Looking for a new TV

[pablo_rodz]

Hello, I need your thoughts. I'm looking for a new TV. I've done a lot of research, but I'm still undecided. My budget i's about $3000 - $3200 including the wall mount. I watch mostly HD TV and Movies (blue ray), no gaming. The room has 3 windows but they are covered 95% of the time, so it's not too bright in the room. I want to replace my current 55" mitsubishi rear projection tv.

I want plasma for the picture quality, but I'm not sure about the life span of plasma vs LCD. I want a tv that last more than 5 years. We watch an average of 4-6 hrs. of tv daily.

These are the Plasma sets I've been looking at;
Pioneer 6020 - but it's out of budget
Panasonic - TH-58PZ800u very good set, can be had for $2500
Samsung - PN58-550 or 650 - Blacks not as deep as the two above.

For LCD I would go with either Smasung LN52-650 or Sony XBR6 (52")

What do you guys think? what wall mounts should I look at?

Thanks to all

[MikeC78]

Since the Pioneer is out of your price range, I'd get the Panny PZ800U. I've had my Panny 8UK plasma for about 4 years now and it's still working as good as new.

[wingnut4772]

I'd save a bit for the 6020. I have one and it's the best display I have ever owned and I have been through probably 6 in the past 3 years.

[MikeC78]

I'd save a bit for the 6020. I have one and it's the best display I have ever owned and I have been through probably 6 in the past 3 years.

Save a bit?:confused:

[leroyjr1]

Samsung LCD 950, 850, 750, 650 series are all good and priced to sell.

[metal83]

Samsung LCD 950, 850, 750, 650 series are all good and priced to sell.

Can't go wrong with any of these.

[wingnut4772]

Save a bit?:confused:

Didn't you say it was out of your budget?

[wingnut4772]

Samsung LCD 950, 850, 750, 650 series are all good and priced to sell.

I have a 52" 750 in the bedroom. It's ok.

[bruss]

monprice.com has wallmounts..

[leroyjr1]

I have a 52" 750 in the bedroom. It's ok.

Samsung is the #1 selling TV for a reason. Great picture at low prices. You could buy 2 or 3 750's for what a Pioneer Elite Kuro costs.

[metal83]

I have a 52" 750 in the bedroom. It's ok.

Did you calibrate it at all, or are u just using the torch settings right out of the box?

[pablo_rodz]

Should I stick with the plasma or should I go with LCD.
Priorities are:
(1) Picture Quality
(2) life-span

[pablo_rodz]

I'd save a bit for the 6020. I have one and it's the best display I have ever owned and I have been through probably 6 in the past 3 years.

I know it's the best, but I really don't want to go over $3000. I could afford it, but I just don't want to... I would by the 5020, but I dont want anything under 52".

[MikeC78]

Didn't you say it was out of your budget?


My budget i's about $3000 - $3200 including the wall mount.


His budget, not mine.:)

[MikeC78]

Should I stick with the plasma or should I go with LCD.
Priorities are:
(1) Picture Quality
(2) life-span

Life-span is really no different between the two. With your number one priority, I'd go PLASMA for sure.

Remember, the Pioneer Kuro's have the darkest blacks of them all. I'd say the Panny is a close second.

[CaligulaPolk]

I strongly recommend 58" Panasonic Viera TH-PZ800U (http://astore.amazon.com/bludealz_hdtv-20/detail/B001DSYNB0)unit. (click the link to take you for more info) this tv is mounted on my wall, and LOVING IT!!!! Not a bad price (2500 with no tax and shipped, u save over 1 thousand dollars) and I recommend you go for it!!!! Seriously go for this tv and you wont regret at all!!

for Mount click here (http://astore.amazon.com/bludealz_e_hdtv-mounts-20/detail/B000WL6YY8)


ALL LESS 3000 dollars for sure!!!! some left money goes to hdmi or take your wife out to dinner...

[jdwmap]

For the mounts, I have been pretty happy with the quality from Peerless. There are a few online companies that ship for free and they end up being cheaper than Big Box stores.

They have a ton of different options and should be able to find exactly what you need there.

[CaligulaPolk]

I'd go PLASMA for sure.

Remember, the Pioneer Kuro's have the darkest blacks of them all. I'd say the Panny is a close second.

DAMN FOR SURE 99% close second. I m very impressed with my 58 " PZ800 colors and blacks very deep and crispy! VERY IMPRESSIVE TV!!!

[MikeC78]

DAMN FOR SURE 99% close second. I m very impressed with my 58 " PZ800 colors and blacks very deep and crispy! VERY IMPRESSIVE TV!!!

That is a very nice plasma, congrats.:)

I just wish my tv stand could hold the real estate of a display that large. I still think I did good, it will be holding the Pioneer Pro-111FD.:)

[pablo_rodz]

I strongly recommend 58" Panasonic Viera TH-PZ800U (http://astore.amazon.com/bludealz_hdtv-20/detail/B001DSYNB0)unit. (click the link to take you for more info) this tv is mounted on my wall, and LOVING IT!!!! Not a bad price (2500 with no tax and shipped, u save over 1 thousand dollars) and I recommend you go for it!!!! Seriously go for this tv and you wont regret at all!!

I've been looking at that Panasonic, I found it for $2330 shipped and no tax ;)

What about the TH-PZ850U? Are the Picture calibration upgrades worth the extra $500?


for Mount click here (http://astore.amazon.com/bludealz_e_hdtv-mounts-20/detail/B000WL6YY8)


ALL LESS 3000 dollars for sure!!!! some left money goes to hdmi or take your wife out to dinner...

Hoe do you like that mount?

[CaligulaPolk]

I've been looking at that Panasonic, I found it for $2330 shipped and no tax ;)

What about the TH-PZ850U? Are the Picture calibration upgrades worth the extra $500?



Hoe do you like that mount?

not a big difference,

my brother in law ordered that mount. he loved it, im using my old mount that i already installed 2 years ago. But, i m strongly considering this one because it can extend if you need to pull or put wires behind tv, itd be easier to pull tv and put it back without needing assistance.

[MikeC78]

I've been looking at that Panasonic, I found it for $2330 shipped and no tax ;)

What about the TH-PZ850U? Are the Picture calibration upgrades worth the extra $500?



Hoe do you like that mount?

pablo-

Check out this link. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=167

There are two active threads toward the top on both of those Panny models. There is a lot of good info that site.

[wingnut4772]

Did you calibrate it at all, or are u just using the torch settings right out of the box?

Oh you are supposed to calibrate it? I had no clue! I just left it on big box showroom settings. :rolleyes::p

Not new to his rodeo. The 750 WAS my HT display. I was never satisfied with it completely even after following the AVS forum thread. I also had some pretty severe clouding issues and Best Buy replaced my original set. There is a reason the Kuro is more money. The Samsung 750 is a decent set though for the $$$$

[CaligulaPolk]

I didnt calibrate my tv, find it no necessary to do so, it came out of the box and im using vivid settings, im verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrry satsified and no need to use DVE. I might as well try DVE and see if there better result. I DOUBT IT!!! Panny fan for life now!!

PABLO, ill jump 1 week ahead from you, YOU ARE WELCOME!!! Because you will be thanking me for the tv recommendation!!!!

[pablo_rodz]

I didnt calibrate my tv, find it no necessary to do so, it came out of the box and im using vivid settings, im verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrry satsified and no need to use DVE. I might as well try DVE and see if there better result. I DOUBT IT!!! Panny fan for life now!!

PABLO, ill jump 1 week ahead from you, YOU ARE WELCOME!!! Because you will be thanking me for the tv recommendation!!!!

LOL!!! Thanks for your help!

[Sherardp]

You say the room isnt too bright, and windows are covered. How about the Panasonic 3000U front PJ and a 92-100inch screen. With the PQ of the 3000U it will surely surpass anything else mentioned and look like a huge plasma. Its a pretty bright PJ also, so some ambient light is a non issue.

[digitalvideo]

I have the Pioneer Elite Kuro Pro-111fd, a 50", best picture quality on the market. You can get it off ebay for under $2800 now, I should have waited to get it off ebay. Even the Pioneer's lowest end plasma has deeper blacks compared to any LCD or Panasonic plasma. If you want the best, go with the Pioneer Elite Pro-111fd.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pioneer-Elite-PRO-111FD-50-Plasma-TV-NEW-UNOPENED-KURO_W0QQitemZ350169963629QQihZ022QQcategoryZ3320Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[metal83]

Oh you are supposed to calibrate it? I had no clue! I just left it on big box showroom settings. :rolleyes::p


I don't know you, and i don't know what you know or don't know. It was an honest question, didn't mean anything by it, i apologize. :rolleyes::p

[MikeC78]

I have the Pioneer Elite Kuro Pro-111fd, a 50", best picture quality on the market. You can get it off ebay for under $2800 now, I should have waited to get it off ebay. Even the Pioneer's lowest end plasma has deeper blacks compared to any LCD or Panasonic plasma. If you want the best, go with the Pioneer Elite Pro-111fd.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Pioneer-Elite-PRO-111FD-50-Plasma-TV-NEW-UNOPENED-KURO_W0QQitemZ350169963629QQihZ022QQcategoryZ3320Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Don't get it off Ebay! THey are not an authorized dealer for Pioneer Elite products and your 2 year warranty is void.

www.valueelectronics.com is an Authorized Elite Dealer and sells it for $2799 with free white glove delivery. He is an AVSforum sponsor. Great to deal with.

[wingnut4772]

I don't know you, and i don't know what you know or don't know. It was an honest question, didn't mean anything by it, i apologize. :rolleyes::p

Just don't let it happen again.

[metal83]

Just don't let it happen again.

Yes ma'am!!! :eek: :rolleyes: :D

[Conradicles]

Samsung is the #1 selling TV for a reason. Great picture at low prices. You could buy 2 or 3 750's for what a Pioneer Elite Kuro costs.

No you didn't...:eek::eek::eek:

Seems funny that I got rid of 2 Samsung's for my Pioneer...:D

Just kidding...Sammy's are great TV's

Go with Panasonic!

[leroyjr1]

No you didn't...:eek::eek::eek:

Seems funny that I got rid of 2 Samsung's for my Pioneer...:D

Just kidding...Sammy's are great TV's

Go with Panasonic!



I never said Samsung had a better picture than Pioneer just stated that a great picture and fairly priced makes them #1 in the market.

[leroyjr1]

No you didn't...:eek::eek::eek:

Seems funny that I got rid of 2 Samsung's for my Pioneer...:D

Just kidding...Sammy's are great TV's

Go with Panasonic!



My 52 inch emotiva will kick your Pioneers butt.:p

[Sherardp]

Don't get it off Ebay! THey are not an authorized dealer for Pioneer Elite products and your 2 year warranty is void.

www.valueelectronics.com is an Authorized Elite Dealer and sells it for $2799 with free white glove delivery. He is an AVSforum sponsor. Great to deal with.

Awesome CS from VE, Rob is a very good guy and takes care of the customer. Bought my SC07 from him.

[MikeC78]

Awesome CS from VE, Rob is a very good guy and takes care of the customer. Bought my SC07 from him.

Damn straight. I just took delivery of a Pioneer Elite Pro-111FD a few days ago from him.

I called up the delivery company to confirm my delivery date, which in turn found out that they were going to deliver the unit "curb-side". I said hell no, you guys were suppose to deliver the unit with two guys in home. I immediately called Robert about the issue and stated what was going on, not even ten minutes later the delivery company calls me back apologizing about the mistake and will delivery the unit via white glove immediately. Kudos to Robert, best customer service ever with a direct line to the man himself and not on hold all day with some machine.

[devani]

don't buy higher priced TV, you know the price will come down....having said that, unless you are in bright area of the house, there won't be too much difference in depth on black color.

calibraton DVD's are cheap and you can rent one from blockbuster and return it afterwards. early models have cloud problems. that's almost a thing of the past but it's not gone.

I have samsung LCD TV and it's also my computer monitor which also is my HTPC...I notice cloud when there's no source when powered on. but it's not a problem when you are watching TV or using it as computer monitor.

[pablo_rodz]

Don't get it off Ebay! THey are not an authorized dealer for Pioneer Elite products and your 2 year warranty is void.

www.valueelectronics.com is an Authorized Elite Dealer and sells it for $2799 with free white glove delivery. He is an AVSforum sponsor. Great to deal with.


That's what I thought. I will look at Valueelectronics. thanks

[pablo_rodz]

Guys what about extended warranties? I usualy don't buy them, but a $3000 purchase its different...

[MikeC78]

Guys what about extended warranties? I usualy don't buy them, but a $3000 purchase its different...

I'm going to do that myself, a couple hundred extra dollars isn't a bad deal. Robert gives an extended 3 year warranty from MACK for like an additional $275. A total of 5 years and it's in-home warranty. Thanks for reminding me, I believe you have 30 days from the purchase to grab the extended warranty.

[MSALLA]

Guys what about extended warranties? I usualy don't buy them, but a $3000 purchase its different...

I never buy the warranty but I did on my TV and I've used it. It's worth the few hundred to have that safty net. On TV's the warranty seems to cover just about anything that could go wrong.

[digitalvideo]

Don't get it off Ebay! THey are not an authorized dealer for Pioneer Elite products and your 2 year warranty is void.

www.valueelectronics.com is an Authorized Elite Dealer and sells it for $2799 with free white glove delivery. He is an AVSforum sponsor. Great to deal with.

Yup, I've bought from there too, good place to buy. I've also bought from www.dealcost.com www.vanns.com www.powersellernyc.com www.beyondplasma.com

[MikeC78]

I'm not saying you'd have any issues receiving the product, it's the warranty if you encounter issues down the road and your warranty is simply void. It's important purchasing an expensive Pioneer Elite from an authorized retailer for that reason, especially when you can get it cheaper or for about the same price from VE.

[slenap]

Hello, I need your thoughts. I'm looking for a new TV. I've done a lot of research, but I'm still undecided. My budget i's about $3000 - $3200 including the wall mount. I watch mostly HD TV and Movies (blue ray), no gaming. The room has 3 windows but they are covered 95% of the time, so it's not too bright in the room. I want to replace my current 55" mitsubishi rear projection tv.

I want plasma for the picture quality, but I'm not sure about the life span of plasma vs LCD. I want a tv that last more than 5 years. We watch an average of 4-6 hrs. of tv daily.

These are the Plasma sets I've been looking at;
Pioneer 6020 - but it's out of budget
Panasonic - TH-58PZ800u very good set, can be had for $2500
Samsung - PN58-550 or 650 - Blacks not as deep as the two above.

For LCD I would go with either Smasung LN52-650 or Sony XBR6 (52")

What do you guys think? what wall mounts should I look at?

Thanks to all

Perhaps, you might want to take a look at LCD TV ratings (http://www.smartratings.com/electronics/plasma_and_lcds). Knowing the pros and cons is also a good way of determining whether it is best or not. The expert reviews are a good source for that.

[leroyjr1]

Check out the new issue of Consumer Report. (Best Tv's)

[pablo_rodz]

Well I bit the bullet...

I just ordered the Pio Kuro Elite PDP-111FD, Can't wait!!!

I got it from Valueelectronics.com Great people to deal with...

[cnh]

Congrats....Great choice! You'll be happy.

cnh

[MikeC78]

Well I bit the bullet...

I just ordered the Pio Kuro Elite PDP-111FD, Can't wait!!!

I got it from Valueelectronics.com Great people to deal with...

Congrats!:) Let us know how you like it...

[pablo_rodz]

I will...

I should receive it in about a week. The price-matched the wall mount to what Amazon had:D

[digitalvideo]

pablo_rodz when you get the chance hook it up to a Pioneer reciever and Pioneer blu ray player, they work even better when connected together.

[mcs2000si]

I have the 58" Sammy 650 plasma and LOVE IT! I looked at the Kuro as well but it was just too much for me. Its the best TV out there but if you dont have the extra money then dont get it. Nothing worse than buyers remorse. YOu will always be happy with the TV in your budget b/c you will be able to pay your other bills. Just not worth it in these economic times. Check out this link and it will help you dial your TV in with picture settings to get it close to 6500k without paying $300 for a calibration tech to do it. Once again i love it and all of my friends hate me because my tv is so much better than theirs. One more thing. Its different when you get it home because you dont have a Kuro sitting next to it to compare it to. Seriously you will love the TV. I got mine for $2699 at best buy on a price match. they are hurting so dont settle for their ****ty sales price. good luck!

http://reviews.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatvreviews/samsung-pn58a650-review.html

-Matt