Emotiva Story.

[cnh]

What is that memory device in Men In Black called (neuralizer something?). We could use that here, make everyone forget what they've posted, that they've posted and start ALL OVER AGAIN? Or does Emotiva already have one of those in every unit they sell, perhaps...

cnh

[xcapri79]

What is that memory device in Men In Black called (neuralizer something?). We could use that here, make everyone forget what they've posted, that they've posted and start ALL OVER AGAIN? Or does Emotiva already have one of those in every unit they sell, perhaps...

cnh

They would have a hard time keeping the costs down if they did. "Men in Black" is a popular title by the way. Thank me.

[cnh]

Your welcome and a thanks....

[cfrizz]

You just noticed one of the biggest benefits of an amp. Listen to music you know very well. If you all of a sudden are hearing instruments better, clearer, more separation of instruments etc...congrats you now know the purchase was worth it. If you don't...get your hearing checked!:D


Okay, to continue from eariler...I have now installed the XPA-3 and listened to some music only, no movies yet. Being new at using an amp, (only used receivers in the past) can someone tell me what to look for exactly?? I put in a 2 channel sacd and started it. I at first thought I had done something wrong since I have my system set up to not use a sub with 2 channel - the bass was much more than I normally had?? I got up and checked my subs....none were playing. So I certainly do have more bass coming out of the rt55i's than I thought was pssible?? I have listed most of my equip in my signature so you can see, I really don't have high end stuff..From what little I have got to play with my system since I got the amp it would seem like a big step up for me!! Hopefully I will get to work with it some more this week-end and watch a movie also.

Please, if there are things I should check for, let me know. I am new at this and have 30 days to change my mind and send it back...

[vmaxer]

You just noticed one of the biggest benefits of an amp. Listen to music you know very well. If you all of a sudden are hearing instruments better, clearer, more separation of instruments etc...congrats you now know the purchase was worth it. If you don't...get your hearing checked!:D

cfrizz - Thanks a lot for responding, still music only at this point, but so far so good. The increased bass and overall clarity seems great to me. But, like I said, I am new to using a amp so any input as to what to look/listen for is appreciated.

[comfortablycurt]

Haha...I don't think this thread has had anything informative in it..:p

Now that's not true at all. For your information, there have been at least 3 posts in this thread with very good information in them.:p

I'll take you up on the XPA-3...but only if you'd be willing to let it go for 450,175 dollars. I'm a little strapped for cash this week...so that's all I can come up with. Let me know.;)

[moe]

Okay, to continue from eariler...I have now installed the XPA-3 and listened to some music only, no movies yet. Being new at using an amp, (only used receivers in the past) can someone tell me what to look for exactly?? I put in a 2 channel sacd and started it. I at first thought I had done something wrong since I have my system set up to not use a sub with 2 channel - the bass was much more than I normally had?? I got up and checked my subs....none were playing. So I certainly do have more bass coming out of the rt55i's than I thought was pssible?? I have listed most of my equip in my signature so you can see, I really don't have high end stuff..From what little I have got to play with my system since I got the amp it would seem like a big step up for me!! Hopefully I will get to work with it some more this week-end and watch a movie also.

Please, if there are things I should check for, let me know. I am new at this and have 30 days to change my mind and send it back...

You really should have tried the Boulder 2050 route,I think it pretty much kills the xp3.That said,you're not gonna buy a better new amp unless you spend twice more,and that would be a bad idea as you need a prepro first.

You don't need anyone to tell you what to listen for,if you don't think the difference is good send it back,if it is you should know.Don't try to make someone that's never heard your set happy,they'll never be happy till you have the same set they have.

[Kex]

... You don't need anyone to tell you what to listen for,if you don't think the difference is good send it back,if it is you should know.Don't try to make someone that's never heard your set happy,they'll never be happy till you have the same set they have.To add to this sentiment: if you're not sure whether the difference you are hearing is worth the price you paid, or the trouble of the extra IC cables and placement issues involved, then it most probably isn't ... especially if you only think you are hearing a difference, but are not completely convinced of it. You must decide for yourself when it comes down to it. There is no point in letting anyone talk you into it ... and it's your money, not theirs.

You probably should have started a new thread BTW. This is the new joke thread!

[vmaxer]

You really should have tried the Boulder 2050 route,I think it pretty much kills the xp3.That said,you're not gonna buy a better new amp unless you spend twice more,and that would be a bad idea as you need a prepro first.

You don't need anyone to tell you what to listen for,if you don't think the difference is good send it back,if it is you should know.Don't try to make someone that's never heard your set happy,they'll never be happy till you have the same set they have.


Thanks Moe...I'm not sure what to say, I'm really not trying to make others happy and I am sure there are many members with a lot better systems and amps. I am, however, looking for their expert opinions. I have read a lot on this forum and think there is a wealth of knowledge here to learn from. I know they can't hear my setup and I can't hear theirs, but there is still a lot of experience here and I welcome both positive and negative feedback....who knows, it may save me money.

On the other hand I have a used 2 channel Parasound amp coming to add to the upstairs setup that I plan to use downstairs for comparison first..I just don't have a lot of time being a single father of a 8 year old girl, she comes first.

Thanks again!!

[xcapri79]

Guy's please don't keep making this thread longer, as I'm already so far behind, I'm not sure I'll ever catch up, and then, what would I do? Where would I be?:(


We think that the best performance/cost ratio amps in the market deserve to have the longest thread in this forum.
Emotiva has answered our prayers for sufficient and affordable amplification for our Polk LSi's.

[shack]

Don't try to make someone that's never heard your set happy,they'll never be happy till you have the same set they have.

Translation...:confused:

[shack]

My Junior's Cheesecake was excellent!

[comfortablycurt]

We think that the best performance/cost ratio amps in the market deserve to have the longest thread in this forum.
Emotiva has answered our prayers for sufficient and affordable amplification for our Polk LSi's.

Hm...I thought those prayers had been answered many years ago...There are plenty of other options for affordable, very efficient amps.

It's called the used market.;)

[BlueFox]

Don't try to make someone that's never heard your set happy,they'll never be happy till you have the same set they have.


Translation..


Misery likes company.

[cfrizz]

I don't know where you 2 are getting these responses from. There are PLENTY of clueless individuals out there who don't have any kind of understanding about music in general, so wouldn't know the first thing about good sound or what to listen for. To many, it is simply background noise.

What he has been describing is precisely what a powerful amp brings to the table, he simply wants confirmation from those of us who know for sure that he is hearing the right things, and that he has a clearer understanding of what he should be listening for.

He said NOTHING about not being happy with the sound, or trying to make anyone else happy about his sound.:confused: Nor did he say anything about the difference he was hearing not being worth the price he paid.

In the end he will have a much better understanding about amps & about music.

Project much?



You really should have tried the Boulder 2050 route,I think it pretty much kills the xp3.That said,you're not gonna buy a better new amp unless you spend twice more,and that would be a bad idea as you need a prepro first.

You don't need anyone to tell you what to listen for,if you don't think the difference is good send it back,if it is you should know.Don't try to make someone that's never heard your set happy,they'll never be happy till you have the same set they have.


To add to this sentiment: if you're not sure whether the difference you are hearing is worth the price you paid, or the trouble of the extra IC cables and placement issues involved, then it most probably isn't ... especially if you only think you are hearing a difference, but are not completely convinced of it. You must decide for yourself when it comes down to it. There is no point in letting anyone talk you into it ... and it's your money, not theirs.

You probably should have started a new thread BTW. This is the new joke thread!

[Ricardo]

Translation...:confused:

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[shack]

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Thank you Recardo....It's all so clear now.

[mmadden28]

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[mmadden28]

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[vmaxer]

You really should have tried the Boulder 2050 route,I think it pretty much kills the xp3.That said,you're not gonna buy a better new amp unless you spend twice more,and that would be a bad idea as you need a prepro first.

You don't need anyone to tell you what to listen for,if you don't think the difference is good send it back,if it is you should know.Don't try to make someone that's never heard your set happy,they'll never be happy till you have the same set they have.

Boulder huh?? Is that what you use...sems like a great entry level amp. Not sure how it would fit in with the rest of my setup. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Boulder
Boulder also makes digital components, pre-amplifiers, and surround sound processor. Boulder amplifiers have immense power reserves, terrific dynamics, and yet are sweet sounding and delicate. The 300 watt / channel stereo Boulder 1060 is pictured at the left.


Boulder 800 Series amplifiers
Boulder 850 mono amplifier. $11,000/pair
Boulder 1000 Series amplifiers
Boulder 1060 stereo amplifier. 300 w/channel. $24,000.
Boulder 1050 monoblock amplifier. 500 w/channel. $42,000/pair.
Boulder 2000 Series amplifiers
Boulder 2060 stereo amplifier. 600 w/channel. $44,000.
Boulder 2050 monoblock amplifiers. 1000 w/channel. $83,000/pair.



If they only had a three channel version...........

maybe my next upgrade, I need to save for just a bit before I am ready for this. Thanks for the suggestion.:):)

[heiney9]

I've heard an Emotiva recently and I was woefully underwhelmed. I had higher hopes for such "fan boy" fan fare. It was by far one of my least favorite amps I've heard in quite some time. Lifeless, flat, 2 dimensional and lacking in almost every area compared to Adcom, Marsh, Monarchy and Pass.

There.........the cat is out of the bag. I would love to audition one again just to be sure the results are repeatable. I had high hopes because of all the people who seem to be ga ga over these things. But I come away even more perplexed as to why all the accolades.

Is it a bad product.........probably not for what it is intended and that's HT. I can think of many more desirable and more musical products, even for HT duty. IMHO, I could never own an Emo based on what I've heard so far.

But, those of you who think these products are the "bomb" need to audition more gear.......Emo's price pretty much defines it's performance, build quality and parts quality.

I'm not here to ruin anyone's day, or crap on their gear. This is just my opinion based on my audition. I've been in this hobby for a very long time and been exposed to a lot of different gear. It fills a niche for entry level HT gear.....nothing more, nothing less.

FWIW, I came away almost as underwhelmed with Outlaw gear when they were all the internet rage.

[Kex]

I don't know where you 2 are getting these responses from. ...You may be jumping to conclusions. I can't answer for moe's comments, but I was certainly not trying to imply that he was unhappy in any way, I was simply pointing out that the difference should be obvious to him and that others cannot tell him if he likes what he is hearing or not.

You don't have to be a Zagat critic to know whether the food you are eating tastes excellent to you or not, although the Zagat critic might know why the food tastes excellent. I don't think you have to be an audio expert, or engineer, to know whether you like what you are hearing either.

Then again, I suppose some people do actually buy things only because they heard or read somewhere that it was brilliant, and simply echo that sentiment to others thereafter when asked about how they like their new purchase.

Now this thread is going off in an entirely different direction again! It's a good thing I had some delicious PIE earlier, but I'm not sure why it was delicious, except that I liked it! I used to wonder why people would even bother to make posts about PIE, just because they were bored with a thread, but now I see that it actually is very soothing to do just that :D!

[comfortablycurt]

I've heard an Emotiva recently and I was woefully underwhelmed. I had higher hopes for such "fan boy" fan fare. It was by far one of my least favorite amps I've heard in quite some time. Lifeless, flat, 2 dimensional and lacking in almost every area compared to Adcom, Marsh, Monarchy and Pass.

There.........the cat is out of the bag. I would love to audition one again just to be sure the results are repeatable. I had high hopes because of all the people who seem to be ga ga over these things. But I come away even more perplexed as to why all the accolades.

Is it a bad product.........probably not for what it is intended and that's HT. I can think of many more desirable and more musical products, even for HT duty. IMHO, I could never own an Emo based on what I've heard so far.

But, those of you who think these products are the "bomb" need to audition more gear.......Emo's price pretty much defines it's performance, build quality and parts quality.

I'm not here to ruin anyone's day, or crap on their gear. This is just my opinion based on my audition. I've been in this hobby for a very long time and been exposed to a lot of different gear. It fills a niche for entry level HT gear.....nothing more, nothing less.

FWIW, I came away almost as underwhelmed with Outlaw gear when they were all the internet rage.

Ahh, the much anticipated, "Brock's Review of Emotiva". An essential chapter in The Emotiva Story.

Thanks for the thoughts Brock.:)

[vmaxer]

I've heard an Emotiva recently and I was woefully underwhelmed. I had higher hopes for such "fan boy" fan fare. It was by far one of my least favorite amps I've heard in quite some time. Lifeless, flat, 2 dimensional and lacking in almost every area compared to Adcom, Marsh, Monarchy and Pass.

There.........the cat is out of the bag. I would love to audition one again just to be sure the results are repeatable. I had high hopes because of all the people who seem to be ga ga over these things. But I come away even more perplexed as to why all the accolades.

Is it a bad product.........probably not for what it is intended and that's HT. I can think of many more desirable and more musical products, even for HT duty. IMHO, I could never own an Emo based on what I've heard so far.

But, those of you who think these products are the "bomb" need to audition more gear.......Emo's price pretty much defines it's performance, build quality and parts quality.

I'm not here to ruin anyone's day, or crap on their gear. This is just my opinion based on my audition. I've been in this hobby for a very long time and been exposed to a lot of different gear. It fills a niche for entry level HT gear.....nothing more, nothing less.

FWIW, I came away almost as underwhelmed with Outlaw gear when they were all the internet rage.


heiney9,

I appreciate your input as I do all of the others. I hope I haven't caused problems or issues of any kind between any members here.

To explain from my point of view: As I've stated earlier in the post I have only used receivers in the past, and have never owned an amp. I have been into Polk speakers for several years and have been happy with their products and their great customer service. None of my friends have amps, the closest thing is a Bose system ( I won't go there ) This means I really don't have a baseline except for the Onkyo receivers I've used. The Emotiva does sound better than what I have had. On a couple of occasions I have gotten up to turn off my subs when listening to 2 channe sacd's to find they weren't on. I even unplugged them to be sure. I have never had as much sound or bass coming from the RT55i's. I KNOW the amp is a step up for me, but maybe not the best direction. I have only had it a couple days so I still can return it if I need to.

I have a Parasound HCA1000A coming (bought used) I plan to compare it to the Emotiva.

hainey9, what is your opinion of the Parasound?? Do you have any experience with them??

I appreciate everyone's input on the and really want to hear from people who have heard an Emo and can report how they compare to others they have listened to.

I can't go with the very best or expensive amp such as the $83,000.00 suggestion earlier and I seriously doubt that most here could.

:confused:Comparing the same logic to speakers: there are much more expensive speakers out there than Polk and I'm sure some are much better but I am happy with the Polks. I am trying to do the same thing with the amp decision; I probably won't end up with the best amp, but hopefully I will get the best one possible for my money.

:)Thanks to everyone again!!:)

And along the way we may reach the big 1000:eek:

[mmadden28]

I've heard an Emotiva recently and I was woefully underwhelmed....

....

Which model Emotiva amp did you audition?

[Lowell_M]

Which model Emotiva amp did you audition?

It was the XPA-5 on my 2-channel system. I wasn't terribly impressed myself. Maybe it was a gear synergy issue, but the amp seemed to compress the dynamics and play everything loud and the soundstage sucked back into the speakers. To me it was as if we started playing MP3's instead of HDCD.

I wasn't a big fan, but at the same time, the XPA-5 probably sounds awesome to somebody who is making the move from an AVR. I agree with Brocks comments regarding pricepoint, underwhelmingness, etc.....

[Toolfan66]

I have the XPA-3, And it did wonders for my system. I understand a lot of guys here have been fortunate to have had many, and or have been able to listem to many AMP's. I for one want to try something else. eather way having the EMOTIVA is better then not having an AMP at all.

[cfrizz]

Bingo! This is what it is all about. Emo & Outlaw are great ways to get into a higher class of sound without putting you in the poor house. No one said it was the be all to end all. There is ALWAYS something out there that is better.

But these companies get your feet in the door. Now some might be content to stay there, those that aren't are certainly free to try more gear.

Either way there is NO reason to beat down on anyone that thinks that Emo is the cats meow on THEIR system because as Vmaxer states, it's a big step up from what he is used to hearing.

Live & let live folks. Let the newbie amp owners enjoy their gear without being hassled about trying something better before they have even had a chance to fully settle in with what they just got.


I have the XPA-3, And it did wonders for my system. I understand a lot of guys here have been fortunate to have had many, and or have been able to listem to many AMP's. I for one want to try something else. eather way having the EMOTIVA is better then not having an AMP at all.

[Toolfan66]

On another note, Getting better IC's, And speaker cable's took it up another notch as well.

[metal83]

I have the XPA-3, And it did wonders for my system. I understand a lot of guys here have been fortunate to have had many, and or have been able to listem to many AMP's. I for one want to try something else. eather way having the EMOTIVA is better then not having an AMP at all.

I want a Sunfire...;)

[metal83]

The XPA-3 was my first Amp as well. It definitely made a difference over an AVR. Watching movies sounds great, but 2 channel music on the other hand, seems to leave something to be desired. I "need" to try one of those Sunfire amps, and as soon as i can find one worth buying (price and condition wise), i'll be all over it. But like i said in another post, i'll have to sell my XPA-3 to do so, not sure how easy that's going to be.

[Toolfan66]

Me too, I would still like to audition an ADCOM, And ROTEL AS WELL.

[heiney9]

heiney9,

I appreciate your input as I do all of the others. I hope I haven't caused problems or issues of any kind between any members here.



I have a Parasound HCA1000A coming (bought used) I plan to compare it to the Emotiva.

hainey9, what is your opinion of the Parasound?? Do you have any experience with them??

I appreciate everyone's input on the and really want to hear from people who have heard an Emo and can report how they compare to others they have listened to.

I can't go with the very best or expensive amp such as the $83,000.00 suggestion earlier and I seriously doubt that most here could.

:confused:Comparing the same logic to speakers: there are much more expensive speakers out there than Polk and I'm sure some are much better but I am happy with the Polks. I am trying to do the same thing with the amp decision; I probably won't end up with the best amp, but hopefully I will get the best one possible for my money.

:)Thanks to everyone again!!:)

And along the way we may reach the big 1000:eek:

Look this is just one person's opinion.......mine. I'm truly not trying to run anyone's gear or choices into the ground. I know there is better than what I own too. I just feel that all the praise isn't exactly warranted because I have heard amps (used) that cost 1/2 of an Emo that I feel are more musical, etc.

My best advice vmaxer is to try and compare as much gear as possible. I would choose the Parasound over the Emo w/o even hearing it. Parasound has a great rep and a signature sound which many prefer. But, the only way to know for sure and be confident with your own choice is to compare them in your own environment.

Also all those that are content with their choices......just enjoy. Audio is a journey so experience as much as you can if that's your thing.

Now, I know it's early but I want some PIE

H9

[moe]

heiney9,

I appreciate your input as I do all of the others. I hope I haven't caused problems or issues of any kind between any members here.

To explain from my point of view: As I've stated earlier in the post I have only used receivers in the past, and have never owned an amp. I have been into Polk speakers for several years and have been happy with their products and their great customer service. None of my friends have amps, the closest thing is a Bose system ( I won't go there ) This means I really don't have a baseline except for the Onkyo receivers I've used. The Emotiva does sound better than what I have had. On a couple of occasions I have gotten up to turn off my subs when listening to 2 channe sacd's to find they weren't on. I even unplugged them to be sure. I have never had as much sound or bass coming from the RT55i's. I KNOW the amp is a step up for me, but maybe not the best direction. I have only had it a couple days so I still can return it if I need to.

I have a Parasound HCA1000A coming (bought used) I plan to compare it to the Emotiva.

hainey9, what is your opinion of the Parasound?? Do you have any experience with them??

I appreciate everyone's input on the and really want to hear from people who have heard an Emo and can report how they compare to others they have listened to.

I can't go with the very best or expensive amp such as the $83,000.00 suggestion earlier and I seriously doubt that most here could.

:confused:Comparing the same logic to speakers: there are much more expensive speakers out there than Polk and I'm sure some are much better but I am happy with the Polks. I am trying to do the same thing with the amp decision; I probably won't end up with the best amp, but hopefully I will get the best one possible for my money.

:)Thanks to everyone again!!:)

And along the way we may reach the big 1000:eek:

Sorry about the Boulder confusion,I only mentioned it as a good way to not have too many saying how it don't cost enough to be good blah blah....I suppose someone would come along and tell us how they are overpriced for what you get.The Boulder would be ridiculous to hook to any Polk,as Polks are about the same as Emotiva,good product,great price.You sound like a nice level headed guy,I think your own opinion would have plenty value,just as much to your ears as any knowitall.

I've had a few Parasound amps1205 and 1500 (I think it was),very nice amps for the money,maybe bested my Rotel 1075 and 1080(which were also good)I don't think the 1000 is up to the same standard but hard to believe it would not be pretty good.It's too bad we can't do a blind test for everyone that said this amp sounds so much better than that,I think we'd all get a good laugh and learn more than every word in this thread.Good luck

Also,just remember the reason bose is so popular to the masses is WORDS,what people think,not performance,ahh the power of words.I'm just as happy with my Emo amp as most any I've owned,which is many,many amps,over many,many years,and I need no confirmation.

[metal83]

Me too, I would still like to audition an ADCOM, And ROTEL AS WELL.

I've been seeing some Adcoms pretty cheap on Audiogon. And there is a nice Rotel in the classifieds as we speak.

[Toolfan66]

The XPA-3 was my first Amp as well. It definitely made a difference over an AVR. Watching movies sounds great, but 2 channel music on the other hand, seems to leave something to be desired. I "need" to try one of those Sunfire amps, and as soon as i can find one worth buying (price and condition wise), i'll be all over it. But like i said in another post, i'll have to sell my XPA-3 to do so, not sure how easy that's going to be.


I want to be first on that list, My brother-n-law wants one.

[metal83]

I want to be first on that list, My brother-n-law wants one.

I'll give you first dibs on it.

[vmaxer]

hainey9 - I didn't take it as you trying to run anyting into the ground, I want to hear all opinions, good or bad. This is a learning experience for me, I truly appreciate all feedback. It is tough to now what is good, better, or best when you have nothing to compare to. Why would I not want to listen to people who have listened to many amps and are willing to share their knowledge??

Moe, I am level headed most of the time, when I chew tobacco the juice runs out both sides of my mouth pretty even.:cool:

[vmaxer]

Moe, which mo do you have??

[mmadden28]

It was the XPA-5 on my 2-channel system. I wasn't terribly impressed myself. Maybe it was a gear synergy issue, but the amp seemed to compress the dynamics and play everything loud and the soundstage sucked back into the speakers. To me it was as if we started playing MP3's instead of HDCD.

I wasn't a big fan, but at the same time, the XPA-5 probably sounds awesome to somebody who is making the move from an AVR. I agree with Brocks comments regarding pricepoint, underwhelmingness, etc.....

Thanks for the response.
Sorry for the long reply here...:o

I have the XPA-5 on my HT rig and I think it sounds great. Granted I can't really compare it much to other HT amps, but I can pick out when something sounds like crap to my ears, and whether or not the end result is satisfying or not. I try very hard to not deceive myself into hearing an improvement when making a change in my gear. I expect the change, if any, to be reproducible and demonstratable(?) to others. Additionally, if it doesn't sound right to me, I'll admit it. I won't ignore it because I spent money on the gear.

When I first put the XPA-5 in the mix I originally wasn't wowed, especially for music (2 ch or MC). It certainly sounded better but I expected more. Then again I also heard many reports of the RTi series sounding bright (esp for certain styles of music) and that is one of the things that I attributed my lack of satisfaction to. Another factor I considered was that my room is not acoustically ideal.

It was some time later and a few little changes here and there that really made a difference, such as changing the speaker positions just slightly, running a new dedicated AC line, upgrading a power cord here and there, etc. I am not sure what one change made a difference or if it were several, but now I think it sounds awesome. Watching TV has taken on a whole new level, even commercials sounds good (my wife keeps giving me the impatient evil eye every time I stop to watch one :o ) I am expecting even more improvement when I finally replace my interconnects and speaker cables. Even my wife finally admits its sounds good.

I am still not completely happy with respect to certain music styles (metal, etc.) and I still feel that is because of the bright sounding RTi's (the same sounds much better on my LSi9s when on this amp). Other music sounds pretty damn good (Dire Straits, classical, The Who, Dylan, etc) esp in MC. Real damn good.

I bought the XPA-2 because the reviews indicated that it was a different animal than the other XPA series. Another level and much more geared toward music. The XPA-1 (differential ref mono) and the RPA series (class H) are other higher levels in the lineup even more geared toward musicality than the XPA-2. The XPA-3 and XPA-5 are, in fact, primarily geared towards HT use and many have said the same even on Emotiva's forum. So there are several levels of amps to choose from. Even Polk has several levels of speakers, from the low end to the high end of the lines. I have a pair of Polk Computer speakers-I think they are about 5 inches tall--They sound awful next to my RTi12's, but I don't dismiss/rate the entire brand based on one product from a lineup.

I haven't done any organized critical listening with all the amps and ICs, and power cables, etc. against each other, but in one session, I had a hard time distinguishing much of a difference between the XPA-2 and the Odyssey Khartago Extreme SE. Maybe I don't have the 'ear' or maybe I don't know what to listen for or maybe my gear is not all setup right, or perhaps maybe they are actually similar--Of course I am still collecting my source gear and music, so my subjective judgment is reserved. I also have a Carver, an NHT, and a Cambridge to play with still. I've been buying different amps in an effort to see if I can in fact hear a difference or not.

I do not consider myself a fan-boy. I like to keep my mind open and remain impartial and open to change and not base my decisions on either fanboy comments, or naysayers alike. If somebody were to demonstrate to me that one amp was totally better than another amp and it was enough to really wow me and within a reasonable budget, I'd consider changing my gear. I'm not stuck on any one brand or style (SS, tube, hybrid)

If the opportunity ever comes up to allow others to audition the amps I have, I am open to it as well. This means that if I have somebody over, I'll move the amps around the house, or I'll pack the amp(s) in the car and bring them with me, I'm game for it. I am always looking to hear what others subjectively have to say, esp on gear and rooms different than my own.

Everything is subjective and I agree that synergy (the rest of the gear and the room) is key.

v/r
Madden

[vmaxer]

mmadden28, Is the XPA2 better/worsr than the XPA3?? I have considered getting it for the front left and right if it is better for 2 channel music?? It seems you have a lot of experience in different amps so what is your favorite one thus far??

[ND13]

How has this thread devolved into a discussion about Emotiva products?:rolleyes: I mean, come on, let's keep it on the subject already.

Let's get it back on track before it hits 800 posts.

[xcapri79]

How has this thread devolved into a discussion about Emotiva products?:rolleyes: I mean, come on, let's keep it on the subject already.

Let's get it back on track before it hits 800 posts.

That is what the Emotiva story is all about. They are so similar to Polk Audio, which we all love, cause that's why we are here.

[heiney9]

That is what the Emotiva story is all about. They are so similar to Polk Audio, which we all love, cause that's why we are here.

Emo is NOTHING like Polk Audio................not even close. :rolleyes:

I want some PIE

Boston Creme sounds good.

[ND13]

That is what the Emotiva story is all about. They are so similar to Polk Audio, which we all love, cause that's why we are here.


UUMMMKAAY!!!!:confused::rolleyes:

[mmadden28]

mmadden28, Is the XPA2 better/worsr than the XPA3?? I have considered getting it for the front left and right if it is better for 2 channel music?? It seems you have a lot of experience in different amps so what is your favorite one thus far??

I haven't done my side by side comparisons between the XPA-2 and the XPA-5 (essentially the same as the XPA-3) yet, but the XPA-2 is built/engineered differently than the XPA-3/5 and is rated and has been reviewed many times as being much better suited for music. However if I were to mix it up with Emo amps, I would put the XPA-2 ahead of the XPA 3. The only problem with using the XPA-2 for the mains in a HT setup is the Center channel which is just as important, if not more so, than the R & L. But I've heard about many satisfied people using an XPA-2 on the mains and an XPA-3 or XPA-5 to fill out the rest.

Sorry I can't provide anything more definitive at this time. Check out the reviews at Emotivalounge.com. You will actually still find some unbiased reviews adn thorough reviews there.

By the way, I don't have a lot of experience with a lot of different amps yet, I just have a few that I have yet to do proper comparisons between (just been too busy). I expect to though gain more insight as I continue my audio journey.

Sorry to take the thread off topic, back to the banter. :p;)

[F1nut]

Poo nuggets.

[Disc Jockey]

Boston Creme sounds good.

Just bought one from the Dutch bakery for my wife's b-day. Come on over!

[Kex]

... Let's get it back on track before it hits 800 posts.Too late! The next one will do it!

[metal83]

800!

That Boston Creme Pie sounds nice....;)

[ben62670]

Well my buddy Jerry has an EMO 5 channel amp. He is using 2 channels to drive a pair of tweeters only. The tweeters are 4ohms with an RE of 2.9 The EMO goes into protection driving them to high volumes. My Adcom's never skipped a beat. I can't recommend Emo's 5 channel amps for 4ohm speakers if they can't handle driving a pair of tweeters properly:( LSI owners should consider used Adcom or Parasound for amps.

[metal83]

Well my buddy Jerry has an EMO 5 channel amp. He is using 2 channels to drive a pair of tweeters only. The tweeters are 4ohms with an RE of 2.9 The EMO goes into protection driving them to high volumes. My Adcom's never skipped a beat. I can't recommend Emo's 5 channel amps for 4ohm speakers if they can't handle driving a pair of tweeters properly:( LSI owners should consider used Adcom or Parasound for amps.

That sucks!
But in all honesty I can't say i'm surprised. My XPA-5 was faulty out of the box so I sent it back.
And there has been a rash of people with issues over on the Emotiva Lounge.

[Kex]

Look this is just one person's opinion.......mine. I'm truly not trying to run anyone's gear or choices into the ground. I know there is better than what I own too. I just feel that all the praise isn't exactly warranted because I have heard amps (used) that cost 1/2 of an Emo that I feel are more musical, etc. ...This was my sentiment exactly, after I tried Emotiva. It's only my opinion, but it seems to seriously annoy some people every time I mention it, even when I point out that I only tried the LPA-1, not the XPA series.

Nonetheless, if you read the Audioholics review of the LMC-1 & LPA-1, which I owned brieflly, it describes exactly what most people expect to hear from their first step up to amplifiers ... not to mention a dedicated processor.

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/amplifiers/emotiva-ultra-theater-series/?searchterm=Emotiva.

Nowhere does it suggest that the 125w/ch is too little to really make a difference with some speakers, IIRC (I'm not going to read it all over again). The whole logic is that this betters much more expensive equipment and that the power output is phenomenal. I tried exactly this combination, for $800 I think at the time. It seemed cheap, but did not perform anywhere close to the lofty description in that review. Audioholics also rated build quality & finish a maximum five, which I still do not think is at all true.

At the time, I decided that something else was probably to blame in my system: either cables or source player or whatever. But then, just last year, I got the same superb bass results described by vmaxer, with four RT55 (almost identical to his RT55i) and a CS400 center, including being able to turn off the subwoofer completely and be surprised at just how much punchy and controlled bass could be thumped out of the RT55. The bass, along with the extra detail and superb dynamics, all came from a NAD receiver rated a lowly 70w/ch. The NAD currently sells at $500, including shipping, from spearitsound.com. Even if I were able to get the same results from a UPA-7 (unlikely IMO, since it's too similar to the LPA-1) or XPA-5, that would still make the NAD the better bargain for me, and most likely for others with similar tastes, equipment and priorities.

If those results can be obtained, with these efficient speakers, from a decent AVR, then why would people such as me spend $600-1,000 on an amplifier when that money might be better spent on a subwoofer upgrade, for example (which is exactly what I did)? Now why does it annoy people when I post this sort of thing? Have I some evil reason to want to mislead them and bash Emotiva? Hype is not always a true refelection of reality, and not just for Emotiva.

[Kex]

That is what the Emotiva story is all about. They are so similar to Polk Audio, which we all love, cause that's why we are here.That's a pretty bold statement, and quite untrue IMO, despite my limited knowledge of Polk. I think I know what you were trying to say (something to do with good performance & great value perhaps, combined with great customer service?), but that is to dismiss some of the technical genius of Mr. Polk when he invented such things as the Stereo Dimensional Array that many here still rave about ... or still aspire to own one day. It seems to me that Emotiva builds its success on manufacturing processes (owning a factory in China) combined with the Internet Direct model of AV123, not by inventing anything new to the world of audio with innovative technical genius.

[comfortablycurt]

That is what the Emotiva story is all about. They are so similar to Polk Audio, which we all love, cause that's why we are here.

Blasphemy.

[xcapri79]

That's a pretty bold statement, and quite untrue IMO, despite my limited knowledge of Polk. I think I know what you were trying to say (something to do with good performance & great value perhaps, combined with great customer service?), but that is to dismiss some of the technical genius of Mr. Polk when he invented such things as the Stereo Dimensional Array that many here still rave about ... or still aspire to own one day. It seems to me that Emotiva builds its success on manufacturing processes (owning a factory in China) combined with the Internet Direct model of AV123, not by inventing anything new to the world of audio with innovative technical genius.

I'm comparing them today. "Something to do with good performance & great value perhaps, combined with great customer service?", hits it pretty much bang on. Both Emotiva and Polk build their success on manufacturing in China.

Polk has both direct, as well as, and indirect internet and B&M sales. As far as I know, Emotiva just has direct internet sales. The approach there is different but has similarities. With the loss of CC, I wonder how this impacts Polk?

Today, I would discount the SDA success of Polk's past. It was great for history and advertising, but is not relevent today just as the Super Bowls won with Joe Montana are not relevent to the SF 49ers of today. The past was the past. Just look at GM and Ford.

[heiney9]

Today, I would discount the SDA success of Polk's past. It was great for history and advertising, but is not relevent today just as the Super Bowls won with Joe Montana are not relevent to the SF 49ers of today. The past was the past. Just look at GM and Ford.

What a load of crap! Have you ever even heard SDA's?

[xcapri79]

What a load of crap! Have you ever even heard SDA's?

Do you type while sitting on a toilet?
That's where the load of crap is my friend.

Did you completely read the thread?
SDA's are not relevent to Polk's success today!
They are part of Polk Audio's history.
Now if Polk brings them back with some modernization, well that is a different story, but they haven't yet.
What has Polk done recently? Any better than Emotiva?
Please read the thread before responding.

[MikeC78]

SDA's are relevant to Polk success today, they are still using SDA technology in todays current line-up.

[ben62670]

EMO has decent sound with easy to drive speakers. They don't have balls to the wall power for better gear.
Ben

[xcapri79]

SDA's are relevant to Polk success today, they are still using SDA technology in todays current line-up.
I stand corrected, they are using it in their Surroundbars.
I have their white paper on it.
http://www.polkaudio.com/downloads/whitepapers/SDA_WhitePaper.pdf
I have complimented Polk on this in the past. I call the Surroundbar "BOSE beaters" for those looking to minimize the speakers used.

However in their paper it says, "The Signature Reference Theater (SRT), the last system incorporating SDA technology and produced from 1995 to 1996...."
So other than the Surroundbar, what have they really done lately?

[MikeC78]

You need to go back and look at the "Products" tab in the upper left hand corner. There is a lot more than just the Soundbar, keep looking...

:)

[shack]

Did you completely read the thread?
SDA's are not relevent to Polk's success today!
They are part of Polk Audio's history.
Now if Polk brings them back with some modernization, well that is a different story, but they haven't yet.
What has Polk done recently? Any better than Emotiva?
Please read the thread before responding.

:rolleyes:

SDA is part of the lineage of Polk and many purchase Polk products because of that past. SDA technology exists today in the excellent surroundbar (to answer what has Polk done lately). Polk also has the new line of DSW microPro subs, the LCi IP in-walls as well as many inovations in their latest lineup of speakers. EMO has NOTHING on Polk technology and inovation.

[xcapri79]

EMO has decent sound with easy to drive speakers. They don't have balls to the wall power for better gear.
Ben

I disagree. Most gurus on this forum that I've read would agree that the Polk LSi series is hard to drive. You always hear the minimum 200wpc @ 8 ohm amp rating/300 wpc @ 4 ohm rating amplifier requirement being used.
I know that my Emotiva's drive my Polk LSi's very well. Beautiful sound is what I hear. I've read numerous posts from those who successfully power their LSi's with Emotiva.
This lead me to purchase more LSi's and more Emotiva's to drive them in other rooms. They make a nice combination.

[MikeC78]

Ok, that's all that matters... you are happy with it. Moreover, I really don't know why you are spouting of garbage about Polk, there is really no comparison to each other. Really bad analogy...

Now can we go back to eating PIE now?:)

[xcapri79]

You need to go back and look at the "Products" tab in the upper left hand corner. There is a lot more than just the Soundbar, keep looking...

:)

I'm well aware of Polk products. I own many of them - way too many to list on here. I love Polk speakers and have them in every room of my home. As far as I'm aware only the Surroundbars incorporate the SDA technology.

Note what their white paper says, to repeat what I wrote earlier, "The Signature Reference Theater (SRT), the last system incorporating SDA technology and produced from 1995 to 1996...."

[Kex]

... So other than the Surroundbar, what have they really done lately?I think you may be completelly missing the point that I was trying to make. Polk Audio, as I understand it (and I am no expert) was built on technical prowess, and the ideas of one man, which does not always guarantee stellar commercial success, unfortunately, nor has it done for Polk Audio, perhaps, although the brand still has a very substantial following, and continues to be very relevant in it's market. It seems to have had more than its fair share of glory days and not so glorious days. It seems to me that things have been mostly improving of late, though, not going the other way. Polk may yet re-invent itself and enjoy some more glory days. We shall see.

Emotiva, on the other hand, is totally enjoying its glory days at present, but seems to have been built more on manufacturing prowess and commercial dynamics, as well as a "cool factor" in its Emo Blue design. Big numbers on their specification sheets (including w/ch and unit weight), the direct sales model as developed by av123, comparativley aggressive pricing and a lot of hype, with some help from Audioholics, have all helped put them where they are today. Otherwise, they do not innovate or invent anything new AFIK.

Remember too that the scale may not be the same either. In the recent discussion thread that became legend on the AVS forum, I believe the number "4,000" (happy customers) was used by the company representative in his response to the customer service complaint that was being voiced. That is not really all that many, and certainly fewer than Polk, in my estimation.

[xcapri79]

Ok, Moreover, I really don't know why you are spouting of garbage about Polk, there is really no comparison to each other. Really bad analogy...


Someone compared BOSE to Emotiva.That is garbage.
I think that Polk and Emotiva have similarities to their approach and this has been discussed. Both produce products of good performance, offer good value, and provide good customer service in my experience. Polk is an older and much larger company, but Emotiva is getting there.

Polk Audio doesn't make the best or most expensive speakers or subwoofers, nor does Emotiva make the best or most expensive amplifiers. For me, they are where GM or Ford should be with their products.

It is unfortunate that there are a few people that feel they need to put Emotiva "in their place" with a contrarian and sometimes rude attitude.

[hearingimpared]

Did you completely read the thread?
SDA's are not relevent to Polk's success today!



I did! You don't know what you are talking about.

SDA technology is used in many of their new products it's that good.


From what I see Emu needs more pie.

[heiney9]

I disagree. Most gurus on this forum that I've read would agree that the Polk LSi series is hard to drive. You always hear the minimum 200wpc @ 8 ohm amp rating/300 wpc @ 4 ohm rating amplifier requirement being used.
I know that my Emotiva's drive my Polk LSi's very well. Beautiful sound is what I hear. I've read numerous posts from those who successfully power their LSi's with Emotiva.
This lead me to purchase more LSi's and more Emotiva's to drive them in other rooms. They make a nice combination.

I drove a pair of LSi 15's with a 30wpc amp to levels beyond what most would consider too loud. No problem! Emo is entry level HT gear with no past to draw from. I'd bet in about 2-3 years (or sooner if the quality control issues continue) Emo will be a has been........ they aren't even that innovative.

IMO, you could do lot better than EMO......I was disappointed with what I heard and I was really expecting them to sound a lot better based on all people like you and your satisfaction with them. I was very underwhelmed. I'd say at this point they compare more favorably with BOSE, in the category of over promise, under deliver.

Polk has always been an innovative company whose products under promise and over deliver. Most Polk products actually exceed many other brands and models many times for a whole lot less. Now that's something you can be very successful at...........and they have been.

H9

P.s. I'll also add the 30wpc amps sounded better by a wide margin in both dynamics, clarity, depth, width, tone, decay and naturalness compared to the 400wpc Emo.

[F1nut]

Someone compared BOSE to Emotiva.That is garbage.

You're right, garbage.

[xcapri79]

I did! You don't know what you are talking about.

SDA technology is used in many of their new products it's that good.



I stood corrected in a previous post, but recently the SDA technology only appears in their Surroundbars as was reported in the Polk white paper and discussed on here.

[comfortablycurt]

I stood corrected in a previous post, but recently the SDA technology only appears in their Surroundbars as was reported in the Polk white paper and discussed on here.

Actually, the passive radiator technology that Polk became very familiar with, through the various SDA's produced over the years, is implemented now as well. Both the DSW MicroPro series subs, and the VM20 and VM30 loudspeakers use passive radiators. If they hadn't had so much success with the PR's in the SDA's and vintage Monitor Series, they likely wouldn't be using them still.


Polk can't, and shouldn't, be compared to Emotiva. Polk, to some extent, revolutionized loudspeaker design through numerous unique designs and innovations. The SDA's and vintage Monitor series were really what put them on the map. They have many dedicated customers now, simply because of the SDA's and Monitors. To say that the SDA's have nothing to do with their current success doesn't even make sense. It has a very big part in their success.

What innovations has Emotiva made to the world of amplifier design? None. They're simply taking a tried and true method of building SS amps, using cheapo components and selling them at bargain basement prices. It's good to see an American company succeeding right now, especially with the economy the way it is. Will they still be as successful in 2-3 years? I doubt it. Time will tell though. They're just the current flavor of the week. I've still never heard one personally, and I'm sure they are great for filling certain needs, namely HT. I don't think there's ever going to be en Emo in my living room though. There certainly won't ever be one in my 2 ch. rig though.


We're getting to far off topic here though...any else for PIE?

[Kex]

... it is unfortunate that there are a few people that feel they need to put "Emotiva" in their place with a contrarian attitude.I do not understand why sharing real life experience and the results of genuine listening tests should be considered putting "Emotiva in their place with a contrarian attitude". It seems to be just impossible for Emotiva owners to see beyond the hype and specifications and give honest impressions of their gear that do not just paraphrase an Audioholics review. Others actually end up doubting the truth about Emotiva because of the way most owners seem to support their marketing claims with almost blind devotion, not because they cannot believe that anything so cheap could be vastly superior to expensive name brand gear.

Emotiva gear probably deserves a worthy place in the market, that it has surely earned, but only that, and no further. It is not a replacement for the decades of expertise and research that some other brands have built up. I just do not believe that saying an XPA-? can output 200w/ch is an unconditional guarantee of sonic nirvana.

If you will pardon the car analogy, I much prefer a good six cylinder Mercedes-Benz or BMW to a slopppy eight cylinder Hyundai Genesis, despite the stupifying specifications and marketing claims of the Hyundai (bhp, 0-60, top speed ...). Something else makes me perceive the MBZ and BMW as clearly superior vehicles for driving pleasure and long distance cruising comfort. It's not all about specifications for cars or audio IMO. I'm sure the owner of a Toyota Camry will be very happy with a new Genesis though, and it might not be a mistake for them to make this upgrade. This analogy obviously has it's limitations, however, so perhaps it's time for some more PIE after all!

[xcapri79]

Actually, the passive radiator technology that Polk became very familiar with, through the various SDA's produced over the years, is implemented now as well. Both the DSW MicroPro series subs, and the VM20 and VM30 loudspeakers use passive radiators. If they hadn't had so much success with the PR's in the SDA's and vintage Monitor Series, they likely wouldn't be using them still.


Polk can't, and shouldn't, be compared to Emotiva. Polk, to some extent, revolutionized loudspeaker design through numerous unique designs and innovations. The SDA's and vintage Monitor series were really what put them on the map. They have many dedicated customers now, simply because of the SDA's and Monitors. To say that the SDA's have nothing to do with their current success doesn't even make sense. It has a very big part in their success.

What innovations has Emotiva made to the world of amplifier design? None. They're simply taking a tried and true method of building SS amps, using cheapo components and selling them at bargain basement prices. It's good to see an American company succeeding right now, especially with the economy the way it is. Will they still be as successful in 2-3 years? I doubt it. Time will tell though. They're just the current flavor of the week. I've still never heard one personally, and I'm sure they are great for filling certain needs, namely HT. I don't think there's ever going to be en Emo in my living room though. There certainly won't ever be one in my 2 ch. rig though.


We're getting to far off topic here though...any else for PIE?

Are you saying Polk Audio invented the speaker passive radiator technology or used it as so many other speaker manufacturers have?

[cnh]

Don't mean to interrupt this thread...no offense to Hyundai or the German car makers. But I seem to remember that one of those German companies has been in the news with 'reliability issues'?

Am I wrong? As there have been a few people who've also mentioned reliability problems with Emotiva perhaps the German/Emotiva comparison is more appropriate. I am jesting...but not about the problems some high-end cars seem to have?

cnh

[heiney9]

Don't mean to interrupt this thread...no offense to Hyundai or the German car makers. But I seem to remember that one of those German companies has been in the news with 'reliability issues'?

Am I wrong? As there have been a few people who've also mentioned reliability problems with Emotiva perhaps the German/Emotiva comparison is more appropriate. I am jesting...but not about the problems some high-end cars seem to have?

cnh

atta boy......we'll certainly make it to 1K now that you've dissed German car reliability. :p.

I decided I want Muffins instead of PIE

[cnh]

Are you saying Polk Audio invented the speaker passive radiator technology or used it as so many other speaker manufacturers have?

Hear's another question as well. JBL introduced a titanium dome tweeter some time in the 80s on its studio Monitors? Polk had been developing a vapor metal deposit technique on its tweeters around that same time? JBL eventually switched to a vapor deposit laminate technology for its lower end consumer line after it developed the pure titanium dome? Did JBL borrow Polk ideas for that titanium lamintate tweeter?

As far as JBL tweeters go (at that time the pure titanium diaphragm was considered the superior design). I don't really know where I'm going here except to ask those who know...since there seems to be an invention of technology issue being debated here.

I'm also pretty sure that passive diaphragm tech. is not a Polk invention....but maybe someone can weigh in here who really 'knows' this history?

cnh

[xcapri79]

atta boy......we'll certainly make it to 1K now that you've dissed German car reliability. :p.

I decided I want Muffins instead of PIE
What haven't you dissed?

[LessisNevermore]

Curt, passive radiators are not a Polk innovation. JBL was the first to commercially produce PR speakers. Even they, did not create the concept.

http://www.audioheritage.org/html/people/may.htm

[Lowell_M]

Oooohhh..... I like Muffins

[Lowell_M]

I have created muffins, but not commercially

[cnh]

How about donuts? Because muffins can have bran and be good for you--sometimes?

cnh

[Lowell_M]

Oh yea... and Polk just developed a proprietary technology for their subwoofers that stops distortion before it starts and allows you to run the sub with it turned up to 11. That seems like a notable recent innovation.

[Lowell_M]

How about donuts? Because muffins can have bran and be good for you--sometimes?

cnh

I like that muffins keep me regular...

[shack]

Oooohhh..... I like Muffins

Mmmmmm.....Lemon poppy seed muffins...I need me one of those.

Only thing is I still have some cheesecake left...It'll keep.

Just an update....I checked with EMO today. They confirmed that I have not placed an order.

[Kex]

Oh yea... and Polk just developed a proprietary technology for their subwoofers that stops distortion before it starts and allows you to run the sub with it turned up to 11. That seems like a notable recent innovation.Well, heck! My Emotiva volume knob went from 0 to 80, and I listened plenty at 60, whereas my NAD volume knob only goes from -71 to +14, and I mostly listen at 0 or below. Now there's real power for you! I don't understand why this isn't in more Emotiva descriptions of their gear: "Our stuff will take you from 0 to 60 in no time, and beyond if you're in the mood. Others just give up before they even get started".

This is getting ridiculous, however, so I'm off to have some Coffee and Cake :D!

[mantis]

I thought I was going to get a history lesson on Emotiva but Instead I sat here and read a bunch of bitches bitchin.

[xcapri79]

Curt, passive radiators are not a Polk innovation. JBL was the first to commercially produce PR speakers. Even they, did not create the concept.

http://www.audioheritage.org/html/people/may.htm
Great article Less. This thread is actually becoming informative with some good discussion and mostly respectable argument.

[heiney9]

What haven't you dissed?

You seem to be about as clueless as they come. Oh well some get it, some don't.

I have green velvet(like red velvet cake only green) Muffins with cream cheese frosting here in honor of St. Pat's day. A girl at work made them for me and I'm a be havin'g one real soon.

[Lowell_M]

Well, heck! My Emotiva volume knob went from 0 to 80, and I listened plenty at 60, whereas my NAD volume knob only goes from -71 to +14, and I mostly listen at 0 or below. Now there's real power for you! I don't understand why this isn't in more Emotiva descriptions of their gear: "Our stuff will take you from 0 to 60 in no time, and beyond if you're in the mood. Others just give up before they even get started".

This is getting ridiculous, however, so I'm off to have some Coffee and Cake :D!

Touchy...touchy... My point was innovation.... not volume... in referrence to the comment that Polk hasn't innovated since SDA's. The new MicroPro subs are a significant innovation for Polk.

Was the "Our amps go to 11" Spinal Tap referrence lost?

We're having muffins now.. the cake is gone.

[comfortablycurt]

Are you saying Polk Audio invented the speaker passive radiator technology or used it as so many other speaker manufacturers have?


Curt, passive radiators are not a Polk innovation. JBL was the first to commercially produce PR speakers. Even they, did not create the concept.

http://www.audioheritage.org/html/people/may.htm

I never said that they invented passive radiator technology, simply that they used the technology and were very successful using it in the SDA's and Monitors. They became very experienced with the PR technology through it's very wide implementation in the SDA's and Monitors.

If it weren't for their great success with the PR technology in the past, they likely wouldn't be using it at all in their MicroPro's or VM's. It was their vast experience with PR's in the past, with the SDA's and Monitors, that allowed them to use it so efficiently in the MP's and VM's.



In my second comments in that post, about Polks innovations, I wasn't referring to the PR's, but rather SDA technology as a whole.

[BlueFox]

....a bunch of bitches bitchin.

and a partridge in a pear tree.

[Ricardo]

Damn. I never thought this thread would last. Is there a prize for the longest and most stupid thread??

[Toolfan66]

My guess is PIE or MUFFIN's

[xcapri79]

I never said that they invented passive radiator technology, simply that they used the technology and were very successful using it in the SDA's and Monitors. They became very experienced with the PR technology through it's very wide implementation in the SDA's and Monitors.

If it weren't for their great success with the PR technology in the past, they likely wouldn't be using it at all in their MicroPro's or VM's. It was their vast experience with PR's in the past, with the SDA's and Monitors, that allowed them to use it so efficiently in the MP's and VM's.



In my second comments in that post, about Polks innovations, I wasn't referring to the PR's, but rather SDA technology as a whole.

Just as Polk has applied the proven technology of others to produce and improve their speakers, so Emotiva has to produce and improve their amplifiers. I own and enjoy both.

[Face]

http://www.sfdiplomat.net/.a/6a00d83451626369e20105349d07bc970c-320wi

[xcapri79]

Damn. I never thought this thread would last. Is there a prize for the longest and most stupid thread??

It is surviving through contrarian logic.
The same type of logic that allows politicians and lawyers to survive.

[xcapri79]

You seem to be about as clueless as they come. Oh well some get it, some don't.


Happy are those who believe they are with the "get it" crowd.

[xcapri79]

http://www.sfdiplomat.net/.a/6a00d83451626369e20105349d07bc970c-320wi

"There are two things which cannot be attacked in front: ignorance and narrow-mindedness. They can only be shaken by the simple development of the contrary qualities. They will not bear discussion"- Lord John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton


Well said.

[Toolfan66]

http://www.sfdiplomat.net/.a/6a00d83451626369e20105349d07bc970c-320wi


I love it!!!! LOL,

[Face]

Well said.
Emo still sucks though. :D

[shack]

Damn. I never thought this thread would last. Is there a prize for the longest and most stupid thread??

This one is your baby. You should be SO PROUD! :D

[xcapri79]

Emo still sucks though. :D Now why would you say that after all of this?

[heiney9]

Now why would you say that after all of this?

Because it's true. Well, sucks is a strong term........I wouldn't say they suck.....but they fall pretty short, IMO.

But then as you've pointed out xcapri your opinion is the only valid one, as if we don't agree we're just contrarians.

H9

[comfortablycurt]

Just as Polk has applied the proven technology of others to produce and improve their speakers, so Emotiva has to produce and improve their amplifiers. I own and enjoy both.

Yes...I see your point, but I'm still not really seeing what you're trying to make of it.

As far as the Passive Radiators go, Polk took a pre-existing idea and applied it to their products. They used it to much greater success than many other companies ever have though. This really has nothing to do with the Emotiva argument, but rather the "SDA's have nothing to do with Polk in modern day" sentiment.

As I said already, they used the PR's with great success. Had they not been so successful with them in the past, they likely would not have been implemented into any of their newer products. So, the technology that Polk became familiar with during the SDA time period, is still being applied today. Not necessarily in the same form...but the ideas and theories are still alive.

I'm not sure what it is exactly that you're trying to argue about here, but good luck.;)

[xcapri79]

Because it's true. Well, sucks is a strong term........I wouldn't say they suck.....but they fall pretty short, IMO.

But then as you've pointed out xcapri your opinion is the only valid one, as if we don't agree we're just contrarians.

H9

Chapter 1 in the Emotiva story appears to be over.

[comfortablycurt]

Chapter 1 was over a long time ago my friend. We're probably onto chapter 12 or so now.

Sometime I need to go back through and reread this whole thread...the topic of discussion has changed quite a few times...lol

[heiney9]

Chapter 1 was over a long time ago my friend. We're probably onto chapter 12 or so now.

Sometime I need to go back through and reread this whole thread...the topic of discussion has changed quite a few times...lol

Hence my comment about some getting it and some not......he/she doesn't get it yet :rolleyes:

[daboyz]

Someday we'll all look back and laugh about this.....................

[heiney9]

Someday we'll all look back and laugh about this.....................

Actually I've been laughing quite a bit already for quite sometime......each new player that posts in this thread is waaaayyyy too serious. Pushing buttons is soooooooo easy! I worry about people sometimes who take themselves so seriously. Times are tough.....have some fun

H9

[comfortablycurt]

Someday we'll all look back and laugh about this.....................


Actually I've been laughing quite a bit already for quite sometime......each new player that posts in this thread is waaaayyyy too serious. Pushing buttons is soooooooo easy! I worry about people sometimes who take themselves so seriously. Times are tough.....have some fun

H9

x2

For some reason people keep thinking that this is a thread about Emotiva.:confused:

It's actually about PIE and it's many uses. I think Club Polk needs a section dedicated to discussion about Pie.

[mmadden28]

Non Audio deal of the day!!!!
Fake Poop 97% off (http://www.amazon.com/BWacky-Party-Pooper-Fake-Poop/dp/B0006GK9ZY/ref=pd_ts_t_8?ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games) at Amazon.


Or even more appropriate for this thread....Liquid A$$ (http://www.amazon.com/liquid-ass-Liquid/dp/B00163K10E/ref=pd_sbs_t_1) (rated 5 stars :cool: )

Still on sale-don't miss it....:rolleyes:

[shack]

I thought we had digressed to muffins :confused:

I know what I'm having for breakfast in the morning!

[comfortablycurt]

I thought we had digressed to muffins :confused:

I know what I'm having for breakfast in the morning!


mm...Muffins...

Anyone ever had the Otis Spunkmyer muffins? Those are the best...

I've gotta run to the gas station in a little bit, and I just might have to pick one of those up.:)

[mmadden28]

Toast anyone?

http://emotiva.com/images/avatars/toaster.jpg

[vmaxer]

:D:Da hot blueberry muffin with butter melted on it.................:D:D

[Disc Jockey]

It was the best darn Boston Cream Pie I've ever had. Bar none.

[xcapri79]

Chapter 1 was over a long time ago my friend. We're probably onto chapter 12 or so now.

Sometime I need to go back through and reread this whole thread...the topic of discussion has changed quite a few times...lol

The books I read generally have more than two or three pages per chapter. Twenty-nine pages make for a nice chapter in a nice novel. I thought we were a little more upscale here on Club Polk. Get it?

[mmadden28]

Ha, no this is all the reading material that can be handled at Club Polk. :p
http://www.highlights.com/images/us/local/page_specific/splash/logolarge_60.gif

[bartimus]

Toast anyone?

http://emotiva.com/images/avatars/toaster.jpg


Now that right there is funny I dont care who you are!!!!!!:eek::eek::eek:

[mrbigbluelight]

It was the best darn Boston Cream Pie I've ever had. Bar none.

I googled "Boston cream pie" once, and I ...... saw things ...... I'm never going to Boston !!



The books I read generally have more than two or three pages per chapter. Twenty-nine pages make for a nice chapter in a nice novel. I thought we were a little more upscale here on Club Polk. Get it?

Dam .... I wish I had known we had a founding member of Mensa here ! I'm going to have to call "BS", though, on that 29 pages per chapter in a nice novel thing. No way ! That's almost a whole ensyklopeedia !!!


Ha, no this is all the reading material that can be handled at Club Polk. :p
http://www.highlights.com/images/us/local/page_specific/splash/logolarge_60.gif

Ahhh ..... "Goofus" and "Gallant". The Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde of Children's Literature.


NOTE: While I'm at it, if anybody's within armshot of Danger Boy, could you give him a good clobber alongside the head ? Just tell 'em , "This is from Captain Janeway.". Thanks. I appreciate the effort.


:cool:

[moe]

Well my buddy Jerry has an EMO 5 channel amp. He is using 2 channels to drive a pair of tweeters only. The tweeters are 4ohms with an RE of 2.9 The EMO goes into protection driving them to high volumes. My Adcom's never skipped a beat. I can't recommend Emo's 5 channel amps for 4ohm speakers if they can't handle driving a pair of tweeters properly:( LSI owners should consider used Adcom or Parasound for amps.

I had an ADCOM 5500,it clipped often,I sold it,my xpa2 never clips,don't know about the xpa5.

[Dawgfish]

I think what a person likes best is an "eye of the beholder, YMMV" thing. I own other amps from Marsh, several Adcoms, Emotiva, and a Carver as a recent pickup. I actually have listened to other amps and I have a basis of comparison. I like the sound of my XPA-3's as good or better than any of the other amps. I have tried several amps with my front towers, but I keep coming back to the XPA-3 as the best sounding running my mids and tweets on my RTi12s (I am bi-amping the 12s now, I have an Adcom GFA-555 powereing the subs). I get a bigger and sweeter soundstage with the XPA than any of my other amps. Seriously I do. There are plenty of good amps out there. I try to keep an open mind though and see if something actually does sound better or not. Listen and buy what you like best. I happen to like my Emotiva, others do not I'm not offended by that. I know what sounds best to me with my system, and I'll stick with it until I find something that sounds better to me. Others will continue to run what sounds good to them. It's really as simple as that.

[shack]

The muffin I had for breakfast was EXCELLENT! It was the lemon poppy seed muffin I had been craving. Thanks to whomever mentioned muffins.

Ricardo...this is still all your fault.

[Lowell_M]

[QUOTE=Dawgfish;1028122]I happen to like my Emotiva, others do not I'm not offended by that. [QUOTE]

Well... Get offended, damn it.... otherwise this thread might end.

You should see the Muffins here in Taiwan...

edit... I'm in Taiwan for work and have a rockin Sony HTIB in my hotel room

[Ricardo]

Ricardo...this is still all your fault.

So sorry. To show how much I regret this, I will punish myself. I will not eat pie or muffins for one whole day.

[tonyb]

If there was ever an example of warrented death,this thread is it.

"No,Mr.Bond,I expect you to die"

[Lowell_M]

So sorry. To show how much I regret this, I will punish myself. I will not eat pie or muffins for one whole day.

Wait a minute. That doesn't sound like much punishment. I thought you didn't eat pie and muffins anyway? You like cake.

[Lowell_M]

I think what a person likes best is an "eye of the beholder, YMMV" thing. I own other amps from Marsh, several Adcoms, Emotiva, and a Carver as a recent pickup. I actually have listened to other amps and I have a basis of comparison. I like the sound of my XPA-3's as good or better than any of the other amps. I have tried several amps with my front towers, but I keep coming back to the XPA-3 as the best sounding running my mids and tweets on my RTi12s (I am bi-amping the 12s now, I have an Adcom GFA-555 powereing the subs). I get a bigger and sweeter soundstage with the XPA than any of my other amps. Seriously I do. There are plenty of good amps out there. I try to keep an open mind though and see if something actually does sound better or not. Listen and buy what you like best. I happen to like my Emotiva, others do not I'm not offended by that. I know what sounds best to me with my system, and I'll stick with it until I find something that sounds better to me. Others will continue to run what sounds good to them. It's really as simple as that.

By the way... That's is what this hobby should be all about is experiencing different gear and knowing what you like. Everybody's ears are different. Otherwise we'd all have Bose. It's the people with the Emo's the End All attitude that keep this thread going.

[Toolfan66]

By the way... That's is what this hobby should be all about is experiencing different gear and knowing what you like. Everybody's ears are different. Otherwise we'd all have Bose. It's the people with the Emo's the End All attitude that keep this thread going.


Hey i am an exception to this:p, I have an XPA-3 w/o the attitude. I know there is better out there, and i will soon be tring something else. with that said my emo is keeping my system going till then. :cool:

[Dawgfish]

By the way... That's is what this hobby should be all about is experiencing different gear and knowing what you like. Everybody's ears are different. Otherwise we'd all have Bose. It's the people with the Emo's the End All attitude that keep this thread going.

I couldn't agree with you more. I love tinkering with things and
finding what sounds best to me. I can never leave my system alone because I'm always playing with different cables, interconnects, speaker placement, set-up, etc and that makes it great because there is something always to look forward to.

I have been a die-hard fly fisherman and guide for many years now. In the fyfishing world, everybody has their favorites just like in the audio world. I know a lot of respected fisherman, colleagues, and fellow guides who like things totally different from me, but I trust in their abilities and capabilities totally. They know what they are doing, they just like a different action and set-up than I do. That doesn't make me disrespect their knowledge and abilities in the least bit, it's just diferent and everybody has their own tastes.

I don't pretend that Emotiva is the best stuff out there. I like it, and for what I paid for it, I am very well satisfied with it. I would love to own some Krell, Classe, Mark Levinson, Manley, McIntosh, etc, but I just can't afford it or justify it. I'll just keep on looking and hope something comes around at an obscenely good deal. Until then, I'll stick to what I can afford.

BTW, I love cake. pie, and muffins! Ricardo this is still all your fault,and Orvis is the Bose of the flyfishing world LOL.

[ben62670]

I had an ADCOM 5500,it clipped often,I sold it,my xpa2 never clips,don't know about the xpa5.

I don't really consider much of the newer Adcom's to be that great. I like the older 5xx amps, 7300, 7400, 7500, 5800, and 5802. Probably left out a few. I have never clipped an Adcom, but I have made the distortion lights flicker a few times. The XPA-2 seems to be holding its own, but the lower end 5 channel can't keep up using just 2 of the channels to drive tweeters. By the on-site ratings you would think there would be no problem. I do like the sound, and the sound stage is very good, but again I just can't recommend it from what I have seen for speakers that dip low in impedance.

[heiney9]

The muffin I had for breakfast was EXCELLENT! It was the lemon poppy seed muffin I had been craving. Thanks to whomever mentioned muffins.

Ricardo...this is still all your fault.

You're welcome!...........that Ricardo is a troublemaker. :D

[ben62670]

885...

[Kex]

Damn it. I fell for it again: all the rave reviews, just like Emotiva, and then I got disappointed ... all over again! I don't know who's writing these reviews or how they listen to anything honestly. They must be getting paid with free gear or something. Anyway, long story short: I listened to all the comments and went out and bought both pie and muffins, hoping to do an A/B blind comparison test. Well ... first off ... I couldn't even figure out how nor where to hook them up. Nanners worked best for the speakers, I suppose, 'coz you can just poke 'em right in there. The ICs from the NAD to the muffins and pie were a lot more tricky, however. I had trouble getting them to stay put. I guess I must have been hooking them up wrong. Anyway ... I turned on the NAD and it blew up, so I was pretty dang furious at this point. In my rage, I just ate all the muffins and pie :mad:.

Sorry everyone ... I just could not help myself ... and yes ... you are right: I am completely stark raving mad.

[Dawgfish]

Damn it. I fell for it again: all the rave reviews, just like Emotiva, and then I got disappointed ... all over again! I don't know who's writing these reviews or how they listen to anything honestly. They must be getting paid with free gear or something. Anyway, long story short: I listened to all the comments and went out and bought both pie and muffins, hoping to do an A/B blind comparison test. Well ... first off ... I couldn't even figure out how nor where to hook them up. Nanners worked best for the speakers, I suppose, 'coz you can just poke 'em right in there. The ICs from the NAD to the muffins and pie were a lot more tricky, however. I had trouble getting them to stay put. I guess I must have been hooking them up wrong. Anyway ... I turned on the NAD and it blew up, so I was pretty dang furious at this point. In my rage, I just ate all the muffins and pie :mad:.

Sorry everyone ... I just could not help myself ... and yes ... you are right: I am completely stark raving mad.

See there Kex, at least something good came out of it! Cake, pie, and nanners I think I saw an adult film that went along something like that.

887......yeah baby, let's take this thing to 1000.

Ben, sorry I missed your call yesterday. I was at work.......again. I'll give you a shout sometime this week. Hope all is well.

[vmaxer]

okay, where did everyone go?? Just had some PIE,,,,or was it Tequila??? Oh well, just got the Parasound HCA-1000A and I am starting to compare it to the Emo XPA-3...having fun anyway!!

[Lowell_M]

okay, where did everyone go?? Just had some PIE,,,,or was it Tequila??? Oh well, just got the Parasound HCA-1000A and I am starting to compare it to the Emo XPA-3...having fun anyway!!

Great! An actual comparison! Let us know what you think. I heard an HCA-1000A at the beginning of you audio adventure. Will be interesting to see how your impression matches with my fading memory.

[mmadden28]

... It's the people with the Emo's the End All attitude that keep this thread going.

I may have missed a few posts and have no time to review right now-please summarize--Who in this thread said(or has that attitude) that Emo is the End All (be all?) .... :confused:

[vmaxer]

I may have missed a few posts and have no time to review right now-please summarize--Who in this thread said(or has that attitude) that Emo is the End All (be all?) .... :confused:

I'm not sure anyone had that attitude. I certainly don't. I am just trying to use the knowledge within this group to get the best amp I can for my money. I am new at this so I can't provide an expert opinion on anything. I will report what my thoughts are when I have spent some time comparing the 2 amps I bought... The thought for me is that I can still send the Emo back if that is the best direction to go...

[cnh]

Ok guys,

I've got it, a blind test. Can you tell the difference between pie, cake and muffins if we put a blindfold on you.

Which is which? That ULTIMATE taste test. Can you pass?

cnh

[heiney9]

Ok guys,

I've got it, a blind test. Can you tell the difference between pie, cake and muffins if we put a blindfold on you.

Which is which? That ULTIMATE taste test. Can you pass?

cnh

Actually it's a good analogy.......all teh above use the same base ingredients (like audio components) they are just used differently for each recipe (ie, different amp designs and topologies).

I can tell the differences in sweets just like I can tell the differences in audio components and accessories. Not really hard at all.

I had Chocolate Chip cookies tonight for dessert. I wish I had some PIE

[hearingimpared]

I may have missed a few posts and have no time to review right now-please summarize--Who in this thread said(or has that attitude) that Emo is the End All (be all?) .... :confused:

It definitely wasn't you.:)

[mmadden28]

It definitely wasn't you.:)

Not sure if your being sarcastic or not, but it definitely was not me. But if somebody seems to think so please quote where I said such a thing.

[dkg999]

Damn, I was just at Wally World and forgot to pick up anything to make pie, cake, or muffins! I shouldn't of checked the progress of this thread. I'm now going to want some desert to go with my grilled halibut!

[Lowell_M]

I may have missed a few posts and have no time to review right now-please summarize--Who in this thread said(or has that attitude) that Emo is the End All (be all?) .... :confused:

I'm not sure either. I think it was Shack. He's World Class.

[dkg999]

And when I was checking this thread and turned on the TV, the show "Intervention" was on! How appropos!

[shack]

I'm not sure either. I think it was Shack. He's World Class.

Yeah...That is true.

There was no EMO gear delivered to my house today. I made a call and they said I had not ordered any. I thought that was the case...but just wanted to make sure. They hung up on me again. :rolleyes:

[Lowell_M]

yeah...that is true.

There was no emo gear delivered to my house today. I made a call and they said i had not ordered any. I thought that was the case...but just wanted to make sure. They hung up on me again. :rolleyes:

:d :d :d :d

edit... what the hell... my smily faces won't work....

[hearingimpared]

Not sure if your being sarcastic or not, but it definitely was not me. But if somebody seems to think so please quote where I said such a thing.

No sarcasm.:)

[shack]

DAMN! Robbie Shakespeare can play some fine reggae bass! It makes my NADs rock!

[disneyjoe7]

What's this 31 pages over 13k views and "NO SKIN" ;)

[Lowell_M]

DAMN! Robbie Shakespeare can play some fine reggae bass! It makes my NADs rock!

That's kinda personal...

[LessisNevermore]

That's kinda personal...

Why? Is Robbie a relative of yours?:p:

1000 before Friday.

[SKsolutions]

Holy tag soup
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"This thread already has the maximum number of tags and you are not allowed to edit any existing tags."

[comfortablycurt]

Holy tag soup
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"This thread already has the maximum number of tags and you are not allowed to edit any existing tags."

lmao! Get with the times...it's been like that for weeks now!!:p

[mmadden28]

Holy tag soup
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"This thread already has the maximum number of tags and you are not allowed to edit any existing tags."

I think that was discovered at post 365 if not sooner. :rolleyes::D

[ben62670]

909...

[mrbigbluelight]

What's this 31 pages over 13k views and "NO SKIN" ;)

Joe, I think Post #729 just might have what you're looking for.

[daboyz]

I promised Ricardo's other useless thread that I'd bump this one.

Bump

[Kex]

I promised Ricardo's other useless thread that I'd bump this one.

BumpYeah ... I read that one too ... but it's kinda headed South, if you ask me ...

[heiney9]

Who is this Ricardo guy.............does he build amps:confused: :D

[Kex]

Who is this Ricardo guy.............does he build amps:confused: :DHe seems like a bit of trouble maker, or a troll, if you ask me. I bet he's one of those excitable n00bs we've been getting lately with some wierd agenda up his sleeve. He's just increasing his post count so that he can sell stuff in the FM or somethin'.

[mrbigbluelight]

If hand squeezed and fresh (not from concentrate)


38948










lemurs make quite the refreshing beverage !






38949

[disneyjoe7]

Joe, I think Post #729 just might have what you're looking for.


God that thing is Fugly. :eek:

[dholmes]

So is Emotiva junk is that whats been said? I was interested in there amps.

[Face]

You get what you pay for.

[devani]

yes, that's very true....that same amount of money can buy reliable honda or Toyota...not american crap...

[Face]

Emo is not made in America. Take a look at what hi-fi gear is made here though, much of it is far from crap.

[devani]

I wasn talking about Honda and/or Toyota:confused::confused:.....

[Kex]

yes, that's very true....that same amount of money can buy reliable honda or Toyota...not american crap...


I wasn talking about Honda and/or Toyota:confused::confused:.....Dude ... are you having an idendity crisis? Whatever you are talking about, it's very confusing (and I'm only posting this in a ridiculous attempt to get this thing headed back towards 1,000).

[blakeh]

I tried to put tubes in my Emo but they won't light up. WTF?

[sandworms]

i can't believe i haven't posted in here yet, i really didn't notice this thread till last week ( or maybe i saw it and realized every piece of equip i own has been slammed in here one way or the other so i tried to stay away ) oh well! i know the o'lady appreciates my ht budget staying under $5k + OR -, if it were up to me i'd have all the world reference class toys out there.

[Kex]

I tried to put tubes in my Emo but they won't light up. WTF?I tried to put tubes in my Emo, but the kitchen flooded, so the wifey told me to put them right back in the dishwasher ... pronto!

[blakeh]

Nevermind... I figured it out:

http://www.stateofgrace.net/lj/tubed_emu.jpg

Tubed Emu Mod!

[Lowell_M]

i can't believe i haven't posted in here yet, i really didn't notice this thread till last week ( or maybe i saw it and realized every piece of equip i own has been slammed in here one way or the other so i tried to stay away ) oh well! i know the o'lady appreciates my ht budget staying under $5k + OR -, if it were up to me i'd have all the world reference class toys out there.

Welcome to the thread. You've got a nice rig, don't sweat this ridiculous thread.

[cnh]

Ok, I'm back! Did I miss anything...no? Ok I'll be back later...

cnh

[ND13]

Doesn't look like this will get to 1000 before the end of Friday.

[Ricardo]

Nope. Looks like it won't.

[Ricardo]

I bet those CRS's are playing Jim Croce right now.

[Ricardo]

I'm playing the "Jazz at the Pawnshop" SACD. Sounds good, but the LP's sound better. I miss my turntable. I wish those damn cables were here already.

[cnh]

Nope. Looks like it won't.

We're doing the best we can but you've all got to help out! How many of you are on line now! Post..post...post!

cnh

[Ricardo]

I'm listening to the 7B's. What an addicting sound. I wonder how would they sound with an EMO.

[Ricardo]

My daughter just called me; she's with a friend at the Twilight thing at Borders. Luckily her friend's mom volunteered to take them, or I would be there (Sorry Doug...).

[Ricardo]

Dave, I'm watching you. Help us out....

[cnh]

I heard Obama bowled a 129 recently. Do you think Emos would make good weightlifting plates...they sure weigh enough for the Governator to do dumble sets with them?

cnh

[Ricardo]

Ok. I give up. Won't make it. This is a silly thread anyway.

[daboyz]

My daughter just called me; she's with a friend at the Twilight thing at Borders. Luckily her friend's mom volunteered to take them, or I would be there (Sorry Doug...).

Me thinks that secretly Doug is there for himself and not the little one..........

[cnh]

Ricardo is right, it's silly and there are only 10 minutes left...

tomorrow?

cnh

[daboyz]

Dave, I'm watching you. Help us out....

I hope it's not me you're watching. Now I'm all paranoid and looking around for the hidden camera.:eek:

Thank God I don't smoke dope or I'd really be freaked out.

[Ricardo]

I heard Doug only goes to the flea market because he's looking for a copy of this:

http://www.amazon.com/Twilight-Special-Vinyl-Original-Soundtrack/dp/B001I82RU4

[daboyz]

All right

[Ricardo]

I hope it's not me you're watching. Now I'm all paranoid and looking around for the hidden camera.:eek:

Thank God I don't smoke dope or I'd really be freaked out.

Yes it was you, and you're still there.

[Kex]

Nope. Looks like it won't.Eh? ... What was that? ...

(I'm a bit deaf ya know!)

[daboyz]

I will

[Ricardo]

Who knows, maybe it does get to 1,000 today, Illinois time.

[daboyz]

Damn,you guys are messing with my run on sentence that was going to last for about 50 posts.

[cnh]

Good thinking. My wife just flew to Chicago from Logan. I'm in for Central time.

cnh

[Ricardo]

Music is good, I still have 1/2 a bottle of wine to drink, and have to wait for my daughter, so why not.

[daboyz]

I've got an hour and 3 mins. Either I go listen to the Bada or I post whore here.

[cnh]

I think

[Kex]

Who knows, maybe it does get to 1,000 today, Illinois time.It's not quite twenty-three hundred hours down hear in L.A. ... Does that mean that those of us in California might win something, if we make it to 1,000 before midnight in our time zone?

[Ricardo]

What a crazy week this has been. The worst part is that this weekend I need to finish cleaning/sealing the deck. And guess what, I might need to mow the lawn already!!!

[Kex]

Music is good, I still have 1/2 a bottle of wine to drink, ...I've got one of those too, but it isn't very good, so I'm not in a hurry to drink it ...

[daboyz]

Ricardo

By the way,thanks for the push to get the Bada. One beautiful cdp. I need to get another set of IC's so I can A/B between the tube and the SS outputs on the fly. Did you ever try?

[cnh]

It's only fitting that my 500th post should be on the EPIC Thread, will this story go Nobel?
I hope so.


cnh

[Ricardo]

That's the only thing I like about winter; no mowing. Just the occasional shoveling.

[Keiko]

It's not quite twenty-three hundred hours down hear in L.A. ... Does that mean that those of us in California might win something, if we make it to 1,000 before midnight in our time zone?
You might win a PIE. :D

[Kex]

Hey guys ... did you notice that there are four of us reading this thread right now? I think TOOL might be the only one that actually (still) owns and Emu. Unless cnh does too ... but I can't remember about him ...

[Ricardo]

I never tried the SS output for too long. Did you already put the scratch on the back of the player? You could even blame the wifey if you find her near the rig...

[Kex]

You might win a PIE. :DDude (you are a dude, I hope), will you be shipping that from Hawaii, or are you just hoping that you win the prize for yourself, on an even later time zone?

[daboyz]

Hey guys ... did you notice that there are four of us reading this thread right now? I think TOOL might be the only one that actually (still) owns and Emu. Unless cnh does too ... but I can't remember about him ...

Yup,just us losers keeping a crap thread alive...................













We RULE:D:D

[Ricardo]

There's Tool again; he might decide to say something.

[cnh]

What you've never used a Snow AX. Up here ice never melts...ice chopping becomes....well you know

[Kex]

Hey guys ... did you notice that there are four of us reading this thread right now? I think TOOL might be the only one that actually (still) owns and Emu. Unless cnh does too ... but I can't remember about him ...Oh no! We may have lost TOOL! Did I piss him off or something? Maybe it was calling his Emo an Emu? I don't get it ... people call NADS their nads all the time, and I don't get offended ...

Edit ... looks like he is back ... so he must have forgiven me!

[daboyz]

I never tried the SS output for too long. Did you already put the scratch on the back of the player? You could even blame the wifey if you find her near the rig...

No scratch,my friend. This bad dog is staying pristine and in the rig. I'll blame her for something else.;)

[daboyz]

Oh no! We may have lost TOOL! Did I piss him off or something? Maybe it was calling his Emo an Emu? I don't get it ... people call NADS their nads all the time, and I don't get offended ...

Edit ... looks like he is back ... so he must have forgiven me!

Probably because they are nads...................

[cnh]

Cnh just bought an Adcom on Audiogon...

[Ricardo]

Not that much snow around Cincinnati. Once I had an inch or so of ice in the driveway. Hated that day.

[Toolfan66]

I have never been to the Emotiva Lounge Forum, I just wonder if this has made it that way. If so i wonder what the EMO guys have had to say.

[Kex]

Here comes metal83. He owns one of these things, IIRC. What's he going to say?

I can't believe we are expecting to make thirty or so more posts of crapola just to get this to 1,000. The other guys will hate us for it when they wade through all our sh!t tomorrow morning ...

[Kex]

Cnh just bought an Adcom on Audiogon...You're drunk!

[Ricardo]

Cool Cnh; I am trying to stay away from Audiogon. Too many good deals these days.

[daboyz]

You wusses down in Ohio freak over the littlest things. An inch of ice? Just another day up here.:)

[cnh]

Good point Tool,

What happened with the Pioneer 07?

cnh

[Ricardo]

Damn. We actually might make it.

[daboyz]

Cnh just bought an Adcom on Audiogon...

Which one?

[Kex]

Lost TOOL again ... he does seem to like to keep us guessing! I wonder if he's the same way with the ladies ...

[daboyz]

Hold on guys,I gotta grab another brew......................................

[Ricardo]

Watched The Punisher today. What a stupid movie.

[cnh]

Tool is ok and this is all in good fun in any case. Now I'm wondering if I should actually peruse the Emo site to see if he might be right!

cnh

[cnh]

We're definitely going to make it before Chicago time Keiko.

cnh

[daboyz]

Watched The Punisher today. What a stupid movie.

Agreeable,you can never get that time back.

[Kex]

Hold on guys,I gotta grab another brew......................................Sh!t! Now I'm going to have to get some whine ... I mean wine as well ... but I really don't like it. The claims were too good to be true ... a bit like some other brand I know ... E something or other ...

j/k ...

[daboyz]

What's up with Emo "Lounge". :confused:

[Ricardo]

I'm having a nice Shiraz. Chilean. Cheap.

[cnh]

Where's Curt, he's good for at least a 100 posts a day!

cnh

[Kex]

We're definitely going to make it before Chicago time Keiko.

cnhFunny that Keiko should be Keiko. The guys that gave me the nickname "Kex" sometimes call me "Keikos" too ...

[daboyz]

Ricardo - Did you never feel the urge to try the SS out?

[metal83]

Watched The Punisher today. What a stupid movie.

I liked the action, but the dialog was horrible!

[cnh]

Get the champagne ready...I have my fluted glass..

[Kex]

I'm having a nice Shiraz. Chilean. Cheap.Didn't even know they were into Shiraz (Syrah). Malbec is what made it big down there, or was that Argentina I'm thinking about. Mine is a Californian Merlot/Cabernet Franc from Trader Joe's. Not one of their better choices (and they do have some good ones).

[metal83]

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[daboyz]

Where's Curt, he's good for at least a 100 posts a day!

cnh

I believe it's warmer and Curt is actually working again. He won't have so much time on his hands.

[cnh]

I hear when we get to 1000 we get a free meal at Emo HQs.

cnh

[Kex]

I liked the action, but the dialog was horrible!Aha! Our man "metal" has the mettle to take us all the way! That's Shakespeare don't ya know?!

[daboyz]

I like a good Ausbruch......

[metal83]

Almost

[Ricardo]

He he he. I bet you were all trying to hit this one.