burn in time for MIT Shotguns?

[Norm Apter]

I picked up a second set of MIT Shotgun S-3s on A-gon today. Unlike the pair I got last week, it appears that this pair will not be fully burned in. The seller informed me that he is the first owner and has put about 30-40 hours on them.

Anyone know of a ballpark figure for the number of hours for complete burn in for these cables? I did a brief search on MIT's website but couldn't find anything.

Norm

[Face]

2 days=75%
2 weeks=100%

[Norm Apter]

2 days=75%
2 weeks=100%

Just to clarify -- when you say 2 days, do you mean 2 days continuously playing (i.e. 48 hours), or -- if not -- based on how many hours per day?

[hearingimpared]

2 days=75%
2 weeks=100%

Mine took at little longer more like 2 1/2 weeks.

[hearingimpared]

Just to clarify -- when you say 2 days, do you mean 2 days continuously playing (i.e. 48 hours), or -- if not -- based on how many hours per day?

Continuously running.

[reeltrouble1]

yes, but.........

they continue to burn in until they are...........well, burnt.

RT1

[ben62670]

The best way to burn cables is to install them between a CDP, and a pre. The CDP puts out full voltage, and you need not have to have the pre truned on;)
Enjoy.
Ben

[hearingimpared]

Don't forget to play a full range piece of music repeatedly.

[zingo]

The best way to burn cables is to install them between a CDP, and a pre. The CDP puts out full voltage, and you need not have to have the pre truned on;)
Enjoy.
Ben

I like this idea Ben! I'll have to try that with my next pair.

[F1nut]

200 to 400 hours to reach full burn in.


The seller informed me that he is the first owner and has put about 30-40 hours on them.

Is he sellling them because he didn't like the sound?

[dorokusai]

I would say 2-3 months.

[Norm Apter]

Is he sellling them because he didn't like the sound?

No, it doesn't appear so.

In an e-mail exchange we had yesterday, I asked the seller about his equipment. Though he didn't confirm his next move, I am assuming that he is simply moving higher up in the MIT food chain. Here's what he listed as the components of his system. Shoot, I'm totally unaware of this kind of gear but I'm thinking it must be some top notch stuff:

"Wilson WP 7's, Pass Labs XP-10 preamp, soon to be Pass Labs XA 30.5 amp, Meridian G08 CD, and MIT Magnum M1 cables"

Magnums are higher up than Shotguns, right?

[Norm Apter]

Don't forget to play a full range piece of music repeatedly.

By this, do you mean something symphonic in quality? In other words, music that has both high highs and low lows?

[F1nut]

Ok, if he's running Magnum M1 speaker cables, then he'd want to run M1 IC's to get the full benefit.

[Lasareath]

By this, do you mean something symphonic in quality? In other words, music that has both high highs and low lows?


Something that pushes your system to the max

[hearingimpared]

By this, do you mean something symphonic in quality? In other words, music that has both high highs and low lows?

That would be ideal but it doesn't have to be symphonic it could be anything that covers a wide spectrum.

[inspiredsports]

48 hours for 75% and 336 hours for 100%, driven by dynamic range source like music or an IsoTek System Rejuvenation and Enhancement Disc. Matching IC's and Cables by product line and number is the best solution.

In my opionion, the IC's probably yield 60% of the improvement, and Speaker Interface Cables 40%.

I just finished burning in AVt-2's and they actually got sweeter up to 500 hours, and they are truly amazing and I believe, underated Cables. I'm moving to the next level and just bought new Shotgun S2's that should arrive on Tuesday. I bought extras to get at what I wanted and will be listing used AVt-2's and brand new extra S2's in the forum late next week.

I can't wait until the Shotguns arrive !! : ):) :)

[Erik Tracy]

That would be ideal but it doesn't have to be symphonic it could be anything that covers a wide spectrum.

Yoko Ono maybe? ;)

[hearingimpared]

yoko ono maybe? ;)

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

[Norm Apter]

Matching IC's and Cables by product line and number is the best solution. In my opionion, the IC's probably yield 60% of the improvement, and Speaker Interface Cables 40%. I can't wait until the Shotguns arrive !! : ):) :)

Are you using, or do you plan to use, MIT Shotgun speaker cables as well?

[Norm Apter]

That question goes for the rest of you Shotgun owners, too....is it Shotguns all around (i.e. speaker cables also) if you have the ICs, or do you mix it up?

[polkatese]

Norm, I do Shotgun 3 IC and speaker cables. If you have the budget, you should try it.

[hearingimpared]

I use Shotgun 3 IC's but the Shotgun 750 biwire speaker wire. I'm hoping to get a pair of Magnum speaker wires in the near future.

[Solumnus]

So, are you gonna pay more for those 30 to 40 hrs of break in? The cables HAVE to be worth more if some work is already done on them? Or am I being skeptical about speaker wire break in?

[F1nut]

Or am I being skeptical about speaker wire break in?


That's a nice way to put it.

[ben62670]

Good wires do require time to burn in period.

[inspiredsports]

Are you using, or do you plan to use, MIT Shotgun speaker cables as well?

I'm matching Shotgun S2 Speaker Interface Cables with Shotgun S2 IC's.

MIT recommends using the same model number of the same product line. I'm not sure why. If I have it right, I guess the theory is that Shotgun 3 Cables with the next higher step up model Shotgun 2 IC's would not be as good as using the Shotgun 3 Cables with matching (but lesser) Shotgun 3 IC's.

[ben62670]

I was just kidding. All cables are the same:D

[hearingimpared]

I was just kidding. All cables are the same:D

Here we go.:p

[Face]

I'm matching Shotgun S2 Speaker Interface Cables with Shotgun S2 IC's.

MIT recommends using the same model number of the same product line. I'm not sure why. If I have it right, I guess the theory is that Shotgun 3 Cables with the next higher step up model Shotgun 2 IC's would not be as good as using the Shotgun 3 Cables with matching (but lesser) Shotgun 3 IC's.

I spoke to MIT's VP a while back, I believe he mentioned that as long as the series are the same(Shotgun, AVt, etc...), you should be fine.

[inspiredsports]

I spoke to MIT's VP a while back, I believe he mentioned that as long as the series are the same(Shotgun, AVt, etc...), you should be fine.

Got it. With that said, I have 2 rigs and am using AVt-2 IC's with both AVt-2 and EXp-1 Cables. I've swapped several combinations of speakers, wires and components, and both have delivered excellent results. I wonder if the matching becomes more and more important with the higher series cables?

[dorokusai]

If you hear changes within the same MIT lineup, e.g. Shotgun S3 vs Shotgun S1....you're borderline retarded. I'm an MIT subscriber but the model lines make no sense.

[beardog03]

I used to have S1 & S3`s for I/C`s and sold them to finance some brand new `08 S1`s...

I am going to be getting S1 speak cable when I get the $$ together...

at the moment I am using AQ Bedrock bi-wire speak cable, and although it does sound real good, I am sure once I put the MIT shotgun speaker cable in the mix it will sound sooo much better..

my new S1`s took some time to really break in, but I could really, and I mean REALLY hear the difference after a few weeks of solid playing....they do get better with age

Takes some patience , but it`s totally worth it

The guy who had your cables first probably didn`t give them time to settle in and decided to move up the chain without giving it enough break in time

[bigaudiofanatic]

I just bought my first set of wires from MIT. They are a upgrade from yes monster wire. I think of this as a new thing "burn in" So my MIT S3S so far are a great deal better than the monster cable. So what should I do for the best burn in? Leave my system on for a full week? Right now they probably have 7 hours on them from movies and music.

I was reading that some leave their systems on and on a normal volume. What would be something to play over and over?

[F1nut]

Despite what you think right now, they sound terrible for the first 2 days. Full burn in takes at least 2 weeks. Simply play your system as normal with whatever material you want. Playing something on repeat will get you to the 2 week mark even faster.

[bigaudiofanatic]

Thanks F1 if they are going to get better I can not wait!

[thsmith]

They will and then you will want to replace all your cables with MIT, thats when it gets even better.

[bigaudiofanatic]

LOL I think I am a long way off from buying all those cables but one by one I will. There are 2 monster cables I am using for signals. One a fiber optic and one a coaxial. They will be the first.


I just looked up the cables I would need. Comes to almost 500 for what I need.:eek:

[thsmith]

Check out Joe Abrams at audigon.

Also, these guys have a good sale on the optical MIT cable MITCablesExpress.com

[bigaudiofanatic]

Thanks smith will save me a lot of money!

[bigaudiofanatic]

Despite what you think right now, they sound terrible for the first 2 days. Full burn in takes at least 2 weeks. Simply play your system as normal with whatever material you want. Playing something on repeat will get you to the 2 week mark even faster.

Well when your right your right. And another thing I am finally a believe in that speaker wire does help. I finally had everyone out of the house yesterday. So I sat down and gave the system a test drive. The bass OMG the bass is so much cleaner and a lot more of it. Honestly the speakers are outperforming my sub as of right now even at higher volumes it still stays clear. I love these cables. LOVE EM'

[hearingimpared]

Well when your right your right. And another thing I am finally a believe in that speaker wire does help. I finally had everyone out of the house yesterday. So I sat down and gave the system a test drive. The bass OMG the bass is so much cleaner and a lot more of it. Honestly the speakers are outperforming my sub as of right now even at higher volumes it still stays clear. I love these cables. LOVE EM'

Atta guy!!! Glad you are happy. Happy New Year.

[bigaudiofanatic]

Thanks man!

[heiney9]

I love these cables. LOVE EM'

Would we steer you wrong? ;)

Enjoy

H9

[Face]

Would we steer you wrong? ;)

Enjoy

H9No, that's what the trolls and RR are for. :D

[hearingimpared]

would we steer you wrong? ;)

enjoy

h9


no, that's what the trolls and rr are for. :d

lol!!!

[inspiredsports]

I'm firmly convinced we will never have the ability to measure and understand everything that goes on in the process of using electrons and vibrations to experience music. We just need to trust our ears.

It seems every time I introduce even 1 new wire, cable, component or even tube into my mix of seasoned components, the sound quality is immediately affected, but takes a full week to settle down and reveal its full contribution to the total synergy of the system.

My Shotguns initially took about 21 solid 24 hour days to reach their full potential.

[Jdubbs]

do you need to "burn in" all brands of speaker wire or is this just an MIT thing?

[inspiredsports]

do you need to "burn in" all brands of speaker wire or is this just an MIT thing?

Many disagree about this. Many high line component/speaker/tube/wire/cable manufacturers suggest that it takes several weeks for the components in a system to settle in.

[Face]

The difference with MIT is more subtle.