Tim Burton's "Alice in Wonderland"

[Ron-P]

Here's just a few images from what is to be one seriously amazing film. I will say this, there is no director on this planet that can create such amazing films as Tim Burton, none.



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[Toolfan66]

This will be a MUST OWN. I can't wait, Tim Burton is the shit.

[CaligulaPolk]

seems mrs burton is in all of his movies. Loooks good movie and will be a day one buy on blu-ray for me

[thuffman03]

That looks really cool. When did or is it coming out? I don't follow movies much so forgive me on being in the dark.

[comfortablycurt]

This looks like it'll be a good one. If anyone can successfully remake Alice In Wonderland, Tim Burton's the guy. His movies are incredible.

[Ron-P]

that looks really cool. When did or is it coming out? I don't follow movies much so forgive me on being in the dark.

05/10/2010

[Hardtail67]

This seems pretty awesome and I love alot of Tim Burtons stuff but lets not forget he made 'Charlie and the Chocolat Factory' and 'Planet of the Apes'.

I have to admit his hits far outweigh his misses.:rolleyes:

[venomclan]

This seems pretty awesome and I love alot of Tim Burtons stuff but lets not forget he made 'Charlie and the Chocolat Factory' and 'Planet of the Apes'.

I have to admit his hits far outweigh his misses.:rolleyes:

Charlie sucked big time.

[AsSiMiLaTeD]

I can't wait for this one, gonna be another awesome Tim Burton flick.

[zombie boy 2000]

I'm a HUGE Tim Burton fan and I can say his only real miss was Planet of the Apes. There are even rumors that he was actually replaced on the set with a phantom director due to major conflicts with the studio. Some reports have him not even setting foot on the set for the majority of filming. They really only kept his name on the final product for name recognition.

I thought Charlie was another miss the first time I saw it, but subsequent viewings have me thinking otherwise. As over the top as it could be at times (most notably the musical numbers), there are some really subtle bits that really make the movie.

[AsSiMiLaTeD]

I don't get all the hate with Charlie, thought it was a great movie, especially after seeing it a couple times. It was a bit of sensory overload the first time through, but after the initial shock it's really a great movie.

[Bass_Pedal]

Batman Returns, Mars Attacks! , Sleep Hollow, The Planet of the Apes, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. All movies with incredible production values, unique and well produced visual presentations but in the end left me limp. There is no doubt Tim Burton is a gifted crafter of films, nobody can set a mood or create a world better than he can, but it has to be said that sometimes there is lot more sizzle than there is steak in his films. Not looking to start anything, just wanted to give my 2 cents.

[Ron-P]

Burton's Charlie was a lot more in tune with the book then the Wilder version ever was, it far exceeded the previous by leaps and bounds.

The only Burton film I did not care for was Apes, other then that his films have all be fantastic.

[zombie boy 2000]

Ron... have you heard the same rumors I have concerning Apes?
Bass... didn't you think Big Fish and Ed Wood were overflowing with substance?

[nooshinjohn]

Burtons's falling out with the studio over Apes started when they insisted the female characters make-ups be redesigned to make them less human. Burton's vision called for them to be beautiful in a human way so as to be attractive to humans... he wanted there to be a love scene in the film between human and ape! Once that element was removed as a possibility, the rest of the script needed to be reworked, as it was the love between Helena Bohnam-Carter's and Mark Whalberg's characters that was to have led to a completely different film than the one that got made....

[Bass_Pedal]

I really enjoyed Big Fish and Ed Wood. Although I will admit Big Fish was a bit of a guilty pleasure :)

[bobman1235]

The problem with Charlie is that people have a fondness for the original (however "unfaithful" to the source material it was, it is still a classic movie and one that many people love), so a remake is always going to grate with people.

[Oblique]

I think Burton is getting back to his glory day roots with this movie, like back when he made amazing movies like Beetlejuice. I can not wait for this movie it looks amazing. And for those who didn't now this isn't a remake but a return to the alice world, I guess its the sequel after the animated disney movie because Alice was much youger then and now she is 17 when she returns, only thing is she doesn't remember that she has been in wonderland before. So this is going to be great!

[brdwaybeauty]

This is gonna be great! I'm a huge fan of Burton....although I watched Beetlejuice a couple nights ago because it was on TV and that was just way too strange..

[Ron-P]

Ron... have you heard the same rumors I have concerning Apes?
Bass... didn't you think Big Fish and Ed Wood were overflowing with substance?
What Ape rumors?

[zombie boy 2000]

See posts 10 and 15.

[John30_30]

This is gonna be great! I'm a huge fan of Burton....although I watched Beetlejuice a couple nights ago because it was on TV and that was just way too strange..

You should watch it in dubbed Spanish. If there's anything missing, it's the Mexican gothic touch. Beetlejuice speaking Spanish is the tits.

[cnh]

Burton is one of those Idiot Savant types. He has Genius visuals but he, himself, doesn't always KNOW what he is actually doing! And occasionally he can produce a stinker because of that! A conversation with him about his films would probably yield a very 'boring' transcript!

Look to Bunuel, Bergman, Kurosawa and Felini if you want intellectual amusement! But there's nothing wrong with a good DAY-DREAM on the big screen!

Film is, in a way, a WAKING DREAM, which may explain our fascination with it....it taps into something much deeper in the psyche than what is actually being 'seen'?

cnh

[Ron-P]

Film is, in a way, a WAKING DREAM, which may explain our fascination with it....it taps into something much deeper in the psyche than what is actually being 'seen'?

cnh
Very well said, and I completely agree. That's one reason why I love Burton's films and, in general, movies that take me away from reality. I don't like reality films at all, got enough of that junk in real life.

[Ron-P]

Seems Tim's not remaking Disney's Alice, but rather a sequel of sorts. About Alice's return to Wonderland at the age of 17. You can read about it here.

http://aliceinwonderlandbook.blogspot.com/

[AudioGenics]

most unusual and unique imagination....

[John30_30]

I don't like reality films at all, got enough of that junk in real life.

Great sig material.

[McLoki]

New trailer from ComicCon (http://paralleluniverse.msn.com/comic-con/video/?g=f4a4bc66-431d-4865-bc7e-4647dcaa8b05%26tab=Walt%20Disney%20Pictures%26ap=t rue).... Looks like it may be pretty good.

[Ron-P]

New trailer up...WOW, this looks amazing!

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810078365/video/17167847

[Pauly]

yeah just seen the Trailer. :eek::eek::eek: Looks Awsome!

I might have to make a batch of brownies and go see this.....

Pauly

[danger boy]

saw this over the weekend in 3D IMAX.. and while it was cool seeing the 3D.. it wasn't done as well as the 3D in Avatar. At least to me it didn't see that good.

the movie is ok.. not great.. I would not see it again though.. and prob will not buy it when it comes out on BD.

[Tony M]

Maybe Tim went over the edge again huh?

[danger boy]

Well. I know when going to see a Tim Burton movie what it's going to be like ahead of time. he's to "Tim Burton" formula now. most all his movies now have the same look, feel and story line. You can expect the same 4 or 5 actors/actresses to be in his movies.

Johnny Depp will play an off the wall yet likeable character. Helen Bonam Carter will be a cranky off the wall character. etc... to formula for my taste I guess.

C'mon Mr Burton do something new and original we haven't see before..

[shack]

One of my daughters went to see it and was not that impressed. She said the 3-D was sort of cool but just didn't care for the movie.

[dkg999]

Went to see the 3D version with my daughter this weekend. It passed my "was I entertained" test. The 3D wasn't as good as Avatar. It's hard to go to far askew with a time-worn storyline, however I thought they did pretty well. The red queen did steal some of Dep's thunder. The part of the white queen could of been cast much more effectively.

[Ron-P]

saw this over the weekend in 3D IMAX.. and while it was cool seeing the 3D.. it wasn't done as well as the 3D in Avatar. At least to me it didn't see that good.


That's because it was filmed in 2D and then converted to 3D. It's not a film that was originally filmed in 3D so it will not look nearly as good as, say Avatar.

[BottomFeeder]

Just got back from "Alice" and my wife and I thought it was great.

Excellent

[Sherardp]

I'll be in Guam next week and will definitely try to see this. The previews look great.

[Uilleann]

It can't possibly be any WORSE than Avatar was! (trying to hold back the severe wretching) ;)

I'm sure the 3-D is as 'believable' as any out there...at the end of the day, it's still a movie ans still constrained to the limitations of optical physics and current technology. Now if someday, we every get to an actual setting like the holo-deck or whatever it was called on the Star Trek series...THAT would be something! :)

[AsSiMiLaTeD]

I don't get all the neggative reviews about this movie. We went and saw it yesterday and it delivered on every expectation we had.

Was it a really in depth story with lots of plot twists? No, it's a Tim Burton movie. Did it stay very close to the original story line? No, it's a Tim Buron movie. Did it have a cheesy ending? Yes, it's a Tim Buron movie. Was it in absolute piece of artwork genius? Yes, it's a Tum Buron movie. Did it look awesome? Yes, it's a Tum Burton movie.

My only (somewhat) complaint was the score, I didn't find it very original. I doubt many moviegoers would notice this or care, but it's basically a mash-up of his other work and nothing new and original. The main theme was basically a rip off of the theme from Black Beauty. I knew i recognized it during the movie, and i've got all his scores, so when I got home I found it. At least he's ripping off himself and not someone else.

Overall, I walked away ver pleased and will likely go see it again, though I'm admittedly a fan of Tim.

[Keiko]

Got the DVD delivered today from netflix. Loved it. This is tops on my wish list to buy once things settle down financially. 5 out of 5 IMHO.

[bobman1235]

I saw this recently. As expected from Tim Burton, it was beautiful to look at, but still SEVERELY lacking. I found it extremely slow and boring. I appreciate the art but there has to be something beyond pretty pictures. I think most Burton movies do a good job of balancing the crazy visuals with a compelling story; this is not one.

[zombie boy 2000]

As a HUGE Tim Burton fan, I kind of have to agree with Bob on the path he has chosen later in his career. It actually kind of started with Sleepy Hollow (which I loved) and most noticably, Planet of the Apes. It seems he and the studios may be cashing in on using his style to reinterpret source material that would appear to lend itself to his aesthetic. And unfortunately, many times it falls flat.

I would rather him go in a more personally creative direction - ala films such as Big Fish and Ed Wood. The man can do a fantastic story accompanied by some amazing visuals. He's proven it before. I just think he's in a creative rut right now.

[Demiurge]

It wasn't exactly an unknown story so I'm not sure what people were expecting. :confused: Visually and aurally it was great.

[bobman1235]

It wasn't exactly an unknown story so I'm not sure what people were expecting. :confused: Visually and aurally it was great.

It kind of was an unknown story, given that it was a sequel to the original book... the characters were the same but the "plot" as it was was not the same.

[Demiurge]

Again, what were you expecting?

[bobman1235]

That's not really a fair question. I was expecting a movie that was interesting and kept me entertained for 108 minutes. There are a million ways to tell a story, which is why directors are so important. The same story in the hands of two different people can be boring or thrilling, depending on how it's told. So content-wise I was expecting what I got, but in the hands of Tim Burton I expected it not only to be pretty but also to be paced better and made more captivating.