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tryrrthg
08-07-2009, 08:18 AM
I am looking for a "high end" receiver from the likes of Rotel or Arcam. I would consider NAD or B&K also, but I'm not as familiar with those brands so I'd have to do some research.

Something like the Rotel RSX-1065 or 1067 would be ideal, but the 1055 or 1057 would probably work too.

Needs to have preouts. Not looking to break the bank either, but let me know what you've got. Thanks!

AudioGenics
08-07-2009, 08:38 AM
What did you have in mind spending $$ ?
also would you consider separate components.

okiepolkie
08-07-2009, 08:40 AM
It isn't on your list, but I would consider Primare as well: http://cgi.ebay.com/Primare-SPA-21-Surround-Sound-Receiver-Must-See_W0QQitemZ290337567278QQcmdZViewItemQQptZReceiv ers_Tuners?hash=item439977b22e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14(no affiliation)

The SPA22, which replaced the 21, sells new for $5K, and sounds VERY good for the money. The 21 is very close in performance, and can found at reasonable prices at this point.

tryrrthg
08-07-2009, 08:45 AM
What did you have in mind spending $$ ?
also would you consider separate components.

Not sure yet on the budget, just want to see what my options are before deciding...

I have looked at a few seperates options. I'm open to them also but am leaning towards a receiver. depends on what I can find, and at what price. ;)

tryrrthg
08-07-2009, 08:47 AM
It isn't on your list, but I would consider Primare as well: http://cgi.ebay.com/Primare-SPA-21-Surround-Sound-Receiver-Must-See_W0QQitemZ290337567278QQcmdZViewItemQQptZReceiv ers_Tuners?hash=item439977b22e&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14(no affiliation)

The SPA22, which replaced the 21, sells new for $5K, and sounds VERY good for the money. The 21 is very close in performance, and can found at reasonable prices at this point.

That looks very nice! but probably more than I want to spend on a receiver...

Face
08-07-2009, 09:57 AM
Why don't you get something like a Onkyo or HK with pre outs? You'll be missing out on the new audio formats and such with an older unit. Or are you looking to replace the Arcam A85?

okiepolkie
08-07-2009, 10:00 AM
Why don't you get something like a Onkyo or HK with pre outs? You'll be missing out on the new audio formats and such with an older unit. Or are you looking to replace the Arcam A85?

Even a decent Denon, with pre-outs(the one in my signature is for sale :)) would work. I understand you are looking for "high end," which is why I suggested the Primare, but even at used prices, I'm not sure you are going to find a receiver current enough to be worth an upgrade.

dekuda
08-07-2009, 10:02 AM
Some nice demo Rotel surround sound avr and preamps here: :D
http://www.spearitsound.com/specials.htm

tryrrthg
08-07-2009, 11:00 AM
Why don't you get something like a Onkyo or HK with pre outs? You'll be missing out on the new audio formats and such with an older unit. Or are you looking to replace the Arcam A85?

I have a receiver with preouts. I'm looking to move everything I have now for more of a one box (less expensive) solution. My setup is too complicated for my life right now. I have an 18 month old son that keeps me too busy for a whole lot of music/movie use. I need something simple (yet still sounds good) until we move to a new house and I can get my man cave back.

So I was hoping to find a decent receiver that will sound good for music, which is more background noise anymore, than sitting down and listening. I don’t need the latest and greatest receiver for the new formats because my blu-ray player has analog outputs for that stuff. I don’t use video switching on receivers since I like to have the option of watching TV with and without the receiver being on.

basically I am chasing my tail like most audiophiles do. :D

hearingimpared
08-07-2009, 12:12 PM
I use an NAD T765 and I love it. It's good for music too.

Kex
08-07-2009, 12:25 PM
I might be going in a new direction soon, and would consider selling my NAD T754 to help pay some pending veterinary bills. They are $650 brand new from Spearit Sound currently, so it would cost you considerably less than that. I bought mine brand new less than a year ago (not refurbished). It is in pristine condition, so I'd rate it 9/10. None of the buttons on the unit or the remote show any sign of use (I started using a universal Sony remote immediately).

I have been very impressed with its performance. It does not have HDMI, but all analog video formats can be converted to component for 720p/1080i output. Huge power, despite the seemingly modest 70w/ch (x6) or 90w/ch (x2) rating. It also has interesting features, such as five custom presets, selectable from the remote, that allow you to adjust and memorize speaker size and crossover points, as well as subwoofer settings etc. Very useful if you like your subwoofer on for movies, but off, or adjusted differently for music, for example. The remote also includes a dedicated rocker button for each of sbuwoofer level, center channel level and surround level.

It has handled my 82.5dB efficent, 3-6 ohm speakers flawlessly at reference levels. In fact, I'm so confident in its performance that I don't even bother to engage the proprietary soft clipping feature, but it's there if you want the added level of protection for your speakers.

If I get another receiver at some point, it will certainly be a NAD also, with or without the HD audio formats.

Let me know if you are interested!

ViperZ
08-07-2009, 12:37 PM
Not very high-end, but Pioneer SC-07/SC-09, Onkyo 805/875/905/906, Denon 3808/4308/4310/5308 or comparable Marantz should fit the bill.

BrettT1
08-07-2009, 05:48 PM
Looks like someone might get a nice receiver for a good price here...

http://cgi.ebay.com/NAD-T773_W0QQitemZ180392854961QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRecei vers_Tuners?hash=item2a004085b1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

good luck in your search.

Face
08-07-2009, 05:55 PM
FWIW, I tried a big dollar receiver/pre pro and found it was lacking in two channel compared to a much cheaper dedicated two channel setup. I realize you're not doing much critical listening at the moment, but in the future you may regret selling off what you have now.

AndyGwis
08-07-2009, 07:02 PM
I have a B&K AVR 507 S2 that I could part with. Hit me via PM to discuss.

Oh, and no preouts needed with this receiver as most typical HT amps won't touch what this thing is already pushing in its powerful chassis.

Okay, I am a little biased, like the receiver, but it's 150 REAL wpc. More into 4 ohms. Didn't break a sweat running 2 channel and/or 5 channel LSi Lineup.

tryrrthg
08-07-2009, 11:00 PM
FWIW, I tried a big dollar receiver/pre pro and found it was lacking in two channel compared to a much cheaper dedicated two channel setup. I realize you're not doing much critical listening at the moment, but in the future you may regret selling off what you have now.
I will probably agree with you but right now I just don't want all the boxes. and in the future I wouldn't want what I have now ;) it's nice sounding but with more room it would not be my first choice.

tryrrthg
08-07-2009, 11:01 PM
I have a B&K AVR 507 S2 that I could part with. Hit me via PM to discuss.

Oh, and no preouts needed with this receiver as most typical HT amps won't touch what this thing is already pushing in its powerful chassis.

Okay, I am a little biased, like the receiver, but it's 150 REAL wpc. More into 4 ohms. Didn't break a sweat running 2 channel and/or 5 channel LSi Lineup.
It's probably more than I want to spend but hit me with a PM in what you are thinking for price. Thanks!

Kex
08-08-2009, 04:51 PM
I'm not sure if you wanted this to work as a dual HT & music system, but if you only need to power two speakers for music, perhaps you should consider the JoLida hybrid integrated units. They are very compact, and give the added advantage of letting you experiment with the tube pre-amp section.

Even the 1301, rated at 30w/ch for the solid state amplification section, will probably surprise you with it's abilities, and they can be bought used for about $200 and up currently. The more powerful 1501 is at least $500 used AFIK, so that may not work out when compared to the used sale value of you current integrated. If interested, you could try my 1301 out for free if you like, to see if you like that option (just pay shipping costs & insurance). I'm guessing that you would not be sacrificing much, if any, sound quality when compared to the Arcam with this option. They will only drive 8 ohms, AFIK, however.

http://www.jolida.com/catalogue/hybridamp.shtml

Of course, that would be a non-starter if you also want this solution to work for surround sound HT, and in that case, I'll make the same offer for the NAD, if you want to try it: just pay shipping (but at 50lbs, that's not as easy a "free" trial as the JoLida would be).

tryrrthg
08-10-2009, 10:21 AM
I'm not sure if you wanted this to work as a dual HT & music system, but if you only need to power two speakers for music, perhaps you should consider the JoLida hybrid integrated units. They are very compact, and give the added advantage of letting you experiment with the tube pre-amp section.

Even the 1301, rated at 30w/ch for the solid state amplification section, will probably surprise you with it's abilities, and they can be bought used for about $200 and up currently. The more powerful 1501 is at least $500 used AFIK, so that may not work out when compared to the used sale value of you current integrated. If interested, you could try my 1301 out for free if you like, to see if you like that option (just pay shipping costs & insurance). I'm guessing that you would not be sacrificing much, if any, sound quality when compared to the Arcam with this option. They will only drive 8 ohms, AFIK, however.

http://www.jolida.com/catalogue/hybridamp.shtml

Of course, that would be a non-starter if you also want this solution to work for surround sound HT, and in that case, I'll make the same offer for the NAD, if you want to try it: just pay shipping (but at 50lbs, that's not as easy a "free" trial as the JoLida would be).

Not sure how I missed this post yesterday. Thank you very much for the offer! This place is great!

As nice as the offer is with the Jolida, it's not really something I'm looking for. I am looking to go with a single receiver to give me good sound for music and movies. In my current setup and situation I just want a simple one box solution that will fit my needs for a year or two until we move to a bigger house and I can have my man cave back.

I'm still considering your NAD receiver but I'm still doing some reading on a couple other options. Thanks again!

hearingimpared
08-10-2009, 10:29 AM
This is the NAD receiver that I use. If you buy it you won't need further amplification.

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?miscrcvr&1255063293&/NAD-T765-AV-Surround-Sound-Rec

mewisemagic
08-10-2009, 11:55 AM
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