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Alan M
02-08-2003, 06:40 PM
I'm still in the process of upgrading my pioneer HTIB and the latest addition is the psw404 to compliment the rt25i's and csi30 - still use old surrounds. I was planning on getting the $99 dls and down the road a svs or build one, but there was a decent deal on open box buy at cc, so I thought I'd give it a shot w/some creative financing. I was expecting quite a difference with the new sub, but I'm a little disappointed. I have the old sub sitting on top of it and when I switch between the two there is a difference, but it's not dramatic and I don't think justifying $300. I was hoping to feel the bass a lot more. I can still crank the volume up on the sub amp and at the receiver, but then it starts to thump w/dialoge at low volumes, and the amp does get warm. The sub is basically sitting out in the open as a corner spot isn't really an option. I bought a calibration dvd but it's useless since the dvd remote is missing, so I just used the receiver test tone w/an rs meter. The receiver is a pioneer 510. In the future I plan on getting rti38's or rti70's. I guess my question is will the sub shine w/better mains or am I asking to much from it? Thanks for the help.

goingganzo
02-08-2003, 10:34 PM
first thing depends on how long the new sub has ben played befor. subs have a break in time. when i first got my velo it was not that good i thought it was very weak. but after a week the sub hit harder. it all depends on what you want out of a sub. you can get a used sub for 300 that will blow that 404 away. the 404 is a good sub. but i just dont like the polk subs they seem weak. you need to define the sound whatyou have and what you are looking for and you will get alot beter help.

Alan M
02-09-2003, 10:21 PM
I feel like a complete dumbass now. I knew I was missing something so I pulled out the manual to my receiver and read about the 'low frequency accentuator' which cuts out 'ultra low frequencies' on dvd's. You can set set to off, 0 or 10, of course it was set at 10. There's also another setting to keep volume levels equals, avoiding surprises I guess. I turned both of those off and it was like night and day. I have another 3 weeks to decide about the sub, I'm definately happy w/it now and can focus on other upgrades.