View Full Version : Adcom Hook Up Probs -???
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-09-2003, 04:37 PM
i got my adcom, speaker wires to the amp speaker outs, i got the inputs and outputs plugged up.
Heres my problem, Its playing the sound, but its only playing like a whisper - like its a sound that is unclear and heard 5,000,000 miles away - neone know what is wrong?
HBombToo
01-09-2003, 04:47 PM
plug it in. ;)
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-09-2003, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by HBombToo
plug it in. ;)
it is plugged in...
HBombToo
01-09-2003, 04:54 PM
turn it on and make sure the flux capacitor is charging. ;)
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-09-2003, 04:58 PM
Man, its on - its plugged up - it hooked up, I AM GETTING NO SOUND! IT GOES NO LOWER AND NO HIGHER! Its just a hollow sound that sounds like ****! I am trying to get this hooked up, please either help me - or dont post, im sorry, but this is really pissing me off! I paid for it, hooked it up - and it sounds worse than the yamaha! It has no sound, but yet it still does, Its like 1 db of sound that is playing that gets no louder or lower, and when u turn the amp off or the receiver the speakers make this terrible noise! CAN SOMEONE OUT THERE THAT IS TRYING TO HELP - HELP ME?
HBombToo
01-09-2003, 04:59 PM
Are the arrows on your audio cables pointed the right way?
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-09-2003, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by HBombToo
Are the arrows on your audio cables pointed the right way?
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
eh?
HBombToo
01-09-2003, 05:02 PM
Ok... serious now.
sounds like the preamp is not right. are you sure you have the preamp out to the amp in correctly?
HBomb
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-09-2003, 05:07 PM
l/r main preouts to the amp from the receiver, all plugged up
HBombToo
01-09-2003, 05:11 PM
have you tried multiple sources? ie. cd,dvd,cable....
RuSsMaN
01-09-2003, 05:12 PM
Are you SURE you are using PRE-OUTs, not a 'tape out'?
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-09-2003, 05:14 PM
There is a whole list of em russ, It goes in order from right to left up to down, Right main, left main, right surround, left surround, center, subwoofer - inputs, i have the mains hooked up and they go to the outputs on the amp.
Hbomb - Yes, I have....same thing
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-09-2003, 05:15 PM
could the fuse be blown?
HBombToo
01-09-2003, 05:15 PM
power cycle the amp?
RuSsMaN
01-09-2003, 05:17 PM
You need OUTPUTS, not INPUTS. Those inputs are to connect an external 5.1 processor (dvd player etc).
Oh man.... ooooooooooh man. heheheh
Yeah those are 5.1 inputs, not pre-amp outputs.
What model is your receiver?
HBombToo
01-09-2003, 05:20 PM
did you make that mistake misty?
RuSsMaN
01-09-2003, 05:23 PM
The 5460 does NOT have pre-amp outputs.
How much you want fer yer Adcom? ;)
Ok it's a HTR-5460, sorry man I checked the specs. No pre-amp outputs. Guess it's time to get a new receiver or pre-amp. :D
HBombToo
01-09-2003, 05:25 PM
oooooops
as F1 would say, "Bad Planning!".......
HBomb
I think Sid is probably screaming at the top of his lungs and beating his head on the wall right about now..........\
I know I would be.
RuSsMaN
01-09-2003, 05:31 PM
Lifes little learning experiences, aint' it great?
HBombToo
01-09-2003, 05:36 PM
sounds like an advance on your allowance is in order. ;)
TroyD
01-09-2003, 05:38 PM
Ding! Fries are done!
Ding! Fries are done!
I'll give ya fifty bones for the amp and a vow to NOT submit this to the Darwin awards.
I'm just hackin' on ya, Sid ;)
BDT
RuSsMaN
01-09-2003, 05:40 PM
A vision of Sid, looking at his receiver.....
TroyD
01-09-2003, 05:40 PM
Sid,
Unplug the amp and set it on the carpet next to your rack. That's what some folks have done with their amps. ;)
BDT
HBombToo
01-09-2003, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by TroyD
Sid,
Unplug the amp and set it on the carpet next to your rack. That's what some folks have done with their amps. ;)
BDT
:lol: :lol: :lol:
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-09-2003, 06:11 PM
Yeah, I have been really mad at this pos! Well, I guess this meets the 6 p's...lol! Well I am going to later sale the YAMAHA (russ, not the adcom) - after i get all the adcom amps, and then I am going to buy a 5 channel NAD receiver, with 5 channel pre amp outputs! Muahahhaha, the yamaha receiver will later be sold, If i dont trade it with my Dad for something! lol!
Troy - I decided to set it on my dresser, and get rid of the KLH left main, Ill put the right main back...maybe! lol!
Yeah, I made a big mistake - first time learner here, no guidance and i didnt even think to ask! lol! But...yeah, im keeping the adcom but will later on trade/sale the yamaha with someone or w/e! But I give it to the adcom, its one heavy SOB!
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-09-2003, 06:16 PM
here this beast is...
U gotta love 18 dollar digi cams from wally world
meestercleef
01-09-2003, 07:07 PM
Now I don't feel so bad about connecting a spkr out of phase.
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-09-2003, 07:23 PM
LOL! First time lamers for everything! lol!
danger boy
01-09-2003, 08:16 PM
Mx, what kind of Adcom amp is that? whats the number on it? sorry things didn't work out for ya. but at least you got an amp already when you get a receiver with pre-outs. or go seperates.
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-09-2003, 09:10 PM
GFA-545II i think..let me check
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-09-2003, 09:13 PM
My Future System will consist of
Electronics -
NAD Receiver
Adcom Amps (3 - 2 channel amps)
Yamaha DVD Player
Sony VCR
Magnavox TV
Audio -
Polk: Rt35i
RT25i
CS245i
M&K -
MX-90 (with upgraded drivers)
Wires -
MIT or Transparent (pending)
Why get a receiver? Why not just get a pre-pro?
Check it out:
http://www.audiosystems.com/Consignment.htm
Adcom GTP-760 preamp/surround sound processor
Retail 1800.00
This one (consignment) 750.00 !!
That'll match your amps perfectly. ;)
They've got a Adcom GFA-545 amplifier for $250 also.
Frank Z
01-09-2003, 09:32 PM
Sid,
Try posting a pic of the back of the receiver and the back of the amp. Maybe we can get this sorted out.
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-09-2003, 09:43 PM
Well im getting the NAD for 200 less, and Itll be better for the future, frank we already figured it out - its inputs for an external device, not preouts -- but thanx for all the help u guys! thanx for the link, will look - the 545's are all over ebay too...no upgrading probs there
HBombToo
01-10-2003, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by MxStYlEpOlKmAn
Yeah, I made a big mistake - first time learner here, no guidance and i didnt even think to ask! lol!
We are all human and these things happen. I have been an enginneer for almost 15 years and have learned 1 thing through the years... "Ask Questions because there is no such thing as a dumb 1". Never try to reinvent the wheel!
You'll work it out I'm sure.
HBomb
danger boy
01-10-2003, 10:14 AM
I agree with HBombToo. simple mistakes do happen to all of us... we learn from them.. no one got hurt and only Mx's ego was bruised for a short time. but he's man enough to admit he f*cked up. ha ha ha.
I've been there.. not with the amp thing.. but i've taken my lumps too. Whenever looking to upgrade or add something to the HT or my computer. i do tons of searching, testing, reading, and just plain homework on the product first.. it's saves me some headaches before.
good luck Sid. it'll work out in the end. and you'll have a kickass system soon. :p
gidrah
01-10-2003, 10:35 AM
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Don't be sold on anything! Make sure the NAD is capable of what you need both now and in the future. Post a model number and members will be glad to help.
Recently, the price and features/qualities of pre/processors has really changed. The price and features/qualities of amps has changed little. I'd worry about the amps first; providing you're already decided on a relative speaker choice, then the pre/pro, which will have been improved and be cheaper by the time you're ready.
I'm sorry it didn't work out for you! I guess you "got your learn on".
hoosier21
01-10-2003, 10:38 AM
Sid
Here is a way to use the amp now, it is a real work around, but you can at least hear the thing play.
If you have a tape deck, hook it up to the tape loop, hook the tape deck input to the receiver's tape out, hook up the tape deck's output to the Adcom. Select your source on the receiver, hit record on your tape deck, you will now use the tape deck's record level knobs as your volume controls.
Like I said this is a real jury-rigging of your system, but you can at least get a feel of what the Adcom can do.
TonyPTX
01-10-2003, 10:45 AM
Look at Hoosier bringin' on the poor man's electronic riggin' techniques. Good thought, I would have never though about that. Question is, does Sid have a tape deck?
meestercleef
01-10-2003, 10:53 AM
Quick--someone try to sell him a like-new Nakamichi Dragon! Only played by a little old lady on Sundays!
Gary Robertson
01-10-2003, 11:09 AM
Okay,
Sometimes i had problems like this and it was a fuse in the back of the amp and also one time the polarity was backwards-(i had positive to negative) and one time i found the mute botton on in the preamp.-oh also on an ADCOM in the preamp is an extended process and if you have that on and accdentally have the cables in the normal jacks this could cause that problem..
The mute button does let a little sound through when the volume is turned up
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-10-2003, 04:54 PM
LOL! I am against Tapes and Radio - therefore I dont have a tapedeck, nor my radio atenna plugged up -- infact i dont no where the heck it is!
I think I am going to stick with a yamaha receiver, I found one with 6.1 preouts, for a rear center, and I can get it for 300 dollars. If u didnt know, I am not all that high on video, I could careless for a 40-80 inch tv, Im satisfied for 25-35, and I dont need one that is very high class, so on the video factor of the receiver, I could give 2 cents less about it! When I look for audio, I look at freq., THD, (and now inputs, outputs) - etc! I mean all my rig is a kids rig, i want it to play loud but still sound good!
Well I did eff up, thats for sure - really big eff! LOL! but here is the yammer i want, Yamaha Receiver - HTR5560 --- 6.1 preouts, .06 thd, 20-20 top art design - thats pretty much all im looking at, all I need for a receiver is something to plug my cd player, vcr, dvd player into and my amps! LOL! If it plays sound im cool, I figured the NAD would be a waste, since as russ put it - a waste to NAD amps...but this is what I am looking, I am mostly looking for something that is cheap and will work! LOL!
Well Here is My Future System - AGAIN! LOL!
Yamaha -
Receiver: HTR5560
CD Player
Adcom -
(3) - GFA-545II
Polk Audio -
Mains - RT35i
Center - CS245i
Back Center - CSi20 or a (single) rt25i -- or nothing! MUAHAHHA!
Surrounds - RT25i
M&K -
Subwoofer - MX-90 (Upgraded Drivers)
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-10-2003, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by Gary Robertson
Okay,
Sometimes i had problems like this and it was a fuse in the back of the amp and also one time the polarity was backwards-(i had positive to negative) and one time i found the mute botton on in the preamp.-oh also on an ADCOM in the preamp is an extended process and if you have that on and accdentally have the cables in the normal jacks this could cause that problem..
The mute button does let a little sound through when the volume is turned up
Yeah I thought it was the fuse too, although I found out that my current receiver has absolutely not preouts....
meestercleef
01-10-2003, 07:54 PM
I am not familiar with your amp or your prospective rcvr, so excuse me if I'm belaboring the obvious--you're getting a 6.1 pre-out rcvr, but your amp has 5 channels, right? I'm just wanting to make sure you aren't expecting to get 6.1 from a 5-channel amp. Or am I lost?
Be careful, I recently connected my Sony 4ES receiver pre-out to my Adcom 565 pre-amp aux in, then to the Adcom 555 power amp. I found that I had to turn my receiver volume up quite a bit before I could get any decent sound from my Adcom. The instruction manual of my 4ES does not mention anything about the pre-out. It seems that those pre-outs are of the variable output type. Anybody know anything about those 4ES preouts?
PS. Mine are definitely out, not in.
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-10-2003, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by meestercleef
I am not familiar with your amp or your prospective rcvr, so excuse me if I'm belaboring the obvious--you're getting a 6.1 pre-out rcvr, but your amp has 5 channels, right? I'm just wanting to make sure you aren't expecting to get 6.1 from a 5-channel amp. Or am I lost?
The amp is 2 channel - I am getting 2 more 2 channel amps - 3 in all! Therefore I could run 6 channels...But I doubt I will...
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-10-2003, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by shiu
Be careful, I recently connected my Sony 4ES receiver pre-out to my Adcom 565 pre-amp aux in, then to the Adcom 555 power amp. I found that I had to turn my receiver volume up quite a bit before I could get any decent sound from my Adcom. The instruction manual of my 4ES does not mention anything about the pre-out. It seems that those pre-outs are of the variable output type. Anybody know anything about those 4ES preouts?
PS. Mine are definitely out, not in.
If I got this right, U connected a sony receiver to an adcom preamp, then to a adcom amp...wtf??
The photo of your GFA545 looks like my GFA555, my looks taller, so you know the Adcom power amp only provides one set of inputs. So I have no choice but to connect my STR-DA4ES pre-out to my one of the GFP-565 preamp's inputs, in this case "video aux". I still have a turntable, tape deck, and a CD player connected to my Adcom system.
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-10-2003, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by shiu
The photo of your GFA545 looks like my GFA555, my looks taller, so you know the Adcom power amp only provides one set of inputs. So I have no choice but to connect my STR-DA4ES pre-out to my one of the GFP-565 preamp's inputs, in this case "video aux". I still have a turntable, tape deck, and a CD player connected to my Adcom system.
This mug -- has lost me! LOL! I thought u do this - U take the inputs on the amp, to the preouts on the receiver, and thats it -- i confusid...
btw - whats the specs on the gfa545?
receiver pre-out to Adcom preamp's (565)video/aux input. in order to use the Adcom system as front channel for movies. If I use the Adcom for music listening, I simply turn the Adcom preamp's selector switch to cd or phono. My is a 555, not 545, rated for 200W per channel 8 ohms, or 325W per channel 4 ohms, or 600W if bridged to mono.
gidrah
01-13-2003, 12:13 PM
Correst me if I'm wrong, but it seems as if the receiver you have decided on has pre-outs only for the rear center. This wuld be a mighty waste of that Adcom IMO.
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-13-2003, 05:31 PM
LOL! Yeah im not getting the NAD if thats what ur referring to - I am getting the Yamaha HTR5560 - it has all the preouts for all channels (6.1)
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-13-2003, 05:34 PM
ur looking at the 800 dollar yamaha i guess, which has only one preout....i guess....but the one i want has 6
RuSsMaN
01-13-2003, 05:37 PM
Sid, that back panel shows SIX pre-outs. And for God's sake, the are even HIGHLIGHTED.
Read more, post less? ;)
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-13-2003, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by RuSsMaN
Sid, that back panel shows SIX pre-outs. And for God's sake, the are even HIGHLIGHTED.
Read more, post less? ;)
LOL - I highlighted the preouts..lol! And I tried to go back and add a pic but it wouldnt let me...lol - but do I have a winner? or do i need to go back on the search?
RuSsMaN
01-13-2003, 05:48 PM
How about we let this dog lie until you've got at least 3 or 4 Franklins saved?
MxStYlEpOlKmAn
01-13-2003, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by RuSsMaN
How about we let this dog lie until you've got at least 3 or 4 Franklins saved?
Well Im trying to find the one I want, and I want to try to stay under 400 dollars! lol! I can get the yamaha for 300 (350 counting shipping *estimate*), I just need to write it down, so i can save up - buy it..mark it off and move on to the amps! LOL!
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