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MacLeod
03-30-2009, 12:16 AM
Was at Best Buy today and they had a new Samsung LED set on display. Ive heard of OLED but they were supposed to be ridiculously expensive and Sony was the only one I knew of that had it. This said only LED and their website says only LED.

All I know is that they had 2 of these set up and the picture quality was head and shoulders above ANYTHING else in the showroom!! Even the Pioneers! Now I know showrooms aint the real world but the PQ on these things was simply breathtaking! They had better color than the plasmas, no motion blur like the LCD's and theyre not suceptible to IR.

I cant find much about them tho as theyre not listed on BB's website and CNET hasnt even done a review on them yet (that I can find).

I found this link on Samsung's website tho that tells a little bit about it.

http://www.samsung.com/us/productsubtype/led/

Found this video from SES 2008 on the Samsung OLED's which appear to be similar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HbXzSdResM

Ive been out of the tv market for a while so this may be old news but its caught me by surprise!
leroyjr1
03-30-2009, 12:18 AM
Did you see how thin they are? 1/2" thick. Very nice picture, the black levels are amazing.
MacLeod
03-30-2009, 12:23 AM
Yeah, super thin! Apparently they dont require a backlight so they can be that thin.

I loved these things! Better PQ than a plasma, smoked the PQ of an LCD, no IR, no motion blur, 40% less power usage compared to LCD's (which would be about 80% less than a plasma)! Whats not to love?! Well there is the price tag. $2800 for a 46" and $3800 for a 55".
disneyjoe7
03-30-2009, 12:27 AM
Hmmm.... Pricey and no track record. Nice but I would need to pass for now.
leroyjr1
03-30-2009, 12:32 AM
Hmmm.... Pricey and no track record. Nice but I would need to pass for now.


The Samsung 950 series LED has been out for a year now without any issues.
leroyjr1
03-30-2009, 12:34 AM
Yeah, super thin! Apparently they dont require a backlight so they can be that thin.

I loved these things! Better PQ than a plasma, smoked the PQ of an LCD, no IR, no motion blur, 40% less power usage compared to LCD's (which would be about 80% less than a plasma)! Whats not to love?! Well there is the price tag. $2800 for a 46" and $3800 for a 55".


At Best Buy near me they have the Pioneer Elite next to the new Samsung LED. I know it's in a store setting but all I can say is Pioneer might need to step their game up.
disneyjoe7
03-30-2009, 12:36 AM
Yeah but it's the first time they came out looking like that.
mmadden28
03-30-2009, 12:38 AM
..and theyre not suceptible to IR....

What is IR? Image Retention?
MacLeod
03-30-2009, 11:09 PM
Yup.

I still cant find out exactly what they are. I remember reading about LCD sets that use LED's instead of a backlight but those never got good reviews. I wonder if this is the same technology.
BigMac
03-31-2009, 09:55 AM
These are the tvs that I have been waiting for. I remember about a year ago I saw the Sony 11" in a magazine for $2500.00. All that viewed the picture on this little oled were amazed and looks like the tech has been refined even more. Going to wait till the initial bugs are worked out then I am going to pull the trigger. Almost bought a new tv a month or so ago but I did not see a reason to shell out over $1,500.00-$2,000.00 for a current lcd that I would not be happy with. There are some really nice LCDs available but they seemed to be missing something that I could not put my finger on. I really liked the Pioneers alot (my least favorite lcd was the Vizio- the blacks on these tvs paled in comparison to the Pioneer as well as the colors looked washed out) but I just could not see a $1,500.00 increase in picture quality from what I have now. The oled wipes the floor with the current led tvs available. When comparing a current higher end lcd to the oled side by side there is really no comparison. Oled wins hands down imo by a long shot. Of course when laser tvs have all the bugs worked out and can be refined and price brought down I can see them as the "reference" standard.
bartimus
03-31-2009, 05:07 PM
I looked at them this weekend at Best Buy as well, and I must be honest, I thought that the picture quality was very good, but almost looked "fake" I suppose it would be better in my home, hooked up to my system, but I am going to wait unitl the price comes down a little before I jump on the bandwagon. I am a Sony fan and really want to see theirs before I would make a decision.
steveinaz
03-31-2009, 05:35 PM
Mac
It replaces the lamp driven DLP's w/LED technology. It's DLP. My DLP is a Samsung lamp version, I've had it for 2.5 yrs now, I love it's picture quality. Haven't had to replace the lamp yet, but I have an extra. I believe I paid $149 from Samsung for the replacement lamp.
MacLeod
04-04-2009, 04:24 PM
Mac
It replaces the lamp driven DLP's w/LED technology. It's DLP. My DLP is a Samsung lamp version, I've had it for 2.5 yrs now, I love it's picture quality. Haven't had to replace the lamp yet, but I have an extra. I believe I paid $149 from Samsung for the replacement lamp.

I dont think so bro - I know the LED DLP sets and I dont think these are the same.

These are only an inch maybe 1.5 inches thick. The LED DLPs are bigger and much cheaper. I think the 61" LED DLP at Best Buy is around $1500 which the 46" version of the LED set is $3000!
Hillbilly61
04-05-2009, 03:52 PM
These are LCD TVs with LEDs as the backlight. Samsung's 3rd generation. They are so thin because the LEDs are placed around the perimeter, instead of having a flourescent light in the rear being projected onto the screen.

Here's an informative link:

http://blogs.pcmag.com/miller/2009/04/inside_an_led_tv.php

Besides a really thin screen, other advantages include a much longer backlight life (much longer than the /- 10 years under normal TV usage levels), lower power consumption and more even backlighting (the many light sources, verses a single one, lessens the potential for slightly brighter or darker screen areas).
edbert
04-06-2009, 10:45 AM
These are the tvs that I have been waiting for. I remember about a year ago I saw the Sony 11" in a magazine for $2500.00.

These are not the same. You are thinking of the OLED that Sony developed. The OLED does not require a backlight but yet has amazing brightness and picture quality by utilizing organic materials.

The LED that the OP was referring to uses LED's instead of regular lamps to use as the backlight for the TV's.

Either way, I can't wait to see some large OLED's on the market.