Vr3MxStyler2k3
04-09-2003, 11:03 PM
Hello Gentleman!
How yall fellas doin? Im doing just fine, listening to music! LOL!, Who couldn't of guessed that. The following review was done with many bands. Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Good Charolette, Simple Plan. They were all listened to around -27 through -35. For exstended periods of around 2 hours in different parts of the days. I hope you like this review as it will be my effin last one. I felt my last review on this setup did not glorify what I felt. So, I redid it and covered alot more stuff. I hope you enjoy my review and so forth. Goodbye
-MX-
System Break Down:
Receiver: Pioneer Elite VSX-41
Main Amp: Adcom GFA-545II
Mains: Rt35i
Center: CS245i
Surrounds: RT25i
Subwoofer: M&K MX-90
Wire: HD
Cables: RS Gold Series
CD Player: Yamaha CDC-585 (I think)
To see how its setup go to the system showcase you lazy mofos!
I have been listening to this speaker for a while, and I am more impressed now since I have heard many more high end speakers.
Here is my exstended review, I am going to try the best I can.
Placement:
- Placement is very important to the RT35i. I dont think firing them straight ahead is right for them, I have tried it, I just didn't get what I get now. I have found that my sweetspot with them is slightly left to the center and the slightly turn of the Rt35i will throw off the sound. The placement on mine is pretty basic, each in a corner the right pointed directly at the sweet spot and the left pointing in, right to the sweet spot aiming more towards the TV than me. In doing this the voices are centered and the drums are behind the singer. So placement is very important to this speaker!
Power:
- Power! Yes, there is no comparison of these speakers on seperates. Receivers do them nothing, they sound fine on receivers but nothing like they do on seperates. I am amazed. With receivers, they sound dry. Humdrum, just not alive. With seperates, the midrange just opens. Vocals are more clear, drums come in more natural and the guitar sorda flows. The quality of the Watts being drove them like any speaker does them much justice! Im not saying to go out and buy an amp, but it does them much justice none the less.
Treble:
- Treble, the treble on the RT35i, is sometimes too forward at times. But with the placement I have and the amp; they are relatively smooth and natural. They exstend to as far as they go and dont strain theirselves like they did on the Yamaha. The difference is amazing, the Treble is much more smoother and more laid back, like I have heard Polk is known for. However I still find most speakers I hear sound better in this area, sad really!
Midrange & Bass:
- Midrange, with the amp the midrange is clear, open, and airy. I have not heard a speaker costing 2 times the cost that sound as open as the RT35i on seperates. The midrange is superb. No chestyness in the vocals, and it's not boomy. The vocals roll off the speaker very smoothly. Not to mention these speakers have ALOT of bass. I mean a crazy amount of bass, 50hz my @$$. Its not boomy, but tight, accurate bass. I love the sound this speakers produces now. When it was ran by the Yamaha it was dry and sounded like a box was placed over it. It was just boreing to listen to. Everything was on a side and infront of you. Now junk is just everywhere!
Soundstage:
- Soundstage, The soundstage is EXCELLANT, nothing like Def Tech though. The vocals are perfectly centered, the drums in the back right behind the singer, and not overwhelming! The guitars are on the sides and run through VERY smoothly and dont sound artificle (sp) as I find most Bose speakers sound. The drums, the snare sounds too artificail for me. They sound to dull, my friend has drums and it sounds nothing like that. Other than that, the midrange carries this operation very well. The sound effects are all over the place, stuff flys behind you, around you - just all over the place. This would of never been accomplished with the Yamaha, the Yamaha would be running for higher ground right about now in this review!
SPL:
- SPL, these speakers unlike with the Yamaha can pump the SPL, I swear they can play well into -27 (On the PE) and still sound clear (in my room). This is too loud for me, I can only take 1 or 2 songs, other than that I play them around -35. I find these speakers to sound best around -30. Thats when they seem to be really set free and go loose and do their thing.
Overall:
- Overall, I really like these speakers. I am not sorry for purchasing these speakers over a year ago. It was well worth it in every way. They have been driven with many things, A Sony, Yamaha Receiver, and now an Adcom amp. I tell ya Adcom mates VERY well with the RT line. They are like Dad and Son for god sakes. Its like they were blood. The highs are so tamed by the Adcom is nothing to joke about. Its well worth ranting over. I couldnt believe my ears!
Adcom:
- Adcom, So many people look over Adcom and head straight to Rotel, and B&K and all of them. I tell ya Adcom isn't here to play. Any person here that owns their gear will tell you their not here to play around. They sound like their there to own the place, and they make a speaker sound like a speaker and not a POS. It is an amp, and it sounds effin awesome. I would not drop Adcom from your list when shopping for an amp. They are the real deal. I have looked inside this thing, GIGANTIC amps, heavy guage wire, gigantic heat syncs, huge chips. Its high quality! Its a heavy SOB too! lol! However the Adcom gets really hot (and I do mean heat), I couldnt believe how hot it actually had became, although it dosn't get all that hot since my speakers are a literal breeze for it to drive!
Pioneer Elite:
- Pioneer Elite, I have heard this receiver against the 3802. I preferred the PE. It sounded much better in the highs and the mids and even the lows. I thought the 3802 sounded really bad. Etchy highs, boomy lows, humdrum mids. I didnt give an iota for it. It totally blowed! The Pioneer Elite however, it sounded alive, the highs were together and the Bass was tight. I have thoroughly enjoyed this receiver, out of date or not. It kicks literally! However its not even up to par with Adcom. There is no comparison! This receiver has somewhat dirty watts, just not completely clean. This receiver GETS VERY EFFIN HOT my god, even at moderate volumes and when the internal amps are not even being used. However when you kick it past -40, the PE has an internal fan that turns on and it keeps it cool. It can run at -27 literally cold for a period of 3 hours. (I would know this because I left it running and went outside to play basketball and go around the neighborhood). Overall the PE was well worth the purchase and I have found the receiver that I will be keeping for a long long time!
Audio Growth:
- Audio growth, I have really learned to listen to a speaker in the past year, I don't listen to music that loud anymore as I have found music sounds best at -40 or so. However every once in a while when I hear a song I really like, I CRANK IT! I have learned from my Dad to listen to the speaker and not the loudness, and people from here (Russ, Troy, Frank, Tour, ScottVamp, F1, ATC, many more) I want to thank all of you that have helped me the past year (close to a year) grow in my audio listening and my education of audio. All of you guys have helped me greatly, and if it weren't for all of you I'd probally still be listening to the Polk's on a Yamaha wondering why the heck it sounded so bad! LOL! You are all great people and a real crack, especailly Russ! LOL! He might get on people's nerves but overall hes just a great guy that is a pain in the butt! lol! I have enjoyed it all, but I must say and no one has done anything - and Im not exactly leaving - but since it is sunny outside, and its warm weather its time for me to take my toll outside, playing and in the gym etc. So I will not be posting as much, and once again I want to thank you all for your help in my learning in the Audio world. I have learned a whole lot!
How yall fellas doin? Im doing just fine, listening to music! LOL!, Who couldn't of guessed that. The following review was done with many bands. Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Good Charolette, Simple Plan. They were all listened to around -27 through -35. For exstended periods of around 2 hours in different parts of the days. I hope you like this review as it will be my effin last one. I felt my last review on this setup did not glorify what I felt. So, I redid it and covered alot more stuff. I hope you enjoy my review and so forth. Goodbye
-MX-
System Break Down:
Receiver: Pioneer Elite VSX-41
Main Amp: Adcom GFA-545II
Mains: Rt35i
Center: CS245i
Surrounds: RT25i
Subwoofer: M&K MX-90
Wire: HD
Cables: RS Gold Series
CD Player: Yamaha CDC-585 (I think)
To see how its setup go to the system showcase you lazy mofos!
I have been listening to this speaker for a while, and I am more impressed now since I have heard many more high end speakers.
Here is my exstended review, I am going to try the best I can.
Placement:
- Placement is very important to the RT35i. I dont think firing them straight ahead is right for them, I have tried it, I just didn't get what I get now. I have found that my sweetspot with them is slightly left to the center and the slightly turn of the Rt35i will throw off the sound. The placement on mine is pretty basic, each in a corner the right pointed directly at the sweet spot and the left pointing in, right to the sweet spot aiming more towards the TV than me. In doing this the voices are centered and the drums are behind the singer. So placement is very important to this speaker!
Power:
- Power! Yes, there is no comparison of these speakers on seperates. Receivers do them nothing, they sound fine on receivers but nothing like they do on seperates. I am amazed. With receivers, they sound dry. Humdrum, just not alive. With seperates, the midrange just opens. Vocals are more clear, drums come in more natural and the guitar sorda flows. The quality of the Watts being drove them like any speaker does them much justice! Im not saying to go out and buy an amp, but it does them much justice none the less.
Treble:
- Treble, the treble on the RT35i, is sometimes too forward at times. But with the placement I have and the amp; they are relatively smooth and natural. They exstend to as far as they go and dont strain theirselves like they did on the Yamaha. The difference is amazing, the Treble is much more smoother and more laid back, like I have heard Polk is known for. However I still find most speakers I hear sound better in this area, sad really!
Midrange & Bass:
- Midrange, with the amp the midrange is clear, open, and airy. I have not heard a speaker costing 2 times the cost that sound as open as the RT35i on seperates. The midrange is superb. No chestyness in the vocals, and it's not boomy. The vocals roll off the speaker very smoothly. Not to mention these speakers have ALOT of bass. I mean a crazy amount of bass, 50hz my @$$. Its not boomy, but tight, accurate bass. I love the sound this speakers produces now. When it was ran by the Yamaha it was dry and sounded like a box was placed over it. It was just boreing to listen to. Everything was on a side and infront of you. Now junk is just everywhere!
Soundstage:
- Soundstage, The soundstage is EXCELLANT, nothing like Def Tech though. The vocals are perfectly centered, the drums in the back right behind the singer, and not overwhelming! The guitars are on the sides and run through VERY smoothly and dont sound artificle (sp) as I find most Bose speakers sound. The drums, the snare sounds too artificail for me. They sound to dull, my friend has drums and it sounds nothing like that. Other than that, the midrange carries this operation very well. The sound effects are all over the place, stuff flys behind you, around you - just all over the place. This would of never been accomplished with the Yamaha, the Yamaha would be running for higher ground right about now in this review!
SPL:
- SPL, these speakers unlike with the Yamaha can pump the SPL, I swear they can play well into -27 (On the PE) and still sound clear (in my room). This is too loud for me, I can only take 1 or 2 songs, other than that I play them around -35. I find these speakers to sound best around -30. Thats when they seem to be really set free and go loose and do their thing.
Overall:
- Overall, I really like these speakers. I am not sorry for purchasing these speakers over a year ago. It was well worth it in every way. They have been driven with many things, A Sony, Yamaha Receiver, and now an Adcom amp. I tell ya Adcom mates VERY well with the RT line. They are like Dad and Son for god sakes. Its like they were blood. The highs are so tamed by the Adcom is nothing to joke about. Its well worth ranting over. I couldnt believe my ears!
Adcom:
- Adcom, So many people look over Adcom and head straight to Rotel, and B&K and all of them. I tell ya Adcom isn't here to play. Any person here that owns their gear will tell you their not here to play around. They sound like their there to own the place, and they make a speaker sound like a speaker and not a POS. It is an amp, and it sounds effin awesome. I would not drop Adcom from your list when shopping for an amp. They are the real deal. I have looked inside this thing, GIGANTIC amps, heavy guage wire, gigantic heat syncs, huge chips. Its high quality! Its a heavy SOB too! lol! However the Adcom gets really hot (and I do mean heat), I couldnt believe how hot it actually had became, although it dosn't get all that hot since my speakers are a literal breeze for it to drive!
Pioneer Elite:
- Pioneer Elite, I have heard this receiver against the 3802. I preferred the PE. It sounded much better in the highs and the mids and even the lows. I thought the 3802 sounded really bad. Etchy highs, boomy lows, humdrum mids. I didnt give an iota for it. It totally blowed! The Pioneer Elite however, it sounded alive, the highs were together and the Bass was tight. I have thoroughly enjoyed this receiver, out of date or not. It kicks literally! However its not even up to par with Adcom. There is no comparison! This receiver has somewhat dirty watts, just not completely clean. This receiver GETS VERY EFFIN HOT my god, even at moderate volumes and when the internal amps are not even being used. However when you kick it past -40, the PE has an internal fan that turns on and it keeps it cool. It can run at -27 literally cold for a period of 3 hours. (I would know this because I left it running and went outside to play basketball and go around the neighborhood). Overall the PE was well worth the purchase and I have found the receiver that I will be keeping for a long long time!
Audio Growth:
- Audio growth, I have really learned to listen to a speaker in the past year, I don't listen to music that loud anymore as I have found music sounds best at -40 or so. However every once in a while when I hear a song I really like, I CRANK IT! I have learned from my Dad to listen to the speaker and not the loudness, and people from here (Russ, Troy, Frank, Tour, ScottVamp, F1, ATC, many more) I want to thank all of you that have helped me the past year (close to a year) grow in my audio listening and my education of audio. All of you guys have helped me greatly, and if it weren't for all of you I'd probally still be listening to the Polk's on a Yamaha wondering why the heck it sounded so bad! LOL! You are all great people and a real crack, especailly Russ! LOL! He might get on people's nerves but overall hes just a great guy that is a pain in the butt! lol! I have enjoyed it all, but I must say and no one has done anything - and Im not exactly leaving - but since it is sunny outside, and its warm weather its time for me to take my toll outside, playing and in the gym etc. So I will not be posting as much, and once again I want to thank you all for your help in my learning in the Audio world. I have learned a whole lot!