View Full Version : burn in time for MIT Shotguns?
Norm Apter
02-12-2009, 02:10 AM
I picked up a second set of MIT Shotgun S-3s on A-gon today. Unlike the pair I got last week, it appears that this pair will not be fully burned in. The seller informed me that he is the first owner and has put about 30-40 hours on them.
Anyone know of a ballpark figure for the number of hours for complete burn in for these cables? I did a brief search on MIT's website but couldn't find anything.
Norm
Norm Apter
02-12-2009, 02:04 PM
2 days=75%
2 weeks=100%
Just to clarify -- when you say 2 days, do you mean 2 days continuously playing (i.e. 48 hours), or -- if not -- based on how many hours per day?
hearingimpared
02-12-2009, 02:12 PM
2 days=75%
2 weeks=100%
Mine took at little longer more like 2 1/2 weeks.
hearingimpared
02-12-2009, 02:15 PM
Just to clarify -- when you say 2 days, do you mean 2 days continuously playing (i.e. 48 hours), or -- if not -- based on how many hours per day?
Continuously running.
reeltrouble1
02-12-2009, 02:18 PM
yes, but.........
they continue to burn in until they are...........well, burnt.
RT1
ben62670
02-12-2009, 02:44 PM
The best way to burn cables is to install them between a CDP, and a pre. The CDP puts out full voltage, and you need not have to have the pre truned on;)
Enjoy.
Ben
hearingimpared
02-12-2009, 03:24 PM
Don't forget to play a full range piece of music repeatedly.
zingo
02-12-2009, 04:40 PM
The best way to burn cables is to install them between a CDP, and a pre. The CDP puts out full voltage, and you need not have to have the pre truned on;)
Enjoy.
Ben
I like this idea Ben! I'll have to try that with my next pair.
F1nut
02-13-2009, 12:26 AM
200 to 400 hours to reach full burn in.
The seller informed me that he is the first owner and has put about 30-40 hours on them.
Is he sellling them because he didn't like the sound?
dorokusai
02-13-2009, 12:28 AM
I would say 2-3 months.
Norm Apter
02-13-2009, 02:51 AM
Is he sellling them because he didn't like the sound?
No, it doesn't appear so.
In an e-mail exchange we had yesterday, I asked the seller about his equipment. Though he didn't confirm his next move, I am assuming that he is simply moving higher up in the MIT food chain. Here's what he listed as the components of his system. Shoot, I'm totally unaware of this kind of gear but I'm thinking it must be some top notch stuff:
"Wilson WP 7's, Pass Labs XP-10 preamp, soon to be Pass Labs XA 30.5 amp, Meridian G08 CD, and MIT Magnum M1 cables"
Magnums are higher up than Shotguns, right?
Norm Apter
02-13-2009, 02:54 AM
Don't forget to play a full range piece of music repeatedly.
By this, do you mean something symphonic in quality? In other words, music that has both high highs and low lows?
F1nut
02-13-2009, 03:46 AM
Ok, if he's running Magnum M1 speaker cables, then he'd want to run M1 IC's to get the full benefit.
Lasareath
02-13-2009, 08:36 AM
By this, do you mean something symphonic in quality? In other words, music that has both high highs and low lows?
Something that pushes your system to the max
hearingimpared
02-13-2009, 01:16 PM
By this, do you mean something symphonic in quality? In other words, music that has both high highs and low lows?
That would be ideal but it doesn't have to be symphonic it could be anything that covers a wide spectrum.
inspiredsports
02-13-2009, 03:57 PM
48 hours for 75% and 336 hours for 100%, driven by dynamic range source like music or an IsoTek System Rejuvenation and Enhancement Disc. Matching IC's and Cables by product line and number is the best solution.
In my opionion, the IC's probably yield 60% of the improvement, and Speaker Interface Cables 40%.
I just finished burning in AVt-2's and they actually got sweeter up to 500 hours, and they are truly amazing and I believe, underated Cables. I'm moving to the next level and just bought new Shotgun S2's that should arrive on Tuesday. I bought extras to get at what I wanted and will be listing used AVt-2's and brand new extra S2's in the forum late next week.
I can't wait until the Shotguns arrive !! : ):) :)
Erik Tracy
02-13-2009, 04:59 PM
That would be ideal but it doesn't have to be symphonic it could be anything that covers a wide spectrum.
Yoko Ono maybe? ;)
hearingimpared
02-13-2009, 05:44 PM
yoko ono maybe? ;)
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
Norm Apter
02-13-2009, 07:32 PM
Matching IC's and Cables by product line and number is the best solution. In my opionion, the IC's probably yield 60% of the improvement, and Speaker Interface Cables 40%. I can't wait until the Shotguns arrive !! : ):) :)
Are you using, or do you plan to use, MIT Shotgun speaker cables as well?
Norm Apter
02-13-2009, 07:34 PM
That question goes for the rest of you Shotgun owners, too....is it Shotguns all around (i.e. speaker cables also) if you have the ICs, or do you mix it up?
polkatese
02-13-2009, 07:43 PM
Norm, I do Shotgun 3 IC and speaker cables. If you have the budget, you should try it.
hearingimpared
02-13-2009, 09:02 PM
I use Shotgun 3 IC's but the Shotgun 750 biwire speaker wire. I'm hoping to get a pair of Magnum speaker wires in the near future.
Solumnus
02-13-2009, 09:22 PM
So, are you gonna pay more for those 30 to 40 hrs of break in? The cables HAVE to be worth more if some work is already done on them? Or am I being skeptical about speaker wire break in?
F1nut
02-13-2009, 09:26 PM
Or am I being skeptical about speaker wire break in?
That's a nice way to put it.
ben62670
02-13-2009, 09:36 PM
Good wires do require time to burn in period.
inspiredsports
02-13-2009, 10:35 PM
Are you using, or do you plan to use, MIT Shotgun speaker cables as well?
I'm matching Shotgun S2 Speaker Interface Cables with Shotgun S2 IC's.
MIT recommends using the same model number of the same product line. I'm not sure why. If I have it right, I guess the theory is that Shotgun 3 Cables with the next higher step up model Shotgun 2 IC's would not be as good as using the Shotgun 3 Cables with matching (but lesser) Shotgun 3 IC's.
ben62670
02-13-2009, 10:49 PM
I was just kidding. All cables are the same:D
hearingimpared
02-13-2009, 10:52 PM
I was just kidding. All cables are the same:D
Here we go.:p
I'm matching Shotgun S2 Speaker Interface Cables with Shotgun S2 IC's.
MIT recommends using the same model number of the same product line. I'm not sure why. If I have it right, I guess the theory is that Shotgun 3 Cables with the next higher step up model Shotgun 2 IC's would not be as good as using the Shotgun 3 Cables with matching (but lesser) Shotgun 3 IC's.
I spoke to MIT's VP a while back, I believe he mentioned that as long as the series are the same(Shotgun, AVt, etc...), you should be fine.
inspiredsports
02-14-2009, 12:53 AM
I spoke to MIT's VP a while back, I believe he mentioned that as long as the series are the same(Shotgun, AVt, etc...), you should be fine.
Got it. With that said, I have 2 rigs and am using AVt-2 IC's with both AVt-2 and EXp-1 Cables. I've swapped several combinations of speakers, wires and components, and both have delivered excellent results. I wonder if the matching becomes more and more important with the higher series cables?
dorokusai
02-14-2009, 02:23 AM
If you hear changes within the same MIT lineup, e.g. Shotgun S3 vs Shotgun S1....you're borderline retarded. I'm an MIT subscriber but the model lines make no sense.
beardog03
02-14-2009, 03:05 AM
I used to have S1 & S3`s for I/C`s and sold them to finance some brand new `08 S1`s...
I am going to be getting S1 speak cable when I get the $$ together...
at the moment I am using AQ Bedrock bi-wire speak cable, and although it does sound real good, I am sure once I put the MIT shotgun speaker cable in the mix it will sound sooo much better..
my new S1`s took some time to really break in, but I could really, and I mean REALLY hear the difference after a few weeks of solid playing....they do get better with age
Takes some patience , but it`s totally worth it
The guy who had your cables first probably didn`t give them time to settle in and decided to move up the chain without giving it enough break in time
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