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Soccerplyr
04-03-2003, 02:40 PM
My friends father decided to build a dedicated hometheater room. I've convinced him to buy a full set of LSi speakers. He's got about $1000 to buy a receiver and I'm was hoping for some input on which to buy. Currently he's thinking of an Onkyo TXSR-800 (likes my 700, but wants 7.1).
Thanks
Jeff
Zero
04-03-2003, 03:02 PM
Soccer Player,

If this individuals budget is limited to a one-thousand dollar reciever, perhaps it would be better for him to choose the RTi series, which is much better suited for that price range.

The LSi's are fantastic speakers, but they need high-quality amplification and processing. Denon, Pioneer, Oink, etc.....simply will not give the LSi's justice and only give you a very minute hint at what they are capable of.

If this person is willing to lay down some extra green (a few hundred more) on a source, convince him to take a serious look at the Rotel RSX-1055 A/V Reciever. I have had the pleasure of hearing this thing at work, it completely blows away the competition.

The precise retail tag escapes me, I believe it is around 1200.00....but dont quote me on that.
Soccerplyr
04-03-2003, 03:34 PM
that's exactly what I said (Rotel). I think the he has some hook-up with the 800 thats why he wants it. He seems pretty open to my suggestions and the money appears to be no problem. The $1000 price range I feel was just a round figure so $200 shouldn't be to hard of an upgrade.
gshisme
04-03-2003, 03:45 PM
Chech out this thread...need juice for new LSi's..which amp? in this forum.
TonyPTX
04-03-2003, 04:56 PM
I agree with ATC here. I love the new 1055. It's a great home theater reciever that does 5.1 out the box and is upgradeble to 7.1 with an external amp.

If the person in question is set on the Onk 800, I honestly doubt it will have sufficent power to drive a full LSi speaker series to they're full potential. Chances are, he'll have to buy some external amps to drive the mains and center channel, which will easily put the cost of the entire system well over the cost of the Rotel 1055. I picked mine up for $1150 including tax (demo unit). It can be had (new) for $1250 including tax.

Tony
rickfaldo
04-03-2003, 11:11 PM
This is an old horse we are beating. LSi speakers and Onkyo/Integra, and the others mentioned above are not, I repeat, not compatible. The 4 ohm and under requirements of the LSi will "kill" the Onkyo. That is an observation, not speculation. If you check earlier postings on this forum, you will see a lengthy discussion on this matter. Rotel is your best bet, and this is not from observation but others observations. Otherwise you will be joining my club of now deciding whether to start over or add a power amp and go from there.
Good luck
Rick
Soccerplyr
04-03-2003, 11:54 PM
Thank you all. He felt that he needed more opinions then my own (I think he might of thought i was BSing him)and after everyones responses he's not going to get the Onkyo. Felt a little underhanded doing it, but when you want to prove a point sometimes you have to beat a dead horse.
Frank Z
04-04-2003, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by gshisme
Chech out this thread...need juice for new LSi's..which amp? in this forum.


???
mantis
04-04-2003, 08:21 AM
Soccerplyr
Your not beating a dead horse.It's goingto come up everytime someone is looking......and buying Lsi series speakers.Unlike Rt series where you can just about drive them with anything,Lsi are not so forgiving.
F1nut
04-04-2003, 12:41 PM
Frank,


Here......http://clubpolk.polkaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8875
Frank Z
04-04-2003, 04:32 PM
F1nut,
Thank you.
gshisme
04-04-2003, 07:04 PM
F1nut, thanks for the thread direction for FrankZ.

Anyway, I will spending the weekend traveling to listen to the LSi's with Rotel and B&K seperates. I will be putting on some miles but look forward to it.
F1nut
04-04-2003, 07:44 PM
We want a full report when you get back.
gshisme
04-04-2003, 07:55 PM
Will do...unless I bring home a componet or two then it could be a while untill I decide to leave the room!!
F1nut
04-04-2003, 08:00 PM
Understandable.
mantis
04-04-2003, 09:51 PM
very understandable............
F1nut
04-04-2003, 10:15 PM
Is there a echo in here.....
gshisme
04-06-2003, 02:56 PM
Holy sh##. After auditioning a few components this weekend I can see this UPGRADE thing getting out of hand real quick.

Mantis...You stated that B&K has a preamp with a phono input...which preamp??

One thing for sure..the B&K 125.7 should satisfy my needs now and well into the future.
mantis
04-06-2003, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by gshisme
Holy sh##. After auditioning a few components this weekend I can see this UPGRADE thing getting out of hand real quick.

Mantis...You stated that B&K has a preamp with a phono input...which preamp??

One thing for sure..the B&K 125.7 should satisfy my needs now and well into the future.
B&K doesn't have Phono inputs on any of there receivers ro preamps.The sell the phono preamp seperately.You canplug it into any of the unused inputs on the back.
gshisme
04-06-2003, 04:44 PM
Mantis, sorry about that. I'm still just an ignorant newbie that LOVES my new hobby. Will check into that phono preamp. Thanks
polkatese
04-06-2003, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by gshisme
Holy sh##. After auditioning a few components this weekend I can see this UPGRADE thing getting out of hand real quick.

Mantis...You stated that B&K has a preamp with a phono input...which preamp??

One thing for sure..the B&K 125.7 should satisfy my needs now and well into the future.

gshisme,
yes, as you experienced, the petite, handsome 125.7 is no slouch. It's not going to be like its big bro ref 200.7, but you would be hard pressed to overdrive it, not to mention some spare coins to be spend on other equally pressing upgrades :lol:
Rotarydude
10-22-2003, 04:07 AM
There are other options. ATI and Anthem. I don't know about the Outlaw, a friend of mine has one...its can handle some major volume, but it didn't sound that great to me.
rookiejk
10-22-2003, 05:07 PM
What makes you guys think that the Rotel 1055 Receiver can handle a full Lsi setup. Do any of you have experience? I have a full Lsi setup and tried to use a Denon receiver and it's not working. I need something that can handle the speakers, but don't want to pay 2-3k for seperates or a receiver.
F1nut
10-22-2003, 06:05 PM
Sometimes you just have to PAY to play. I think this is one of those times.
polkatese
10-22-2003, 07:13 PM
rookie,
I have Rotel distance cousin RSX-1065 and the beast drive my LSi with ease. There are also several forum members owned 1055 with LSi, do your search to read what they said about the combo.
mantis
10-23-2003, 12:09 AM
I gotta agree with F1nut and I'll take it a step further.

If your not willing to spend the money on the proper amp or receiver to drikve the Lsi's then why did you buy them

I have plenty of experience with just about every receiver made.

Rotel being one of them.

Dan
rookiejk
10-23-2003, 01:06 AM
I have no problem spending the money on components to drive the speakers, I just wanted to avoid another spending spree. If you have experience in this area, what Rotel components do you recommend. Is the RSX 1055 enough or should I make the move to a pre/pro setup with the 1066 & 1075?

Is there any comparable seperates that are in the same price range, say the 2k range?
dorokusai
10-23-2003, 01:14 AM
Current supply is what kills most components running LSi's....you need a high current Amplifier/ AVR period. The Rotel is capable of doing that, just to name one. Mantis is very familiar with that company.

I will generalize and say that most commericial brands aren't up to the task of driving LSi's. You have to step up into the TOTL or get into un-common manufacturers. I think that is a fair comment.

Seperates? Of course. New or Used? Its a loaded question.