good place to find high quality wire

[cembros]

im looking for a place online to purchase some high quality interconnects to connect my rotel amp to my receiver and some bi wires to connect my amp to my lsi fronts and center speaker. I was going to purchase from my local home theater store, but they have not contacted me back with prices and products so im sick of waiting. Im not looking to go crazy but i want wires of a high quality, any recomendations are greatly apprecated

[comfortablycurt]

http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp

http://www.signalcable.com/

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/index.htm

Those places all have high quality cables, that won't break the bank. There are many happy users of their products on board here.

[Erik Tracy]

Audio Advisor carries several brands of highly regarded speaker cables from Kimber or Audioquest.

www.audioadvisor.com

[shack]

Signal Cable or Audioquest.

[thsmith]

For ICs contact CP's own ben62670. I think he does speaker wire too, not sure.

I just bought some Audioquest Type 4 which I guess is my first real upgrade speaker wire over the monoprice 12g bi-wire I am currently running.

If you are looking for cheap then suggest monoprice.com.

If you are looking for something better do a search there are p[lenty of discussions on cables here at CP. But whatever you do don't my Monster cables and brag about it here.;)

[cembros]

so i was looking through audio advisers for rca interconnects, i only need 5 of these but they only sell them in pairs meaing i would need 6, is there any way to buy them individually

[Erik Tracy]

so i was looking through audio advisers for rca interconnects, i only need 5 of these but they only sell them in pairs meaing i would need 6, is there any way to buy them individually


Depending on the cable type, audio advisor sells interconnects in singles.

If you look at the drop down selections, say for audioquest analog interconnects, lots of options are for singles.

But - maybe not all - depends on the exact cable you are looking at.

[cembros]

Depending on the cable type, audio advisor sells interconnects in singles.

If you look at the drop down selections, say for audioquest analog interconnects, lots of options are for singles.

But - maybe not all - depends on the exact cable you are looking at.

ah great, i didnt even notice that. I was looking at their bi-wire options, and damn, they are alot of loot

[TNRabbit]

http://www.monoprice.com/home/index.asp

http://www.signalcable.com/

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/index.htm

Those places all have high quality cables, that won't break the bank. There are many happy users of their products on board here.

x2...

[cembros]

ok so iv narrowed it down to either the audio quest blue racer 2 or the black mamba 2, the black mamba is 50 bucks more for the 5 cables, is it worth the upgrade???

[Erik Tracy]

ok so iv narrowed it down to either the audio quest blue racer 2 or the black mamba 2, the black mamba is 50 bucks more for the 5 cables, is it worth the upgrade???

I think so.

I run a pair of Black Mamba IIs between my avr and power amp.

ymmv,
Erik

[cembros]

I think so.

I run a pair of Black Mamba IIs between my avr and power amp.

ymmv,
Erik

would you mind me asking what amp, speakers and avr your running

[Erik Tracy]

would you mind me asking what amp, speakers and avr your running


My setup is in my signature :D

[cembros]

can anyone make some recomendation on some bi-wire speaker cable for about 200 bucks for 8ft fronts and center??

[comfortablycurt]

ok so iv narrowed it down to either the audio quest blue racer 2 or the black mamba 2, the black mamba is 50 bucks more for the 5 cables, is it worth the upgrade???

The Black Mamba is a very nice cable. That's what I'm running in between my CDP and my AVR. When I upgraded to it, it was like a night and day difference compared to the Monster I was using before. I highly recommend it.:)

[Face]

http://signalcable.com/classicspeaker.html

[cembros]

The Black Mamba is a very nice cable. That's what I'm running in between my CDP and my AVR. When I upgraded to it, it was like a night and day difference compared to the Monster I was using before. I highly recommend it.:)

thanks, i actually just ordered it. To bad my receiver is off to repair al the way in texas so ill have to wait atleast 10 business days, i cant wait. Now i just need some speaker wire as i stated in my previous posts

[fbm211]

Whats your budget for speaker cable? You can call frank at signal cable and he would custom build you whatever you want/need to match your budget.A great guy to deal with.Or better yet PM ben62670 who would do the same at a better price.

[comfortablycurt]

thanks, i actually just ordered it. To bad my receiver is off to repair al the way in texas so ill have to wait atleast 10 business days, i cant wait. Now i just need some speaker wire as i stated in my previous posts

Nice...I think you'll be very happy with that cable. I know I was.

It really helped clear my sound up...the low end was possibly a bit quieter than it was with the Monster...but it was also much punchier, and a lot more accurate. So the bass quality overall was much better.

It also really added a lot of shimmer and sparkle to the high end...and also took away some of the over bright nature of the Monster.

Midrange clarity was drastically improved as well.

Let us know how you like it when it arrives.

[wald0]

Has anybody ever tried the silver speaker cables like the Signal Cable - Silver Resolution Series (http://signalcable.com/silverresolutionspeaker.html)? I have heard that silver is super fast and reproduces the best? Is it worth the $$?

-Mike

[wald0]

Whats your budget for speaker cable? You can call frank at signal cable and he would custom build you whatever you want/need to match your budget.A great guy to deal with.Or better yet PM ben62670 who would do the same at a better price.

Speaking of this I was actually thinking of asking Ben about his silver cables.
'Course either way it always ends up being about the $$ lol

[fbm211]

I think you will be surprised at the value you would get from ben.Polkies get a VERY good deal

[cembros]

man i just asked the same question over at avs and they were far from helpfull, a bunch of assholes over there
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15831169&posted=1#post15831169
a couple of posters have recomended ben, can someone provide me move info as to what type of cable this member provides
thank you for being helpfull

[comfortablycurt]

It's silver stranded wire...and he makes both IC's and speaker wire. I don't know much beyond that though. His prices are very reasonable though. I've never tried them myself, though I plan to pick a few up sometime in the near future. There are many happy users of his cables around here.

[shack]

I love it when people like the self absorbed pricks over at the other forum give you down the road for asking a question. :rolleyes: You have evidently made up your mind to upgrade your cables. You DIDN'T ask if you SHOULD upgrade, but simply asked for resources. No only do they put you down for even considering an upgrade, they take the time to put down your speakers as well. Not everybody here agrees that cables make a difference...some do...some don't. We have our moments here but you will at least get an answer...usually in a cordial manner. The other forum...those are the guys that give this hobby a bad name IMO....all (as they put it) in the name of science. I quit wasting my time over there a long time ago. I have found little to inform or interest me there.

[dorokusai]

I recommend Signal Cable and not to worry about bi-wiring.

Unfortunately, you're going to receive different responses wherever you go....that's the way user forums operate. I would stick with the one you are most comfortable with as a member. If you don't receive a varied opinion on the subject, or question asked, it's not probably not worth your time. Always get a second opinion in audio related subjects.

[metal83]

man i just asked the same question over at avs and they were far from helpfull, a bunch of assholes over there
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15831169&posted=1#post15831169
a couple of posters have recomended ben, can someone provide me move info as to what type of cable this member provides
thank you for being helpfull

Yeah AVS is definitely full of a bunch of snobby assholes that think they know it all. Even in simple sections like the video game areas, people just like to be jerks and down everyone, a lot of internet tough guys as well. I have gotten bashed for asking questions over there myself, or bashed and talked down to (sometimes not in so many words though) because i'm trying to upgrade equipment for my polk speakers, to hell with them!

But on the flip side, there are some very nice and helpful people over there as well, but few and far between lately.


Here is another option for you to consider in regards to nice cables.

http://www.mitcablesdiscount.com/speakercables.html?vmcchk=1

I just got myself some MIT's and they made a huge improvement for me.


Club Polk is a much more friendly and helpful environment, which is the main reason i spend most of my time on here now. :D

[gdb]

If you are really itching to utilise both sets of binding posts on those speakers... I'd suggest getting another amp + another set of speaker cables...and BI-AMP !;)

[gdb]

I followed your link to your thread at avsforum, there does seem to be some douchebags over there that are a little too full of themselves!!:rolleyes:

[Mike21]

Hi Cembros

I'm with dorokusal.

In my expereince, bi-wiring has not added anything and only somtimes will bi-amping result in improvement.

I recommend that unless the Owner's Manual for your speakers specifically recommends bi-wire that you skip it.

[cembros]

ya iv just gone ahead and closed out the avs thread and i will not be returning there, i dont really care about bi-wiring, i really just want to upgrade my speaker wire and to be honest i think it would look nice if my speakers were bi wired. Maybe im superficial but asthetics are important to me, plus i have found that bi wire speaker cable are the same price as single wired which is a big reason why i was thinking bi wire

[dorokusai]

ya iv just gone ahead and closed out the avs thread and i will not be returning there, i dont really care about bi-wiring, i really just want to upgrade my speaker wire and to be honest i think it would look nice if my speakers were bi wired. Maybe im superficial but asthetics are important to me, plus i have found that bi wire speaker cable are the same price as single wired which is a big reason why i was thinking bi wire

Enjoy...worry about the tweaks later.

[gdb]

How about these ??? Good wire,price and seller !!!;)

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78737

[ben62670]

It's silver stranded wire...and he makes both IC's and speaker wire. I don't know much beyond that though. His prices are very reasonable though. I've never tried them myself, though I plan to pick a few up sometime in the near future. There are many happy users of his cables around here.

Actually I use solid single conductor wire. The stranded stuff lacked bass.
Thanks
Ben

[comfortablycurt]

Actually I use solid single strand wire. The stranded stuff lacked bass.
Thanks
Ben

Ah, my mistake. I was close though at least.

[dfranks]

Parts Express has great prices , I bought my Dayton speaker cables from them and I was very surprised with the sound difference.
(I am not afil with them)

[comfortablycurt]

Parts Express has great prices , I bought my Dayton speaker cables from them and I was very surprised with the sound difference.
(I am not afil with them)

I've been wondering how those perform. I've been thinking about getting some for my HT setup...they seem to be of pretty high quality, and the prices are very reasonable.

[metal83]

I've been wondering how those perform. I've been thinking about getting some for my HT setup...they seem to be of pretty high quality, and the prices are very reasonable.

Dude, what aren't you thinking about getting...haha lol :p

[comfortablycurt]

Dude, what aren't you thinking about getting...haha lol :p

I like to have several options...lol

As far as the wiring for my HT setup, it's between that wire or Canare 4S11...still trying to decide on it. The Canare is gonna be a bit more expensive, and I'd have to terminate it myself. Or pay more to have them terminated. I was flipping through my PE catalog the other night and saw these cables though...so they're another option right now.

edit-I just added it up. If I went with the Dayton cables, it would cost me about 135 to wire my whole HT. I could get 100 feet of the Canare 4S11 unterminated for about 130 dollars, plus another 50 bucks or so for some GLS Locking nanners. I think I'm probably gonna go with the Canare. I even get the enjoyment of terminating them myself then too.;)

Let's see how many more times I change my mind before I buy anything though...:p

[thsmith]

I followed your link to your thread at avsforum, there does seem to be some douchebags over there that are a little too full of themselves!!:rolleyes:

Not really, just penngray. Everytime he post dismissing something he always brings up that AVS is a science forum yet I have never seen him post anything that related to science.

I use to spend a lot time at AVS but the noise floor is so high I usually see what is for sell or look for LCD/Plasma setting from people who have proof of their settings.

[metal83]

Not really, just penngray. Everytime he post dismissing something he always brings up that AVS is a science forum yet I have never seen him post anything that related to science.

I use to spend a lot time at AVS but the noise floor is so high I usually see what is for sell or look for LCD/Plasma setting from people who have proof of their settings.

He's definetly not the only one on AVS like that, seems to be a lot more of his kind lately. The Masters of everything audio, or whatever section they dwell in. There are still some good people over there though as well, just gotta sift through the nonsense.

I gave up trying to talk to penngray, i even tried to end the damn bickering by saying let's agree to disagree. But ooohhh no, he just had to come back with something. Such a douche, i can't stand people like him.

[metal83]

I like to have several options...lol

As far as the wiring for my HT setup, it's between that wire or Canare 4S11...still trying to decide on it. The Canare is gonna be a bit more expensive, and I'd have to terminate it myself. Or pay more to have them terminated. I was flipping through my PE catalog the other night and saw these cables though...so they're another option right now.

edit-I just added it up. If I went with the Dayton cables, it would cost me about 135 to wire my whole HT. I could get 100 feet of the Canare 4S11 unterminated for about 130 dollars, plus another 50 bucks or so for some GLS Locking nanners. I think I'm probably gonna go with the Canare. I even get the enjoyment of terminating them myself then too.;)

Let's see how many more times I change my mind before I buy anything though...:p

LOL...That's the nice thing though, you can have all the options you want and change your mind as many times as you see fit. I do that quite a bit myself.... :D

[comfortablycurt]

LOL...That's the nice thing though, you can have all the options you want and change your mind as many times as you see fit. I do that quite a bit myself.... :D

My mind is never made up until I purchase something...and even then, I'm still wondering, "what if?". I've basically been set on the Canare for a while though. Other options keep popping up, so I'll second guess it, but I keep going back to the Canare. I need to just buy the damn stuff already...lol

[metal83]

My mind is never made up until I purchase something...and even then, I'm still wondering, "what if?". I've basically been set on the Canare for a while though. Other options keep popping up, so I'll second guess it, but I keep going back to the Canare. I need to just buy the damn stuff already...lol

The joys of being indecisive, my fiancee get's on my case about this little problem of mine all the time...."just pick something, can't you make up your mind, can't you ever just pick something and keep it for a while, you're returning that, grrrr" haha...lol :D

[comfortablycurt]

The joys of being indecisive, my fiancee get's on my case about this little problem of mine all the time...."just pick something, can't you make up your mind, can't you ever just pick something and keep it for a while, you're returning that, grrrr" haha...lol :D

Some people just don't get it...lol

I'd rather take my time and really research my options before I buy anything. I like to make sure that I get the best that I can in my price range. Whatever wire I get for the HT, odds are I'll be using it for several years to come at least, so I need to be happy with it.

I'll likely end up going the AQ Type 4 route for the 2-channel though. I'm in on a demo for some Type 4, and I'm getting close to the top of the list. So that decision will be made by a couple weeks of demo time. That always helps. Especially when an 8 foot pair of the Type 4 is going to set me back about 120-150 bucks or so. Definitely need to be happy with that purchase.

[praedet]

Well, as soon as I hit 10 posts :lol: I am going to send Ben a pm. I just got my LSI9s and LSiC, and the LSi 15s should be here in a month or two, and I need some wire ;)

[broncsrule21@]

Yeah AVS is definitely full of a bunch of snobby assholes that think they know it all. Even in simple sections like the video game areas, people just like to be jerks and down everyone, a lot of internet tough guys as well. I have gotten bashed for asking questions over there myself, or bashed and talked down to (sometimes not in so many words though) because i'm trying to upgrade equipment for my polk speakers, to hell with them!

But on the flip side, there are some very nice and helpful people over there as well, but few and far between lately.


Here is another option for you to consider in regards to nice cables.

http://www.mitcablesdiscount.com/speakercables.html?vmcchk=1

I just got myself some MIT's and they made a huge improvement for me.


Club Polk is a much more friendly and helpful environment, which is the main reason i spend most of my time on here now. :D


"friendly and helpful environment".....unless you say the "E" word

[cembros]

ok so i think i have decided on speaker wire, i want to go with this audioquest slate
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AQSLANF&variation=8SIBNBN
does anyone have any opinions on this wire

[dorokusai]

Nice wire and a great benchmark for what you do, or not do later.

[metal83]

ok so i think i have decided on speaker wire, i want to go with this audioquest slate
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=AQSLANF&variation=8SIBNBN
does anyone have any opinions on this wire

Audioquest makes great speaker cables, i haven't heard anything about the slate, but many people here seem to like the Type 4 cables they make.

[Mike21]

I have only posted 3 or 4 times on AVS and got 1 nasty comment.

What's with those people anyways? :eek:

[fbm211]

Take a look on audiogoN for great deals on used speaker cables too.

[comfortablycurt]

Take a look on audiogoN for great deals on used speaker cables too.

x2

I'm going to be getting some AQ Type 4 for my two channel rig once I get it set up. I can get a pair on Audiogon for almost half of what they cost new....so that's definitely where I'll be going.

[LessisNevermore]

Let's see how many more times I change my mind before I buy anything though...:p

http://mnagel.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/haveana-flipflop-gold.jpg

Curt, I'd suggest you get the cable from PE. I have the 12 AWG, and it's decent. Make cables one of your later upgrades, after the amp. (when you are more likely to hear any benefit):cool:

[comfortablycurt]

http://mnagel.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/haveana-flipflop-gold.jpg

Curt, I'd suggest you get the cable from PE. I have the 12 AWG, and it's decent. Make cables one of your later upgrades, after the amp. (when you are more likely to hear any benefit):cool:


So you use that PE cable eh? You say it's good? Well...I won't rule it out yet then I guess. It would save me about 50-60 bucks over the 4S11...which is always welcome.

I'll probably still stick with the Type 4 for the 2-channel rig though.

[gdb]

I bought some of these in 16' length for $25 and they're not too shabby, although the bananas could be better. I put them in my home 2ch. rig just to see what they'll do, but they're ultimately headed to my workshop rig. IMO you can't go too far wrong with these at the stupid low price they're charging.;)


http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=109-050

[LessisNevermore]

So you use that PE cable eh? You say it's good? Well...I won't rule it out yet then I guess. It would save me about 50-60 bucks over the 4S11...which is always welcome.

I'll probably still stick with the Type 4 for the 2-channel rig though.

I'm saying it's good enough for starters.....it'll get you by until you want to buy some with prettier jacketing.:D My larger point was that for now, you have bigger fish to fry, and I'd place high-grade wire later on your upgrade timeline.

[comfortablycurt]

I'm saying it's good enough for starters.....it'll get you by until you want to buy some with prettier jacketing.:D My larger point was that for now, you have bigger fish to fry, and I'd place high-grade wire later on your upgrade timeline.

Either way I go, the wire will only be temporary. It'll get upgraded to something better farther down the line. For the HT setup anyway...I think for the 2 ch. rig I'll just go ahead and get some nicer wire though. Probably AQ Type 4.

Whatever wire I end up getting for the HT setup will probably be there for a couple years, so I want to make sure it's something I won't be wanting to upgrade right away. It'll get rewired most likely after I get a pre-pro/power amp combo. Until then though, either the Canare of the Dayton wire should do just fine.

[comfortablycurt]

Dammit...what did I say? My mind has changed again:p...I think I'm going to get the Dayton stuff rather than the Canare. It's going to be cheaper, and it comes already terminated, which will save me the trouble of having to terminate it myself.

[shack]

I have tried a lot of different types of IC and speaker cables. The high dollar stuff is nice but I don't have the gear to justify it (and probably never will). The cheap stuff to my ear...sounds like cheap stuff...and I don't care what anyone thinks. If you believe that is is snake oil or voodoo...fine...I don't. I have settled on two brands I like. They have quality products, excellent reputations, good customer service and sound good to me. Signal Cable and AudioQuest. They comprise 90% of what I have now and they are the brands I will buy in the future.

[Hawkeye]

Quite a few harsh posters there. One thing I picked out of all that was you mentioned distortion somewhere. I think I'd have to agree that your wire is probably not the cause of it.

Have you tracked down the cause of it? Maybe you have since you also mention your AVR is being repaired.

While I did not care for Signal cables silver line, the customer service is great and Frank is a pleasure to work with. I don't think you could go wrong giving him a call and discussing your needs.

Gordon

[comfortablycurt]

I have tried a lot of different types of IC and speaker cables. The high dollar stuff is nice but I don't have the gear to justify it (and probably never will). The cheap stuff to my ear...sounds like cheap stuff...and I don't care what anyone thinks. If you believe that is is snake oil or voodoo...fine...I don't. I have settled on two brands I like. They have quality products, excellent reputations, good customer service and sound good to me. Signal Cable and AudioQuest. They comprise 90% of what I have now and they are the brands I will buy in the future.

I too am a fan of Audioquest...albeit a newly born one. I just got my first AQ IC a while back...and I love it. There will definitely be some more AQ products in my rig in the future.