B&K in the house!!!!

[tntvt]

Just got my new B&K AVR507 hooked up. Even without fine tuning this thing is amazing!
Thanks for the advice Mantis!:D

[polkatese]

Tntvt,
great unit! Congrats and don't forget the long 500+ words review when you are ready! I am sure Dan agrees with me on the review

[mantis]

tntvt,
O yeah there's my baby,I mean your baby.Niceman.What a world of exploring you have infront of you.
And I will also be waiting for the 500+ word review aftersometesting and playing.

[pjdami]

Tntvt,

Very sweet dude. You left enough money in the budget for a nice rack to mount that baby on didn't you?? If not who cares...you've got the best receiver out there.

What did you upgrade from?

"Made in the USA" and the B&K never lets you forget it everytime you turn it on.

Congrats and enjoy.

P.

[danger boy]

what does a unit like that run?

thanks, al

[danger boy]

what does a unit like that cost?

thanks, al

[RuSsMaN]

Bi-polar? Nail, head, hit, that whole thing. ;)

Thats so high-tone, no common man receiver here. I'm betting it set him back about as much as a used Toyota, a NICE one at that. 5spd, A/C, floormats, the WORKS.

Cheers,
Rooster

[tntvt]

Retails for 4 grand found it for 3200.00 worth every penny!
upgraded from an Onkyo 898 (Comming soon to the flea market forum).

[danger boy]

ummmmm.. tntvt, how do you wire three front channel speakers? what powers three fronts and doesn't blow an fuse?

[tntvt]

Danger Boy- With the Onkyo 898 I had the cs1000p running out of the receivers center channel and the two cs400s out the center preout into an Integra two channel amp. The B&K seems to have ample power to run the three in series. No problems yet. If any occur I'll have to purchase a B&K two channel amp.

[scottvamp]

tntvt, congrats man!!!!! Did ya get your projector yet???
I wish I had the money for your Onkyo 898. I would put it in my main HT and put my 787 in the living room HT.:(
Maybe we can work something out.;)

[BeginnersLuck]

Originally posted by tntvt
The B&K seems to have ample power to run the three in series. No problems yet. If any occur I'll have to purchase a B&K two channel amp.

What are you talking about when you say the B&K seems to have ample power to run the three in series?

I don't think you are running your center's in series...Most amps can push a center and preamp out...

-BL

[RuSsMaN]

Why can't he run his speakers in series?

[Ron-P]

My question. Did you consider seperates instead of a receiver for $3,200?


Peace Out~::D

[mantis]

Ron-P,
in my opnion there are NO seperates at 3200.00 that can take out the B&K avr507.You'll be very hard pressed to find better.I searched my tail off before I bought my B&K.The B&K is a intergraded anyway,it's like having seperates in one box.

[Ron-P]

Anyone care to list the specs on this bad boy?


Peace Out~:D

[RuSsMaN]

edited, Dan knows it all.

[mantis]

It has a Tuner in the Preamp,it's a preamp.
(ref30,ref50)
Sorry Russ try again.................

[mantis]

Doc,
you got i
AUDIO SPECS

AUDIO
AVR 507
AVR 505

Surround Sound Processing *
DOLBY DPL/DPLII/EX

DTS-ES/Neo:6

THX Ultra2
DOLBY DPL/DPLII/EX

DTS-ES/Neo:6

THX Ultra2

Power Rating 8 ohms
7 x 150w
5 x 150w

Power Rating 4 ohms
7 x 185w
5 x 185w

Damping Factor (50 Hz)
200
200

IM Distortion (SMPTE)
.09%
.09%

THD
.09%
.09%

Signal to Noise Ratio, A Weighted
95dB
95dB

Audio Inputs (Stereo)
7
7

Digital Inputs: Coax/Optical
6/5
6/5

Digital Outputs: Coax/Optical
1/1 Zone A
1/0 Zone B
1/1 Zone A
1/0 Zone B

Surround Outputs
8
8

Number of Zones A/V
2
2

Number of Amp Channels
7
5

Frequency Response
5 Hz - 45 kHz
5 Hz - 45 kHz

[RuSsMaN]

edited, Dan knows it all.

[F1nut]

Dan, it's a HOME THEATER RECEIVER. It even says so on B&K's website.

[fireshoes]

easy, boys

[wallstreet]

very, very, nice! Did you look at the Marantz SR14? That's supposed to give the B&K a run for the money.

[mantis]

then laugh then.......I'm out

[mantis]

Bottom line here........it's a receiver built like a intergraded.

[RuSsMaN]

edited, Dan knows it all.

[tntvt]

RUSS- Where did Manitis say the 507 was not a receiver?

Beginnersluck- You don't have to fret. I went to the theatre room and checked. The centers are still in series. No one changed them when I wasn't looking!

Scott- The HS10 came today! After a month on back order. If you are interested in the 898 it is one year old. I paid 1500 for it and would let it go for 500. The Ingera 2 channel amp is 2 months old, paid 300 let it go for 100.

[RuSsMaN]

edited, Dan knows it all.

[Shizelbs]

Tntvt,

I wish I had known you were going to be upgrading. I would love to take your 898 of your hands. I have the money, but only if I could find a way to get rid of my month old Onk 600.

[mantis]

Sorry Russman I never said it wasn't a receiver.
your quote of mine Russ holds no water as I was referring to the 2 preamps listed.
It has a Tuner built in, its a 'receiver'.
This is your quote of what a receiver is,then by this logic Russ,B&K's preamps are recevires since they have a tuner.
This is no different then anything else you assholes have to do.You and Troy don't have the ability to be opened minded at all.You call me dense,look in the mirror boys.........Just read the last thead Troy was trying to make me look like a asshole about adding the nessary amps to the Rotel rsx1055 to get it to 7.1 statis.Same kind of thing here.

Look If you really want to know why I call the avr307/507 a intergraded,I'll be more then happy to go deepinto detail why.If your just looking for a way to have a pissing contest,I'll pass.
Russ you disapoint me to no end Bro,We talked about "cleaning up" the forum awhile back and you haven't kept your end of the bargin.Sad.....You even caused a member to leave the forum or should I say 2,and got how many theads put into the Hall Of Shame?????????Dude make up your mind on your conduct.

I choose my path and I walk my path.........

I will take a minute to say "I'm sorry to those looking for Information about B&K on this "could have been"cool thead.You know tntvt started this thead juiced up that he bought a new RECEIVER and assholes like Russ have to or need to find reasons to cause a pissing match.Very sad.

This is exactly why so many great people leave the forum.It's a shame because Russ on IM seems to want this place to run smooth and be a really great and fun place to share Ideas and talk about what we all love......

Russ,it's your delievery not what your looking for Bro,just like when we where on IM,you just got pissed off and left out with no close,then you come right in here and copy and paste"what you need"to find a way to make me look like some kind of asshole.
Whatever dude,don't IM me anymore unless you wanna talk about a given topic.Come like that again and I will not answer back.........

Like I said,I'f anyone(including you Russ)wants to know why I call the B&Kavr507 Home Theater Receiver a Intergraded,I'll be happy to go into detail.Other then that.....forget about it.......

[TroyD]

AssholeS (as in plural) which I assume to include me, and I never said a word on this subject.

As far as this unit goes, looks a a tres cool receiver (the price is a little overwhelming but that's beside the point). Simple fact of the matter is, if you have a tuner, preamp, amp residing in the same chassis, call it what you like, but it's a receiver. Prone to the same issues that all receivers have. It's not an integrated amp by the simple fact that the all three components reside in the same chassis. Same thing with the Sunfire Ultimate Receiver. It's the Theatre Grand preamp with receiver grade amps (according to the Sunfire website). It's a receiver, a good one, but still a receiver. Period. End of story. If it could be considered an integrated amp, I'm pretty sure it would be marketed as such. Besides, what so terrible about calling it what it is?

Oh, and while I'm here, rather than going back to another post, since Dan brought it up. In the other post, I was not trying to make Dan look like an asshole. In fact, I thought I was quite civil. Adding amps to a receiver is adding amps to a receiver. Regardless of the circumstance (preouts are preouts regardless of channel) and in either case the amps aren't matching (Mantis matching theory). My point is I was confused in that Dan in one posts scoffs at the notion and in another, he endorses it. To me, that's waffling on the issue.

BDT

[TroyD]

Oh, and btw, who has left because of Russ? Faster because he got called out on leaving another forum member holding the bag? Personally, I applaud him for standing up for HBomb.


'Sherri' the female impersonator who held the answers to all of Dan's unanswered questions on if size REALLY matters? PUH-LEEZE.

I say ask rlw, OrangeToupee and juice21 and the McGowan Bros. why they aren't still here......glass houses, stones, anyone?

I say let this dog die.

BDT

[tntvt]

You know guys I want to thank you for the help!!!!! It will be a new record!!! The new guy with only 25 posts!! Starts a thread that ends up in the HALL OF SHAME!

[HBombToo]

Originally posted by TroyD
Personally, I applaud him for standing up for HBomb.

BDT

HBombToo!!!! Thanks Russman.

Henry

[fireshoes]

Originally posted by TroyD
Oh, and btw, who has left because of Russ? Faster because he got called out on leaving another forum member holding the bag? Personally, I applaud him for standing up for HBomb.


I think George left too, after the whole tard dance thing.

[scottvamp]

tntvt, I'm very interested in your 898 - your price is really fair. I can have the money in a couple weeks (or less). Email me if your interested!!!!!! scottvamp1@yahoo.com

[mantis]

TroyD,
if you read this thead,I never said the avr507 isn't a receiver.I only said you can call it an intergraded by the way it's built.

As far as the add amps to a receiver thing,as I told you,I didn't buy Rotel for this very reason(among others).Not that Rotel isn't good,I really think they build one of the best receivers on the market and top 3 in sound quality.The Mantis Theory remains......

You forgot to add George Grand to your list of people who left because of Russ.......and I will add ATCVENOM.Russ told me that George can go eff himself and he would like to kick that little ass of his.

[HBombToo]

ATC is still posting???? I read all his stuff!

HBomb is confused

[mantis]

Where??he told me he was out...........

[RuSsMaN]

ATC has posted here, and talked with me on AIM this week, doesn't seem very *gone* to me.

I never said any such thing about George, now about you, possibly. I LIKE George, whether you, him, or anyone else chooses to believe that.

Man, I've got major tired head. You guys carry on, have fun, call it a freakin' box of banana pudding for all I care.

Cheers,
Russ

[polkatese]

Dan,
I was told that the B&K silver plate cost $180 (to switch black to silver) can you confirm that? thanks,

[mantis]

polkatese,
it's 100.00.If you already have black.No charge for buying it in silver.

edited

[RuSsMaN]

Dude, I can hardly STAND you, why would I confide in you? I see this as nothing more than a futile attempt to toss me under the bus. If there is one person you can't use your Jedi mind trick on, it's Mr. Grand.

Now I have talked with George about YOU many times, but never the other way around as memory serves.

You've got a big bag, I'm not dealing with it anymore, if others want to, be my guest.

Cheers,
Russ

[mantis]

Dude you don't have to lie.

[mantis]

let me refresh your memory man.It was all over the post you made about the retard dance.When all that went down,George left the forum because of you and your mouth/typing and you know it.I talked about it over IM with you and you said Eff him and all the rest I'll leave out.You know it,I know it,stop lieing.Be a man would yeah...............

[RuSsMaN]

Big bag, said no such thing. Read the post yourself.

I'm sorry this post turned this direction, I'm done here. Polkatese tried to kick it back on track, you guys run with it and maybe it will 'miss' the hall.

How about that faceplate, what a cool option.

[mantis]

dude thats fine man........say what you want WE know the truth behind all this......it needs not be in here anyway........

[TroyD]

George's leaving had NADA to do with anything said on this forum, regardless of what anyone thinks.

I know the real story (as does Russ) and neither of us are saying diddly out of respect for those invoved.

Now chill out or I'm willing to bet we will see a resurrection of liv4fam.

Cool receiver by the way.......

BDT

[polkatese]

Thanks, Dan...

I haven't seen the silver, but everybody thinks it has such an impressive look...

reference 50 and av125.7 I think are perfect match for me! I know you think 200.7 is better, but it's such a humongous piece of unit.

http://www.bkcomp.com/AVR507_Ref200/Ref50_files/Ref50Flarge.jpg

http://www.bkcomp.com/AVR507_Ref200/ST_AV125_files/ST125_3LargeSlvFront.jpg

ain't these a beautiful pair..:p

[mantis]

polkatese,
I don't understand your logic here.Granted they are a impressive combo.I believe not enough gain is here over just going with the avr507.If you go with the Ref200.7 well thats a new league there...O man the Balanced outputs and inputs.....o yeah.
I would listen to both side by side and see if it's worth going this route or just going all the way with the ref200.7.I heard it go many times man and all I have to say is WOW......Weak in the knees and all.

[polkatese]

Dan,
it's a calculated logic based on what I have, in terms of space, heat dissipation, and shelf depth. As you know, my system is constraint by the wall unit size. I had listened to both, at about reference listening level, I didn't notice any difference. Both has balanced inputs. I had listened to 125.3 and ref 200.7 paired with ref 50. ref 200.7 is 19 inches depth, 125.7 is 16 inches. Spec wise, the only difference is dampening factor and obviously power rating. Also, ref 50 and 125.7 is almost the same height (not that it matters), sonic quality is identical...

[mantis]

Thats cool you did a side by side.Isn't it cool how B&K amps sound almost identical?I think thats cool as they really do a great job.Owning the Ref50 will yield benefits down the road as well.Huh so the Rotel is going to bedroom duty........wow high end in the bedroom,I love it.You rock man.....

[polkatese]

We'll see, one think that I haven't experienced is LSi with B&K. It is a leap of faith at this point....I used SF Grand Piano for the audition and comparisons...don't have the gears yet since I am waiting for the silver, but will let you know when it's setup. thanks..

[RuSsMaN]

Grand Piano's, what a speaker. Anything with an 'optional floor plinth' ranks fairly high, in cool factor alone.

Cheers,
Rooster

[polkatese]

yeah, Russ...when I grow up, I wanna be one!

[mantis]

polkatese,
The Sonus Faber line is one hell of a line of speakers.In all my listening and Installing speakers,Sonus has earned my respect over time.When we first got them,I didn't like them as I felt they where extremely gaudy with all the leather and all.I also felt they where over priced not sounding a whole hell of alot better the speakers costing less(Imagine that).Vienna give me a hell of a run,but I always found something a didn't care for somewhere.I would do a complete 7.1 system with Sonus(REL of course)Like the walls all the way around and the center channel.That would make for a hell of a system.
It sounds like it's a go with the Ref50....damn dude you kill it dead......alittle envy over here.I wanted the ref50 but felt it was alittle out of my priceclass as I am rebuiding my entire Home theater from ground up.....Man and your getting silver.......I must say I'm suprised.But man your going to be shocked how effin sweat it looks....it sets itself apart from the rest......you'll see.
Sound quality you will not be depressed,You might just be shocked on how well they mate together.Rotel is a hell of a good sounding receiver,but B&K has a tad better midrange(it's close man)and high's are slightly sweater.Bass seems to be alittle more forward but superclean nonetheless.B&K has a notch filter to help with a group of peaks your room will most likely have.When you get it,I can help you with the Notch filter.Read the manual(trust me it's worth spending the time).The B&K isn't the easiest to setup.Your also going to Love the THX ULTRA2 processing.I feel a THX support thead coming from you once you start using it.It makes a big difference.
SO when am I invited over for Dinner and a movie????;)

[polkatese]

Dan,
B&K has a notch filter to help with a group of peaks your room will most likely have.When you get it,I can help you with the Notch filter.Read the manual(trust me it's worth spending the time).The B&K isn't the easiest to setup.Your also going to Love the THX ULTRA2 processing.I feel a THX support thead coming from you once you start using it.It makes a big difference.

Thanks for the offer, and yes, I will be nagging you on this subject. You're right on, the ref50 setup is not straight forward, in fact, I already downloaded the bksuite into my laptop, ready to spend time learning its features. I decided with the silver since EVERYBODY that I talked to recommend silver, even the dealer! we'll see how seamless the matching with the rest of the gears!

One other thing, I am dying to do a shoot out, side by side, between the two. I read somewhere, a guy was auditioning to go with 1065 and decided to do a shootout at his house, between 1066/1075. In his opinion, there is a very distinct and noticable difference in tonal quality. Needless to say, he went with the separates. Personally, I really like 1065, it's very clean and detailed sounding. So, I am keeping it....

btw, anytime you are in the neighborhood, you're invited!

[mantis]

Very cool polkatese,
Can't wait untill you get it.I would be a great read to hear the difference between B&K and Rotel(your views anyway,I already voiced mine).
Silver is IN right now so everyone is HOT for it,even me and I'm never really into "whats hot now".I have been beat on the black or all black gear for awhile,maybe why I like the look of Pioneer Elite,at least it's shinny instead of flat.......
If I'm in the neibhorhood,I'll be sure to let you know ahead of time......Thanks man.