The Difference

[F1nut]

A Republican and a Democrat were walking down the street when they came to a homeless person. The Republican gave the homeless person his business card and told him to come to his business for a job. He then took twenty dollars out of his pocket and gave it to the homeless person. The Democrat was very impressed, and when they came to another homeless person, he decided to help. He walked over to the homeless person and gave him directions to the welfare office. He then reached into the Republican's pocket and got out twenty dollars. He kept 15 for administrative fees and gave the homeless person five.
Now you understand the difference between Republicans and Democrats.

[scottvamp]

That was actualy totally backwards - IMHO

[F1nut]

No Scott, welfare is the Democrat's baby.

[phuz]

Then will someone please ask G. Dubbya where the hell my job is?

[MxStYlEpOlKmAn]

I thought the Repub's was the welfare crap, thats all i hear about when we talk about this at skool?? :confused:

[TroyD]

GREAT one, F1, GREAT one.

phuz, no offense amigo, but the root problems of the economical malaise that currently besets us were laid LONG before our current Commander-in-Chief even christened the White House shitter.

BDT

[LiquidSound]

So true TroyD. The economy started its decent two years before GW was elected.

Excellent joke F1Nut.

Mx, they are feeding you crap at 'skool'. Welfare is one way of ensuring a consistant supply of voters for the dems. Why work when you can vote?

[scottvamp]

Don't like talking about politics but the Republican scape goat "it was like this when I got here" or "the guy before me did it".
Come on!!!!!
Strange how things have only gotten worse. My father has lost all his $ in the stock market. This only happened when Bush took over. And everybody is upset over this war pussyfooting.
You think the Repubs would do something right.
What do I care, i'm Independent anyway. And broke.
:(

[Zero]

Phuz,

Perhaps if you would stop looking at audio gear and start looking at more places to apply! :D :D

[HBombToo]

Originally posted by scottvamp
My father has lost all his $ in the stock market. This only happened when Bush took over.
:(

Trust me Amigo.... your father is not the only 1 hurt on the Market and NO it was no fault of Bush.

Hard work and fortitude will take care of us all,... NOT Welfare!!!

Respectfully
HBomb

[goingganzo]

actuley it was the bush ragon era that set clinton up. now bush has to rebuld the econimy.

[MxStYlEpOlKmAn]

not make neone mad all i can see on the welfare issue is -- get a job. not talking to neone

[cruiser3]

The market determines cyclical events in the economy. Doesnt matter who or what Party is in office. To blame this president or that president is inane. Government has little influence on the market forces. The only thing Governments are good at is waging war and taxing the hell out of you and me to pay for it.

[brettw22]

Are we REALLY going to start up another political threat??!?!?!?!?

[HBombToo]

Originally posted by cruiser3
The market determines cyclical events in the economy. Doesnt matter who or what Party is in office. To blame this president or that president is inane. Government has little influence on the market forces. The only thing Governments are good at is waging war and taxing the hell out of you and me to pay for it.

Agreed! and well said.

What is our defense budget plus the Homeland Security department, "cost now?", verse Cheny in office as the defense Secretary.

Roosters EVIL Twin.

H

lets get ready for the hall of shame I fear....

:lol:

Damn RAIN!

HBomb

[meestercleef]

Another way to tell it is . . . The Repub gives the guy a meal voucher & a world atlas & tells him "See page 43, locate Malaysia. That's where my factory is now. Good luck getting there."
The Dem doesn't stop--he's in too big a hurry to get to a $1,000/plate fundraiser, where he talks about "helping the common man".

[Jstas]

Originally posted by cruiser3
The market determines cyclical events in the economy. Doesnt matter who or what Party is in office. To blame this president or that president is inane. Government has little influence on the market forces. The only thing Governments are good at is waging war and taxing the hell out of you and me to pay for it.

WOW! Finally! Someone else besides me has seen that truth! It always amazes me how people can blame a president for all problems.

The economy sucks and the stock market went into the pooper because a whole pile of Gen-X'ers who don't understand what a work ethic is and that you have to offer substance to form a business, not just an idea, got it in thier heads to start "Internet e-Businesses" and they flopped royally after they padded thier bottom lines. Sooner or later it was going to happen and it took alot down with it. The stock market will recover. International strife among nations doesn't help any and neither do terrorist attacks. Corrupt CEOs don't help a whole either. Too many bad things have happened in this economy that are totally independant of polictics although some claim political roots as the cause.

No president is to blame for the economy or teh welfare problems or what have you. The president has no law making power. The president can propose a bill which is voted on and teh President can veto a bill but the President cannot make a law and cannot declare war without approval of Congress. Unless Congress grants the President executive power in that respect. What is to blame is how the Democratic Congress back in the late 80's voted to raid the Social Security fund to pay debt back and reduce the deficit. You know who cast that deciding vote? Al Gore. That's right, the same guy who right now is preaching somewhere to a bunch of senior citizens who are scared out of thier minds that there isn't going to be any money for thier social security fund. My generation can just kiss it goodbye. That is the reason programs like Social Security, Welfare and Medicaid have hit problems. There is no money to support them anymore and they are no longer what Roosevelt had envisioned. They have moved so far away from that original plan that I wouldn't even consider them part of The New Deal plan anymore.

The problem with these socialistic programs like welfare and social security and medicaid and so on is that they are meant to help those in dire straits. They are not meant to support people. Nobody seems to get the fact that the government is not here to take care of you, you are supposed to do that for yourself. The government is an elected body of officials who have been assigned to represent us in the nation's common house to make the laws and keep the peace and provide our country with a means by which to interact and forge healthy, thriving relationships with other countries. It is also the government's task to do the distasteful things like war.

So yes a government is there to wage war. The government maintains a military to defend the land against aggressors. So yes they do that well. A government is not meant to be the nation's parent or benefactor and that is what they don't do well.

People see the government as something disassociated with them. Well guess what sports fans, you elected the people, they represent you. The government is you because they cannot make a new law or change an old one without your approval. They are your face to the rest of the world and that is what makes this country so strong. When someone like Saddam Huessein wants to tangle with the U.S. President they aren't messing with one guy. They are messing with all of you.

I've heard so often that the system is broke. The problem I have with that statement is it comes from people who don't even know what the system is supposed be. Probably because they didn't pay attention in history class in high school. The system is not broken. It works very well. The problem with the system is, it is not implemented properly or even along the lines of what those who implemented it envisioned. Too many people serve thier own agenda. The economy is totally independant of politics. The economy is based on the simple principles of supply and demand and last I check, politicians were not in demand.




One thing I don't see is why an intelligent discussion has to be put in the hall of shame. This is the Off-Topic forum. As long as nobody gets thier panties in a bunch and starts getting mouthy, there is no reason a political discussion cannot be had.

[Ceruleance]

Great Joke, summarizes my feelings quite well