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Rocco1
09-15-2009, 10:14 PM
So my I have my PS Audio power plant primer and power pack 1500, and am now wondering what the best way to hook them up?
Do I just go with a standard 20 amp circuit or do i go 30 amp?
No i am thinking that a 50 amp circuit with custom cords is the best.
AM I CRAZY?
disneyjoe7
09-15-2009, 10:27 PM
YES you're CRAZY.
Stay there where you post this thread, I called some people to help you ;)
ben62670
09-16-2009, 12:06 AM
Check your codes. I think you are only allowed more than 20amp circuits in certain rooms. The 50amp idea is a bad one. If you ever had a fire, or were to sell the house you would be screwed. Shock hazard for animals or kids... Run some 12/3 for two dedicated 20 amp circuits. If the wire is longer than 50' run10/3 with 20 amp breakers. The main thing about dedicated circuits is that there are no other devices on that circuit to make noise. Also something a lot of people don't understand is that with standard house hold wiring you can have about 10 outlets, and a few lights on one breaker.. The problem other than noise is all those connections. A bunch of wire nuts, cheap switches, and plugs do not help. One weak connection and your system is lacking. I haven't installed my dedicated cicuit yet so I use the outlet that is the closest to the panel for the dining room with a decent extension cord. I tested that temporary circuit with about 2000 watts of Adcom amps, and the voltage never dropped while pushing it to the limit.
Rocco1
09-16-2009, 10:00 AM
Here is my game plan.
PS Audio power plant primer and power pack 1500
plugged into it will be
-Adcom 7807
-(2)Adcom 555se
-Intergra pre/pro
-Epson projector
so 5 things. The PPP has 10 outlets but i figured that those adcoms would be so much of a draw that those would be enough. The reason i thought that a 30 or 50 amp ciruit would be best is because the Adcom 7807 asks for its own dedicated 20 amp ciruit. Now I sent an email to Paul McGowan, CEO of PS Audio, and he replied saying the PPP could handle all that draw. I know the man is smart and brillant when it comes to designing this stuff, but wonder if he may have just been pushing his product.
olilugo
09-16-2009, 12:35 PM
I think you could be confusing a dedicated electric sockets with a dedicated electric panel.
I think you can have a few wall electric sockets that are each 20 amp, meaning they have a single run (electric cable) from that socket back to your electric panel and have a dedidated 20 amp braker on it. so imagen 3 or 4 such dedicated runs.
Also keep in mind that if you have a 20 amp dedicated breaker but have a 15 amp socket then you only have 15 amps to work with. a 20 amp sockets is different than a 15 amp socket and a 30 amp sockets is also different, so if they are all different that also means that you will have to replace the power cable comming from your components. to match the pin layout of the wall sokets, just something else to consider.
Last when you mention 30amp and above now you are talking about 220v sockets and they are completely different than a regular household socket outlet.
Rocco1
09-16-2009, 12:41 PM
I think you could be confusing a dedicated electric sockets with a dedicated electric panel.
I think you can have a few wall electric sockets that are each 20 amp, meaning they have a single run (electric cable) from that socket back to your electric panel and have a dedidated 20 amp braker on it. so imagen 3 or 4 such dedicated runs.
Also keep in mind that if you have a 20 amp dedicated breaker but have a 15 amp socket then you only have 15 amps to work with. a 20 amp sockets is different than a 15 amp socket and a 30 amp sockets is also different, so if they are all different that also means that you will have to replace the power cable comming from your components. to match the pin layout of the wall sokets, just something else to consider.
Last when you mention 30amp and above now you are talking about 220v sockets and they are completely different than a regular household socket outlet.
I understand how the wiring works. I was wondering if what i am offering up is a good idea. I was NOT aware that 30 amp was 220 only! So i am guessing that will not work. I will just have to run a dedicated 20amp line and hope that everything works out.
I have been told that the PPP doesnt care what type of out let you plug it into because since it regenerates its own power that it will supply the equipment with what it needs no matter what. So it can supply something with 20 amps even if it is just plugged into a regular circuit.
olilugo
09-16-2009, 12:55 PM
well just keep in mind that he is trying to sell his product. In all fairness I am not familiar nor ever used the PPP you are talking about. However I do remember that as far as just talking electrical, I happend to do a bit of woodworking so I do have 200v machines as well as 120v machines, all those wooworkers basically told me to make sure your cable run can handle the electrical current you will put on them and never to exceed the max current that the breaker can handle.
Please keep in mind I am not an electrician so my only view is from the experiences I had to supply electiricty to my woodworking machines.
I don't really know what would hapen or how does it happen that if you have a 20amp breaker the PPP can re-energize it to more amps. all I know is that if you exced the amps on the breaker the breaker will trip and or you can create a fire hazard.
if you step up to 220v then I think you can go as high as 50 amp, after that you will have to go to 440v.
I used to have a link that basically gave me all the sockets connectors for the different types of electric ratings if I find it I will add it to the thread.
Good luck on your project.
olilugo
09-16-2009, 01:18 PM
Here is a pdf, not the one I had in mind but it should help. according to the pdf you can have 30 amp for 120v but I am sure it will require a different size wire and gauge to go with it.
Rocco1
09-16-2009, 01:48 PM
here is a pdf, not the one i had in mind but it should help. According to the pdf you can have 30 amp for 120v but i am sure it will require a different size wire and gauge to go with it.
great info thank you!
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