2 psw 505vsdsw pro 600vs psw 1000 which to get?

[bevo]

I have tried and tried to use the search function in this forum, to find more opinions on these three subs. It keeps coming up with nothing in the searches. I don't know if it's me, or the search function is just not that good. I'm sure these subs have been talked about to death, so sorry if anyone has already answered this question before.

Anyway, my setup is in my sig, and I use my setup for about 60% games, 30% movies and 10% music. Out of the 3 though I would say that music is the most important to me. I just don't get the chance to listen to it as loud as I would like very often. I listen to mostly, 90's grunge and metal. Pearl jam, alice in chains, tool(probably my most listened to).

So would I be better off getting 2 psw 505's, 1 dsw pro 600, or 1 psw 1000. The price would be very close on any of these choices, and that's about 500-600$ is all I'm willing to spend on 1 sub. I would actually like to spend less if possible. That's why the psw 505 are what I'm leaning toward. I get them 1 at a time and not hurt the wallet to bad.

If there any any better choices for me in this price range let me know. Actual model names and numbers would be great. I have nowhere to go listen to any of the subs, anyone suggests.

Thanks in advance for anyone's help.

[xcapri79]

I have commented on these subwoofers previously, but I can do it again.
It wouldn't be the first time being repetitive on here.

I have all three, and I would have to say that I like all three for music, but give the nod to the DSW600 for HT. I can't comment on games, but I suspect it is similar to HT. What you chose depends on your room size and acoustics in my opinion.

On my living room system, I use a DSW600 in the corner off the LFE, then added 4 PSW1000's, one at a time as they were on sale, at each of the fronts and side surrounds. The PSW1000's blend well with my LSi25's and LSi15's. I also liked the idea of using a subwoofer on each speaker just like the LSi25 or older RTi100 or RTi1000 speakers, but with more power and a deeper response.

The front controls on the PSW1000's make them easy to manually adjust. I find I can adjust the volumes to get a rich and even bass response that sounds like a close in live performance. The DSW600 is easily controlled by the remote. Sometimes i turn it off for music. They all shake the large high ceiling room pretty well for movies and rock music. I listen to that system from my computer room via a short hall way. Let me say that it sounds nice in another room.

I also like the PSW505 subwoofers. On my master bedroom system, I originally had a Polk Monitor set up with 4 PSW10's on each speaker as my living room system and the PSW505 on the LFE. The PSW10's were eventually replaced with PSW505's, but instead of one at each of the fronts, I just stacked two of them at the center off the LFE and put two at the surrounds. The Monitor speakers were upgraded to RTi's and eventially LSi's with some amps. I still like the PSW505's there.

If you have a large room, I would definitely go with the DSW600.
If the room is medium to small the PSW505 will work fine and it doesn't cost alot to add a second one.

I purchased the PSW1000's because I had LSi's speakers and I knew they would blend well musically and aesthetically with them. In hindsight, I might have purchased a second DSW600 for the front instead of two PSW1000's.

Have you had a chance to hear any of them? That is always the first recommendation.

[bevo]

No, I have not had a chance to hear them, and will not. I can't find anywhere within 100 miles that carries any of them.

Would I be alright to add 2 psw 505s with each front channel, and then later add the dsw 600 and run it LFE.
How do you add the subs to each speaker? Do they work with each speaker individually, or do all the subs work together?

If they work separately, it sounds like I should get the 505s for my fronts, and a 600 through the LFE. Or maybe even just another psw 111 for the front speakers, and let the larger subs run LFE.

My receiver only has a sub out, but it has a zone b left and right rca out. Would I hook my front 2 subs up to zone b, and split the line so I don't have to use the LFE. That way I can use the crossover on the subs, instead of the avr. And then use the largest sub LFE to carry the deepest bass.

Here is the link to my AVR. http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/4241.asp# You can look at pictures of the back of it, and tell me if I can hook the subs up to each speaker.

I know all this has been discussed before, but it's just so hard to get the search function on this forum to work.

I really do appreciate all of the help everyone in here has given me. It has saved me alot of money, and given me, by far the best system I have ever had. I just wish I had come to this forum, before I bought my receiver. It has no pre outs, and I didn't realize how important they were.

[xcapri79]

You can connect the Polk subwoofers to your system in different ways. Either from your receiver subwoofer pre-out (LFE out) using a shielded RCA cable, or via the speaker wires in series at each speaker.

Typically, you would connect the the sub located at the front to your subwoofer pre-out located at the rear bottom center of your receiver. You can connect multiple subs that way using a RCA splitter either at the receiver or at the subwoofer LFE input. You can just daisy-chain from one subwoofer to the next with a RCA cable and a splitter. The subwoofer settings cross-over settings are now in your receiver.

The other way to do it is using the speaker inputs and outputs on the subwoofer. This method also allows you to connect a subwoofer to an older receiver that may not have a subwoofer pre-out as yours does.

Instead of connecting the end of the speaker wire to the speaker, you can connect it the subwoofer speaker-in jacks. Then connect a short piece of speaker wire from the speaker-out jacks to the speaker itself. It really doesn't matter which channel on the subwoofer you connect to as long as the speaker-in and speaker-out channels are the same. You can see that with an older receiver you can connect both the left and right channels to one subwoofer that way. When you want to locate the subwoofer near the speakers, that is a good way to connect them especially for the rears as it is usually not practical to run a long length of RCA cable to the back of the room. When you connect the subwoofers to the speaker inputs, you need to set your speakers to large and if you are also using the subwoofer pre-out (LFE output), then you need to set the subwoofer to plus or double (not exactly sure with a Denon) on your receiver to ensure the LFE gets the bass input you want. You now use the cross-over controls on your subwoofer.

In my case, I placed two PSW505's, one on top of the other, near the front center of my master bedroom, I connected them via the receiver subwoofer pre-out and daisy chained them together at the subwoofer. For the rears, I used the speaker-in/outs on the subwoofer and connected them in series with the speaker wire.

For my living room system, I connected the PSW1000's at each of the front speaker and side-surrounds using the subwoofer speaker-in/outs and speaker wire. I connected the DSW600 to the subwoofer pre-out at the receiver with a RCA cable. It is out of the way in a corner.

With your system, I would suggest getting one PSW505 for the front and running it off the subwoofer pre-out. It will definitely give you better bass than the PSW111. You can move your PSW111 to the rear if you want and try it on one or both of your surrounds using the speaker connections. See how it sounds. You may notice that the PSW111 at the side surround speaker may provide some bass enhancement for you. I would try that before purchasing another PSW111 or another sub. You may be quite happy with just one PSW505 with out without the PSW111. I purchased multiple subs over time and spent a lot of time looking at multiple subs vs single subs with furniture placement. I like the idea that if one fails, I still have a backup. With one it is all or nothing.

[bevo]

I am now looking at the svs pb12 nsd, I think that's the name. Anyway, would that sub pretty much out do the dsw 600, and psw 1000? I see they have the svs for 519$ on there b list right now.

[thsmith]

Whats the cubic feet of your room ? WxLxH

[Ron Temple]

I am now looking at the svs pb12 nsd, I think that's the name. Anyway, would that sub pretty much out do the dsw 600, and psw 1000? I see they have the svs for 519$ on there b list right now.The PB12NSD will extend to ~ 16-17hz in room with usable output which is 1/2 to a full octave lower than the 600/1000 respectively. It's probably a tad more powerful than either Polk sub throughout it's range...below 35hz it's going to be twice either sub.

[ckphoto]

I have commented on these subwoofers previously, but I can do it again.
It wouldn't be the first time being repetitive on here.

I have all three, and I would have to say that I like all three for music, but give the nod to the DSW600 for HT. I can't comment on games, but I suspect it is similar to HT. What you chose depends on your room size and acoustics in my opinion.

On my living room system, I use a DSW600 in the corner off the LFE, then added 4 PSW1000's, one at a time as they were on sale, at each of the fronts and side surrounds. The PSW1000's blend well with my LSi25's and LSi15's. I also liked the idea of using a subwoofer on each speaker just like the LSi25 or older RTi100 or RTi1000 speakers, but with more power and a deeper response.



The front controls on the PSW1000's make them easy to manually adjust. I find I can adjust the volumes to get a rich and even bass response that sounds like a close in live performance. The DSW600 is easily controlled by the remote. Sometimes i turn it off for music. They all shake the large high ceiling room pretty well for movies and rock music. I listen to that system from my computer room via a short hall way. Let me say that it sounds nice in another room.

I also like the PSW505 subwoofers. On my master bedroom system, I originally had a Polk Monitor set up with 4 PSW10's on each speaker as my living room system and the PSW505 on the LFE. The PSW10's were eventually replaced with PSW505's, but instead of one at each of the fronts, I just stacked two of them at the center off the LFE and put two at the surrounds. The Monitor speakers were upgraded to RTi's and eventially LSi's with some amps. I still like the PSW505's there.

If you have a large room, I would definitely go with the DSW600.
If the room is medium to small the PSW505 will work fine and it doesn't cost alot to add a second one.

I purchased the PSW1000's because I had LSi's speakers and I knew they would blend well musically and aesthetically with them. In hindsight, I might have purchased a second DSW600 for the front instead of two PSW1000's.

Have you had a chance to hear any of them? That is always the first recommendation.

Man you have allot of Subs in your house :) I am sure your main system must rock the house.

[bevo]

Whats the cubic feet of your room ? WxLxH
my room is 24x14x8 which is 2688 cubic feet.

[bevo]

I do have an arch way that leads to another 1500 cubic foot room. I don't know how much of a difference that would make.

[mantis]

2 or more subs make for better even bass in any room.

Dan

[bevo]

My plan is for multiple subs, but my funds restrict that. I have already went past my original budget by about 1000$. My wife is starting to get a little aggravated, so now I'm gonna have to slow it down on the spending some. A sub every couple of months should work out well, plus it will stretch out the upgrades, and maybe I won't get the itch to buy so often.
Really, my sub is the only thing I want to upgrade right now anyway. I would like an amp, but I will need a new receiver when that happens, and that's another major upgrade. I was actually pretty surprised how well the denon pushes the RTi A5's. They sound better then I imagined. I'm sure when I do get some decent power to them, I will be amazed.