Windows 7 RC

[Lorthos]

Hello

If anyones interested Win 7 RC is available for download:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/download.aspx

[AsSiMiLaTeD]

how long can you use it?

[AsSiMiLaTeD]

nevermind, looks like March 2010

[Airplay355]

Your computer will shit down every two hours before it completely expires and you'll need to install the full version to get it to stop. Sounds....fun :)

[WilliamM2]

Your computer will shit down every two hours before it completely expires and you'll need to install the full version to get it to stop. Sounds....fun :)

Usually when trying a new OS, I put it on a separate partition or drive, and dual boot.

[haimoc]

I am waiting to buy a new desktop with this OS on it..

[Pauly]

Dl it last night but havent installed yet cuz i was up all night building my new computer. Took over 3 hours to format my TB drive. :eek::eek::eek:

Patiently waiting for the day to end. Ive heard and read alot of good things about 7.


Pauly

[Pauly]

Your computer will shit down every two hours before it completely expires and you'll need to install the full version to get it to stop. Sounds....fun :)

This will start in March of 2010 until you buy or re-install another OS then June 2010 it expires. I think its great they are giving you almost a year. The release is set for October. Plenty of time to play around with and buy before the 2 hour shutdown crap starts.


Pauly

[Sami]

I installed beta on VirtualBox, haven't really tried it out that much yet. I might dual boot my gaming rig with the RC to see if it makes any difference. Hopefully MS got it right this time, even then I'm not going back to Windows on my main machine.

[bruss]

im in the middle of a build and will be trying this for sure.

[Lorthos]

Pauly and Bruss, am interested in your parts breakdown on your builds.....

[Knucklehead]

Your computer will shit down every two hours before it completely expires and you'll need to install the full version to get it to stop. Sounds....fun :)

I hate it when my PC shits down!:p:eek:

[Airplay355]

Haahaa :D

[Kex]

I hate it when my PC shits down!:p:eek:I was going to say the same thing. That might be signature material right there! Come to think of it, shitting up might be even more of a problem! Yup ... between the two, down is most definitely better!

[Pauly]

Pauly and Bruss, am interested in your parts breakdown on your builds.....
AMD Phenom 9600 Quad Core - CPU
Asus M4A78 Plus - MotherBoard
Antec EA430 - PS
Artic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro - CPU Fan
OCZ Reaper HPC DDR 4 Gigs - Ram
Seagate Barracuda 1 TB - Hard Drive
CoolerMaster Elite 330 - Case
Using old PCI Video card till i buy new card next payday.

Let you know how its running next couple days on 7 RC


Pauly

[polkatese]

FYI guys, for those of you who has Windows 7 Beta, and rather be doing an UPGRADE as opposed to Complete Install of RC, here is the hack:

Burn ISO (downloaded W7 RC image) to DVD
Copy the DVD content to local drive (partition that will be upgraded) or Flash Drive USB that you will use to install W7 RC
Go to Sources directory of W7 RC
Use notepad to edit cversion.ini
Change the value on both lines to 7000
save cversion.ini to replace the original
Execute Setup.exe and select Upgrade when prompted

I did it this morning, and so far, all of my programs that I installed before (on Windows 7 Beta) are working fine.

[Pauly]

Got it up and running last night. Seems ok at the moment. Think im gonna need to tweak a little as hits hogging up my CPU. Will play around more tonight

[AsSiMiLaTeD]

I have a little internet connectivity wierdness, but overall it's working well for me. I like the interface tweaks, and games do run a little better for me, but nothing earth-shattering

[bruss]

Pauly and Bruss, am interested in your parts breakdown on your builds.....

Im about half way through this build. Still have some cash to spend.

Installed and ready.

Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P
Intel q9400 quad core
Antec 650 Earthwatts Power supply
Tuniq Tower CPU Cooler

Still need to buy. May vary based on pricing at the moment.
Corsair Dominator DDR2 pc-8500 (8 GB)
WD 10000 rpm HD.
2 WD 7400 RPM 1tb
ATI XFX 4890 or 4870..

[Lorthos]

Im about half way through this build. Still have some cash to spend.

Installed and ready.

Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P
Intel q9400 quad core
Antec 650 Earthwatts Power supply
Tuniq Tower CPU Cooler

Still need to buy. May vary based on pricing at the moment.
Corsair Dominator DDR2 pc-8500 (8 GB)
WD 10000 rpm HD.
2 WD 7400 RPM 1tb
ATI XFX 4890 or 4870..

+1 on the raptor, I only use these for the OS anymore....

[AsSiMiLaTeD]

Anyone else get a delay when they right click on the desktop?

[AsSiMiLaTeD]

I should also mention this ONLY happens on the desktop, all the other menus pop up as they should

[Pauly]

Anyone else get a delay when they right click on the desktop?

When listening to music and surfing web the Music was glitching in and out when i would scroll around a page. The CPU was spiking like crazy when i did this. Very odd.

[Roy Munson]

I'm downloading this now and I'll probably put it on another partition.

Currently I'm running Vista Home Premium with no problems so I don't know what if any improvement I'll see but what the hey.

[AsSiMiLaTeD]

Everything else in the OS runs great, and no slowness at all, just on the right click menu on the desktop

[polkatese]

so far so good, but coming from Windows 7 Beta, I don't really see any *major* difference: speed, interface, features (or at least usable features for me). It is stable, a tad faster, clean and straight forward upgrade process (two reboots overall, perhaps?). Am I missing all the hoopla excitements? No complain is a good thing, though...

[MacLeod]

Ive heard good things about 7 so far. A couple magazines have already claimed it better than Vista.

Im building a computer myself but as money is tight, its going very slow and piecemeal so by the time I get ready to fire the thing up maybe this will be ready. Was planning on getting a Vista Home Premium OEM OS but if this is out when I finish, Ill go with it.

[billbillw]

FYI guys, for those of you who has Windows 7 Beta, and rather be doing an UPGRADE as opposed to Complete Install of RC, here is the hack:

Burn ISO (downloaded W7 RC image) to DVD
Copy the DVD content to local drive (partition that will be upgraded) or Flash Drive USB that you will use to install W7 RC
Go to Sources directory of W7 RC
Use notepad to edit cversion.ini
Change the value on both lines to 7000
save cversion.ini to replace the original
Execute Setup.exe and select Upgrade when prompted

I did it this morning, and so far, all of my programs that I installed before (on Windows 7 Beta) are working fine.

That's some great info! I wasn't looking forward to a full re-install for the RC.

Just so I'm sure, the RC is only downloadable to TechNet subscribers right now, correct?

[Serendipity]

I was going to say the same thing. That might be signature material right there! Come to think of it, shitting up might be even more of a problem! Yup ... between the two, down is most definitely better!

This is definitely sig material...hilarious!

[polkatese]

That's some great info! I wasn't looking forward to a full re-install for the RC.

Just so I'm sure, the RC is only downloadable to TechNet subscribers right now, correct?

nope. It's wide open to everyone now, as of yesterday, Bill..

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default.aspx

[engtaz]

Will it allow you to multi OS boot?

[audiobliss]

Not that I've discovered. I've installed it on a desktop and now my laptop so far, and I've wiped both systems to do so.

[engtaz]

I don't what to wipe my system. MS ME and MS Vista taught me that.

[AsSiMiLaTeD]

of course you can multiboot, just like with any other OS

[AsSiMiLaTeD]

Ive heard good things about 7 so far. A couple magazines have already claimed it better than Vista.I don't think there's any question that it's a significant improvement over Vista, I don't think anyone would dispute that at this point.

The general consensus is that its what Vista should have been all along. There are a few new features, but really this should have just been released as a service pack for Vista.

I'd really like to see Microsoft man up and offer this as an upgrade for Vista users at a significant discount.

[ben62670]

All I have to say is every other OS MS puts out;)

[billbillw]

nope. It's wide open to everyone now, as of yesterday, Bill..

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default.aspx

Ok, I wasn't scrolling down far enough to see the public DL links. I'll have to give this a try over the weekend.

[bdaley6509]

pretty stable on my Sony 11" laptop. Runs well.

[Roy Munson]

Will it allow you to multi OS boot?

Yes, I installed Win 7 on another partition and I'm dual booting with Vista since last night. I haven't had a chance to set it all up yet but so far so good. Everything runs ok and it's no problem switching from Vista to Win 7.

[audiobliss]

I just put it on my ThinkPad T61 last night, too, and I'm enjoying it.

[SKsolutions]

Anyone get the separate Virtual XP download to install with W7?

[billbillw]

Upgraded last night. No problems. I still don't like the way the photo import feature works though.

[WilliamM2]

We,ve been testing it on a machine at work, seems to work fine. That said, I don't see any compelling features that would prompt us to upgrade our machines from XP. Most of the animated crap would just slow productivity down. It seems to run quite a bit faster than Vista, but still slower than XP.

At home I am dual booting XP and 7. I can't get my TV tuner to work no matter what I try, even though it has all the proper drivers and software loaded. And several of the programs I like to use won't run, so at this point it's just annoying me, and I usually boot into XP.

[jmwest1970]

We,ve been testing it on a machine at work, seems to work fine. That said, I don't see any compelling features that would prompt us to upgrade our machines from XP.

Is this in a Active Directory environment? If it is how is the login speed?

We feel the same way as far as the features. The only problem is that unless Microsoft changes their license terminology you can only "downgrade" to the previous version of the OS. When vendors stop selling Vista licenses XP will not be a legal downgrade. If you're not buying new computers with OEM licenses, or if you buy all your OS licenses through the Open Licensing Program, that's not a problem. Otherwise it's Win7 or Vista.

[SKsolutions]

Dual boot, XP and Win7 64bit on a 14" Laptop.
I haven't done a battery test to check the efficiency, but it's snappy and responsive.
IE8 works nice, reads very well. . . but it's IE, so my expectations are low.
Purdy though. So far, so good. I will surely be waiting for Win7 to appear in OEM form before buying a replacement main laptop.

[Roy Munson]

Win 7 is great, it has the snappy speed of XP and the eye candy of Vista plus features that are unique to Win 7. After several days of use I have to say this is a BIG winner for MS. I didn't have a lot of the problems others had with Vista so I was pretty happy with it but I have to say MS has hit a home run with the RC. If the retail version is as good it will be a hit!

[Kex]

Update on Windows 7 release:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/06/02/technology/microsoft_windows.reut/index.htm?postversion=2009060215

[polkatese]

That's good news. My W7RC install is as stable as it can be. No issue whatsoever.

[bruss]

That's good news. My W7RC install is as stable as it can be. No issue whatsoever.


same here.. I really like this OS. I will be buyig it at release

[MacLeod]

Any word on how much this will cost?

Im almost finished building my computer and was planning on buying Windows Vista Home Premium for $99 at Newegg cause I thought 7 wouldnt be released til late next year. If the OEM version of this will run $100 like Vista, then Ill just download the RC version for free and run it until October when the real version comes out but if its going to be $300+, Ill pass and stick with Vista.

[dpowell]

Thanks but I'll wait until SP1 comes out.

[bruss]

try the RC first.. what have you got to loose?

Any word on how much this will cost?

Im almost finished building my computer and was planning on buying Windows Vista Home Premium for $99 at Newegg cause I thought 7 wouldnt be released til late next year. If the OEM version of this will run $100 like Vista, then Ill just download the RC version for free and run it until October when the real version comes out but if its going to be $300+, Ill pass and stick with Vista.

[MacLeod]

I think thats what Ill do. If it comes out and its $300 Ill just buy Vista next year when the RC expires.

[SKsolutions]

Link to upgrade pricing: LINK (http://www.pcworld.com/article/166233/best_buy_memo_on_windows_7_outlines_upgrade_pricin g.html)

Upgrades to Windows 7 Home Premium, which includes improvements to Vista's sluggish-yet-pretty Aero interface as well as multitouch features, will set Vista users back just $49.99, according a leaked Best Buy memo posted by Engadget. Updates to Windows 7 Professional, targeted at business users, will cost $99.99.

Although I've put XP back on this box, it's going to be pretty cheap to go from Vista to W7, so a quick wipe and install, then the upgrade to W7 Pro for 100$ seems like a pretty good deal. Kudo's to MS for the tacit apology for Vista in the form of a discount. I hope this is how it actually shakes out.

Edit: From another article
"The best part of the memo comes at the end where Best Buy says they will also be preselling select version of Windows 7 on their web site. Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade will go for $49.99 and Windows 7 Professional Upgrade will go for only $99.99. This offer will be available for 16 days through July 11th, 2009. You will receive your upgrade on October 22nd."

[Sami]

That's not bad at all. I might however stick with Vista since I only use it for games now and occasionally Visual Studio. Unless Microsoft comes up with something ground breaking, which I don't see them doing, I think I'll stick with other options in the future as well for my non-gaming computers.

[ben62670]

I should have shot myself in the foot! What a freaken nightmare install.
Error code 0x80070017
Files are corupt or missing,
Aparently after doing the google search this is a common problem. Burn your ISO on a slow setting if you run into this problem. The thing is up and running great within the OS now. Very fast and clean after you turn down some of the sliding fading crap.

[nadams]

Have it loaded on my work laptop. Dell Latitude d620. Core2Duo 2.0ghz, 2gb ddr2, 60gb SATA HD. Runs better than vista, has a few features that are nice. Works fine on and off our domain. Seems to be snappier than Vista on the same laptop. Almost the same level as XP, even with the visual goodies turned on.

[ben62670]

Have it loaded on my work laptop. Dell Latitude d620. Core2Duo 2.0ghz, 2gb ddr2, 60gb SATA HD. Runs better than vista, has a few features that are nice. Works fine on and off our domain. Seems to be snappier than Vista on the same laptop. Almost the same level as XP, even with the visual goodies turned on.

It is ripping right along. I am going to use it as my media server, and my ICS device. The eye candy I recommend turning off is the slide/fade features. I want stuff to just open. No ooooh just open.

[Shizelbs]

Been using it for about a week. I really like it. I like then new use of the taskbar. I really like the collective media folders. The whole OS is super fast on my machine.

[ben62670]

Can you install XP after 7 and have a dual boot?

[Sami]

Can you install XP after 7 and have a dual boot?

If you can't for some reason (XP might destroy the 7's boot sector, actually it probably will), there is a way to do it. I don't know if the super grub disc works but a sure way would be to do minimal Linux install on the machine and let it write its own boot loader which would then handle all 3. It's very easy to do but if you need help on how to do it, let me know.

[ben62670]

Thanks Sami. I haven't done much with linux in about 10 years!

[Sami]

Anyone able to play games on Windows 7? Everytime I try to play BF2 online, punkbuster kicks me out ("Disallowed program/driver").

[bruss]

i had to update pbuster for cod4 to run right

[Sami]

I disabled EVGA Precision (their OC utility) and everything seems to work fine now. I guess PB didn't like the name precision... :)

[Sami]

Caused a first BSOD on 7 today...upgraded motherboard. Gives me a welcome screen with those flashing balls, then restarts. Automatic repair wouldn't fix it, we'll see if I can restore it without reinstall.

Ubuntu start up fine.

[disneyjoe7]

Caused a first BSOD on 7 today...upgraded motherboard. Gives me a welcome screen with those flashing balls, then restarts. Automatic repair wouldn't fix it, we'll see if I can restore it without reinstall.

Ubuntu start up fine.


Interesting, doesn't seem to like upgrades at all. :eek:

[Sami]

Well, this is my gaming rig, no harm done even if it goes down. 7 would not boot even to safe mode, same BSOD. Repair mode it did boot into but it couldn't do much. Back into installing:

1) Vista 32bit Ultimate
2) Windows 7 RC 64 Ultimate
3) Ubuntu 9.04 64 Desktop

[MacLeod]

Mine has been working pretty good so far. Still transferring all my crap from my other computer so I havent really put it thru its paces yet tho.

This thing was the easiest install I think Ive ever done. Maybe 4 clicks and it was off and running and took about 10 minutes to complete. So far I really like it and am pretty sure Ill be in line to pick one of these up when they hit the shelves.

[disneyjoe7]

Windows 7 is really going to be the name? And I thought it was just a code name.

[Roy Munson]

Well today Microsoft offered Win 7 Home Premium upgrade pre-ordered for $50.00 plus tax and shipping so I ordered it because I just really like Win 7RC that I've been running. You can get it and several other version upgrades at the Microsoft Store.

http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Windows-7/category/102?WT.mc_id=winonline_win7promo

[SKsolutions]

If you are running x64 Win7 and go through update, the optional KB967355, labeled as a Test update is better avoided.