CDP/SACD Choice @ around 2k

[beardog03]

If you had 2k to 2.5k to purchase a new or used CDP, what would your choices be between these players...and why ?

I tried to make it a poll, but cannot figure out how to do it..:rolleyes:

These are my curent choices/selections;

Cary Audio 303/300 (used)
Music Fidelity A5.5 (used)
Musical Fidelity A1008CD (new)
Jolida jd-100 w/level 2 mod (new)
BAT VKD5se (used)


If you have other options, please fill in the blanks

I would like to get a SACD player, but the one I want is 8k new, and 4k used (Cary 306 pro), and out of range at the moment !!

Or maybe the MF kw SACD Player....also out of reach !

Whatever I get has to marry well with my other Cary Gear..(amp and pre)

I need to go to a new level in CD playback, as I am going to sell my MD-102 to finance this and my retubing of the V12 amp.


SO, whaadaya think ?!!

[Face]

Marantz SA-15S2.

Nice warm, full sound
SACD
Digital input for Squeezebox/Music Server
Solid construction

[beardog03]

sorry for the double post...I was trying to make my first poll !!

Thanks Face....I hadn`t thought of this one !

[polkatese]

Here is one to consider Robert:

http://modwright.com/modifications/7

I believed in tube-modded SACD player, I have one from APLHifi from several years ago. I spoke with Dan Wright back then, and from what I heard, he is an outstanding gent who always stand behind his products. Have fun shopping!

[BlueFox]

I was going to suggest the Sony XA-5400ES SACD/CD at $1299 list, but the ModWright price is another $1995.

Of course, they do say "This is THE BEST sounding CD/SACD modified player that ModWright has produced to date"

http://www.modwright.com/modifications/15

[tonyb]

Thought I saw a KW sacd player on the gon for 2200. If thats what you really want. Hell,I could live with any MF cdp.

[beardog03]

I forgot about this one..


http://www.upscaleaudio.com/Njoe-Tjoeb-4000-with-SuperTubeClock_p_13.html

Ton,
That is the one I was considering..

Thanks for the responses guys...
I was thinking about the Modwright also, but wasn`t sure.

I would like to get into SACD, but want a CDP that will make it to the next upgrade in a few years...if ever !!
I have heard the Modwright mods are some of the best, but both of those are $3500 at least

[schwarcw]

Here is one to consider Robert:

http://modwright.com/modifications/7

I believed in tube-modded SACD player, I have one from APLHifi from several years ago. I spoke with Dan Wright back then, and from what I heard, he is an outstanding gent who always stand behind his products. Have fun shopping!

Right on Frances! I have the Modwright Sony 999 with the Platinum Truth mods (ByBees, etc). I really enjoy this player above any other that I have. I enjoy using the Tung Sol 5687s. I have used the Bendix 6900's also, which are a touch too analytical for me. I found the Tung Sols to be a little warmer. Great player! Several Forum members own the Modwright 9100. I enjoy this player also.

[BlueFox]

Simply for CDs, another alternative in the $2K range is the Bryston BDA-1 DAC at $1999. Use your current CD player as the transport.

http://bryston.com/bda1_m.html

[beardog03]

so with the Bryston DAC, it wouldn`t matter what cdp I use with it ?

They would all pretty much sound the same ?

[BlueFox]

so with the Bryston DAC, it wouldn`t matter what cdp I use with it ?

They would all pretty much sound the same ?

Yes and no. The DAC probably is responsible for the overall sound quality, but you can get into the "discussion" that transport 'x' sounds better than transport 'y' due to less jitter, but the Bryston is supposed to do a good job of jitter elimination/reduction. Also, you will need a decent SPDIF cable between the CD and DAC.

I upgraded my Benchmark DAC1 to the Bryston and noticed an improvement in sound quality. I am using the Sony XA-5400ES as the transport. After I added brass vibration footers to the Sony there also was a noticable sound improvement.

[beardog03]

Do you think that the Jolida tubed CDP would work well with this DAC ?

I also have heard very good things about the Benchmark DAC in previous discussions here on the board.....it was probably , at least last year !

We have had many of these types of discussions, some got rather heated !!, and I was curious back then, bu tI am now seriously planning on an upgrade so I want everybodies help.

The other option is to wait untill I have the coin for the Cary 306 (preferably the pro version) and that could be at least another 6 months or better....not that I am in that big ofa hurry, but....

[BlueFox]

Do you think that the Jolida tubed CDP would work well with this DAC ?

I have no idea, to be honest. If it has a digital output then that is all that is needed.

[GV#27]

Do you think that the Jolida tubed CDP would work well with this DAC ?

Yes but don't forget that the tubed analog section of the CDP will be bypassed when using the DAC.As BF mentioned the Bryston's jitter reduction is such that it should "play nice" with most any transport.

[beardog03]

Thanks for the help !

It has definately opened up another possability

[shack]

I would seriously consider the Sony SCD-XA5400ES. Sony does SACD very well and this is said to maybe be Sony's best SACD player ever.

[SCompRacer]

....Great player! Several Forum members own the Modwright 9100. I enjoy this player also.

I have a Platinum Level ModWright 9100ES. High current, low distortion Class A tube design. Another pair of great tubes and currently residing in mine are Sylvania 5687GB's (Gold Brand). They are a slightly warmer tube compared to the Tung Sol's. If you want to use my 6900's in the Sony, I put the Sylvania's in my ModWright SWLP pre amp.

[danz1906]

I would seriously consider the Sony SCD-XA5400ES. Sony does SACD very well and this is said to maybe be Sony's best SACD player ever.

Agreed,also a used Marantz Sa-11S2:)

[Ern Dog]

I'm also looking to upgrade my Bada to a nice reference cd/SACD player, so this thread is helpful.

My experience says to go with your heart's desire- it sounds like that is the Cary 306 pro. I'd save up for the 6 months and go all out.

[187CAM]

The one in my sig modded by Modwright or Bill Thalmann. Or the Marantz SA11S2.

[Ricardo]

Nothing wrong with the Marantz SA11-S1.

Any Denon or Sony modded by Matt at sacdmods.com

[TroyD]

I have the SCD-555ES modded by Matt at sacdmods.com.....pick up a 555ES and send it to him. You will NOT be disappointed.

Honestly, I'd stay away from the MF stuff. Not for sound but for reliability/service issues.

BDT

[beardog03]

thanks for all the help

[Phil Dawson]

Check out a Lexicon RT-20. Now discontinued but they were 5K new. They can be had for about 1k +- now. It is a universal player CD, SACD, DVD-V, DVD-A, etc. This is and incredible player and you'll have money left over for a good blu-ray player or whatever. At least check out some of the reviews on the lexicon.
Good Luck, Phil

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[reeltrouble1]

get an Esoteric, maybe an SA-60 in the used market......just do not settle Robert.....your better than that.

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[dkg999]

I have the Jolida 100 CDP and I thought it's tubed analog output sounded better than using it's digital out with several different DAC's, including the Channel Islands and the PS Audio DL3.

I would go for an SACD player if that format interests you. SComp's Modwright sounds fantastic. I've heard the Esoteric players and they are fantastic.

[vc69]

I'm curious what makes the players so damn expensive. Am I wrong in guessing that it is the nature of a product that has a narrow band target consumer? Is it the fact that they cannot be mass-produced and are more or less hand crafted? I get that the build quality and such is better but holy crap!:(

I want to find that magical player too, but I can't even afford to look at players in the 2k range. At least not today.

I am considering the SE upgrade to my -83 which would mean I have ~850 in my player. Would I be better off pursuing a separate UDP?

You guys kill me! :p

[reeltrouble1]

You guys kill me! :p

yea, but first we ensure you go to your grave so broke your stuffed cross-legged into a Bose 321 box.........

its what we do

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[vc69]

But I will surely have a smile on my face.

And thanks a lot by the way. ;)

[beardog03]

I had my sights set on the cary 306 Pro, but that`s alot of coin

The Jolida does a good job, but I know I can do better !

[reeltrouble1]

well you have kinda been Cary guy for as long as I can remember.........somehow I have a feeling that nothing but that player is going to satisfy your curiosity.

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[beardog03]

Or the cary 303/300 !!
It`s just that the 303 is a few years old, and....

your right, here I go talking myself into it again !!

[reeltrouble1]

man can you imagine how it would look with pre on your rack and the V-12's on the floor.......I can............

hehehehehe

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[beardog03]

SLP98L on top
306 Pro in the middle
V12 on the bottom


I`m just missing the 306 !!

[reeltrouble1]

so what color do you see..............they are all nice.

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[beardog03]

My pre is Jag blue w/ silver face and the amp is red w/black face

I will probably get the siver CDP

[TroyD]

I'm monkeying with my privates thinking about that rig.

BDT

[beardog03]

:eek:

I really like the way she sounds....

After the CDP, my next move is speaker cables ;)

[janmike]

I know that some of the Esoteric SCAD's are a little above your budget Robert, but I could not be happier with my Esoteric X-03. Maybe not the X series, but they do make a great product. Good luck to you my friend in what ever you select.

[Ern Dog]

Hit up that Cary 306 SACD player sitting on audiogon for $2500. She looks gorgeous in Silver. Oh baby!

[comfortablycurt]

I was going to suggest the Sony XA-5400ES SACD/CD at $1299 list, but the ModWright price is another $1995.

Of course, they do say "This is THE BEST sounding CD/SACD modified player that ModWright has produced to date"

http://www.modwright.com/modifications/15

Drool!:eek:

Sometime down the road when I upgrade my 2 ch. source again, the XA5400ES is probably what I'll end up going with.

Then I can start dreaming about having those mods performed someday!!

Damn this hobby!..lol

[reeltrouble1]

Hit up that Cary 306 SACD player sitting on audiogon for $2500. She looks gorgeous in Silver. Oh baby!

so did you? did you? come on we wanna know??? did you?

are we there yet? are we there yet?

come on Bear. give the seller a ballpeen wack.

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[beardog03]

Hit up that Cary 306 SACD player sitting on audiogon for $2500. She looks gorgeous in Silver. Oh baby!

I keep loking at that !
I also have my eye on the Demo 303/300


It will be another week or so, maybe more, we shall see

I need to sell my Magnum Dybalab MD102

any takers ?!

[reeltrouble1]

what.....next week your just going to be a week older.....one less week to listen before the big dirt nap......after that who cares????? you gonna have to build another rig for the Big Gig in the Sky.

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[beardog03]

My wife is gonna love you !!!

I have to do what many here do...sneak it in !!

I want that 306 that was mentioned a couple of postst earlier, but I am hesitant because they made so many upgrades from the 306 to the 306 pro....

[reeltrouble1]

so get the pro, if you do not you always will wish you had, you know it, but if budget is a concern get the lesser now and the newer one down the road, just gonna cost you a bit more in the long run.

hey there are a bunch of wives here I have to steer a wide path from........my fear is they will find each other, band together and post a bounty so high one or these boys cant resist and slips hemlock in my drink at the next PF!!!!!!!:eek:

[beardog03]

so get the pro, if you do not you always will wish you had, you know it, but if budget is a concern get the lesser now and the newer one down the road, just gonna cost you a bit more in the long run.

hey there are a bunch of wives here I have to steer a wide path from........my fear is they will find each other, band together and post a bounty so high one or these boys cant resist and slips hemlock in my drink at the next PF!!!!!!!:eek:

waaaaaaaaa


you are right about the Pro version though....
it will take some time to come up with that much coin......i`m trying to sell stuff fast as i can !!!

[reeltrouble1]

atta boy thats the ticket. you gotta have stuff to get stuff, hey, I should write that one down

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