heavy-hitters from here, The Bros. McGowan, both had M1.0t amps that thumped. They got "fix kits" from Carver. No thanks. Maybe in later production models they eradicated the thump and that's why yours perfrorms okay.
I've had more Carver amps than you can imagine, and that was the only one that didn't cause me any afterthought when I sold it.
I must be special... :D
Whatever....if folks want to poke each other in the eye...I'm outta here.
avguytx
08-23-2008, 08:52 PM
It's funny that so many disliked the M-1.0t out of all the amps but everyone is going to have an opinion of gear...which is good. Bob said the M-1.0t was one of his favorites, too. Ironic, huh? I wonder if that means my signed M-1.0t is worth a lot more now? :D
Actually, it just sits on a shelf now in the living room as the TFM-55 I got from Tom does the major 2-channel duty these days.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/avguytx/M10tamp/025a.jpg
George Grand
08-23-2008, 11:26 PM
Never in my wildest dreams did I think you would pass up the opportunity to mention that Mr. Carver signed an amp that you have ....... for about the four thousandth time.
avguytx
08-23-2008, 11:45 PM
Well, there you have it. 4,001.
engtaz
08-24-2008, 07:53 AM
LOL
engtaz
Lasareath
08-24-2008, 08:25 AM
It's funny that so many disliked the M-1.0t out of all the amps but everyone is going to have an opinion of gear...which is good. Bob said the M-1.0t was one of his favorites, too. Ironic, huh? I wonder if that means my signed M-1.0t is worth a lot more now? :D
Actually, it just sits on a shelf now in the living room as the TFM-55 I got from Tom does the major 2-channel duty these days.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w276/avguytx/M10tamp/025a.jpg
That's Awesome!!!!!
I wish I had an Amp signed by Bob Carver!!!
dc55110
08-27-2008, 07:32 AM
Here is one for $200. No association.
AudiogoN - Caver M 1.0t - $200 (http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampstran&1224963301&/Carver-M-1.0t-100w/ch-stereo-a)
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