You want Aerosmith's "Rocks" on SACD? Here's your chance

[Danny Tse]

Don't let it get away....

http://cgi.ebay.com/Aerosmith-ROCKS-rarest-SACD-audiophile-metal-hard-rock_W0QQitemZ260536161013QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic _Other_Formats?hash=item3ca92a52f5#ht_500wt_1182

[mmadden28]

Small drill hole through jewel case and tray insert on back

I don't get that--why on earth would anybody do that?
And why doesn't the seller replace the case?

Is it really that rare? or is the guy off his rocker? (I'm thinking the latter)

[Danny Tse]

Is it really that rare? or is the guy off his rocker? (I'm thinking the latter)

It is the only known copy of this album on SACD.

[headrott]

I don't get that--why on earth would anybody do that?
And why doesn't the seller replace the case?

Is it really that rare? or is the guy off his rocker? (I'm thinking the latter)

First off, let me say that anyone who pays this amount is insane (even more insane that the guy selling it for that price).

Typically the reason the drill hole is put into the CD case is because it's a promotional copy of the CD. Ususally, it's throught the SKU though, so I don't know why this has it where it is.

[F1nut]

Way cool.

[Lasareath]

I have a Client who managed aerosmith for their first 7 or 8 albums, I just emailed him to see if he can get that sacd! LOL

[coolsax]

being as its the only known one in existence I don't blame him for trying to get as much for it as he can..

[vmaxer]

I have a Client who managed aerosmith for their first 7 or 8 albums, I just emailed him to see if he can get that sacd! LOL

Keep us posted:cool:

[TNRabbit]

Didn't someone on here say they had a SACD copy of "Rocks" about a week ago?? I think the seller is full of sh*t.

[vc69]

http://www.amazon.com/Rocks-Aerosmith/dp/B00004SGNL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1263245766&sr=8-1

I would imagine there are a couple copies floating around. Wish I owned one.

[inspiredsports]

I wish even half of the CD's I own were worth as that much each. I'd retire tomorrow! :D

[vc69]

LoL... I have a sneaking suspicion he isn't going to fetch his asking price.

[Lasareath]

Keep us posted:cool:


He replied with one word, "crazy"

[Lasareath]

Here's the guy who is selling it on some other forum

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=84094&page=8

"CS 57363"

[Danny Tse]

I've paid some crazy $$$ for an used CD myself, but....$12.5K for a SACD? I mean, that would be a very good down payment on a new car.

[inspiredsports]

Maybe they'll play it live for $12.5K at the next PolkFest if we all chip in. :)

[vc69]

I'll bet you could find out their booking price. I feel certain it's a tad higher than 12.5k ;)

[inspiredsports]

I'll bet you could find out their booking price. I feel certain it's a tad higher than 12.5k ;)

I know they aren't playing Vegas yet, but they aren't getting any younger.

Maybe by next PolkFest . . . :)

[F1nut]

http://www.amazon.com/Rocks-Aerosmith/dp/B00004SGNL/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1263245766&sr=8-1

I would imagine there are a couple copies floating around. Wish I owned one.

Those 163 reviews are for the Redbook version.

[Lasareath]

Those 163 reviews are for the Redbook version.


Redwhat?

[wutadumsn23]

Redwhat?


Check it out Sal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book_(audio_CD_standard)

-Jeff

[vc69]

Those 163 reviews are for the Redbook version.

I was more posting that for the listing saying:

"This item has been discontinued by the manufacturer."

They list a SN for the item.

[F1nut]

Gotcha.

IIRC, they also had/have a listing for "In The Court Of The Crimson King" on SACD, which never happened. However, it recently happened on DVD-A, a year after that format died.

[pitdogg2]

I've paid some crazy $$$ for an used CD myself, but....$12.5K for a SACD? I mean, that would be a very good down payment on a new car.


plain ol stereo non the less I could see paying it if it was multi-channel:rolleyes: but not 2ch...ROFLMAO:)

[inspiredsports]

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[unc2701]

I swear I've seen a DVD-A version of this. Which when you consider the source material is going to be tape, there's no benefit to DSD.

[mmadden28]

.. Which when you consider the source material is going to be tape, there's no benefit to DSD.

I don't follow that. Aren't most Master's on tape?

[F1nut]

Which when you consider the source material is going to be tape, there's no benefit to DSD.

You would be completely wrong on that one.

[Danny Tse]

I swear I've seen a DVD-A version of this.

A Sony title on DVD-A?

[unc2701]

I don't follow that. Aren't most Master's on tape?
These days, no. Just about everything is digital.


You would be completely wrong on that one.

Nice thing about having a friend that owns a studio is that I get to play with a lot of really cool gear and have well-informed opinions. DSD wins hands-down on live recordings that have pretty much zero post-processing. Kinda like live cut vinyl. Outside of that there's pretty much no advantage to DSD vs PCM- and we spent a lot of time playing with it... Including pulling some old recordings off tape. The biggest issue with DSD is that it's a bitch to edit: apart from live recordings, most SACD's are recorded in PCM then converted to DSD for mastering, nullifying any advantage of the format.

Now, your listening tastes could mean that you're hearing the SACD's that are cut live, in which case, yeah they sound better. But for a multitracked rock album, SACD is typically at a disadvantage simply because the studio is going to do all the mixing in PCM then convert to SACD.

[unc2701]

A Sony title on DVD-A?

I'm almost certain I saw it.... gimme a few minutes w/ google.

[Toolfan66]

I wouldn't pay more then $100 for it. I don't care how rare it is.

[fossy]

damn it.... stumped my toe as ran for my cd collection to find .... alas ... I don't have one........IF it's as rare as "he" thinks .....hope he sells it ...... but for 12.5 k ... who knows, he just might . That's pocket change for some..

cool factor ... way high

[F1nut]

These days, no. Just about everything is digital.



Nice thing about having a friend that owns a studio is that I get to play with a lot of really cool gear and have well-informed opinions. DSD wins hands-down on live recordings that have pretty much zero post-processing. Kinda like live cut vinyl. Outside of that there's pretty much no advantage to DSD vs PCM- and we spent a lot of time playing with it... Including pulling some old recordings off tape. The biggest issue with DSD is that it's a bitch to edit: apart from live recordings, most SACD's are recorded in PCM then converted to DSD for mastering, nullifying any advantage of the format.

Now, your listening tastes could mean that you're hearing the SACD's that are cut live, in which case, yeah they sound better. But for a multitracked rock album, SACD is typically at a disadvantage simply because the studio is going to do all the mixing in PCM then convert to SACD.

You're still wrong and I'd be happy to prove it if you're in the 'hood.

[unc2701]

Don't make it up that way much since my brother moved, but if you're down in Durham and the studio is open, we can play with some gear & you'll see what I mean.

Actually, I should qualify what I've said- I'm not really talking about DVD-A and SACD, but rather high-res PCM and DSD, in a studio, on a badass system, in a room with damn near perfect acoustics and no discs involved. The implementation of each system's playback probably greatly impacts it's quality, so it could be that they haven't yet built a DVD-A player that can compete with the SACD players on the market.

[unc2701]

Now, this is just weird:


I can't find it as anything but a rapidshare download & the catalog number on that pic is the same as the quad SQ LP...

[F1nut]

Don't make it up that way much since my brother moved, but if you're down in Durham and the studio is open, we can play with some gear & you'll see what I mean.

That's kinda funny.....one of my brothers use to live in your area, but since he moved I haven't been back. :)


Actually, I should qualify what I've said- I'm not really talking about DVD-A and SACD, but rather high-res PCM and DSD, in a studio, on a badass system, in a room with damn near perfect acoustics and no discs involved. The implementation of each system's playback probably greatly impacts it's quality, so it could be that they haven't yet built a DVD-A player that can compete with the SACD players on the market.

I thought we were talking about Redbook PCM vs DSD SACD.

[unc2701]

I thought we were talking about Redbook PCM vs DSD SACD.

Ah- yeah, no contest there. My original post was referring to that DVD-A of Rocks that I'd seen vs the SACD... which in this case would also be no contest (see below).

Anyhow, in the studio we did find that you didn't need full 192khz PCM to not be able to tell it from DSD, but that line was fuzzy depending on what we were recording and how we were processing it.

[unc2701]

...I can't find it as anything but a rapidshare download & the catalog number on that pic is the same as the quad SQ LP...

Heh- should have read the fine print. It's a high-res rip of the SQ LP. Oops. Crazy thing is that I actually saw this on a disc in a fleamarket somewhere.

[vc69]

I would have sworn I have seen it as SACD or DVD-A not long ago. Can't remember where, but the price was way too high for me to bite. Like over $100.

[F1nut]

I would have sworn I have seen it as SACD or DVD-A not long ago. Can't remember where, but the price was way too high for me to bite. Like over $100.

If you remember where, I'll buy it.

[F1nut]

that line was fuzzy depending on what we were recording and how we were processing it.

You touched on an important fact. Regardless of the final format, the mastering matters the most.

[vc69]

If you remember where, I'll buy it.

I must have been hallucinating as I have been unable to find it. Believe me I have looked since discussion began. :o

All I remember is that it was when I was purchasing "Toys" on SACD and I may just have seen some kind of "TBA" or some such listing for it. I'm getting old.

[DForeman]

Only one day to go on EBAY. Am curious to see if it sells.

[Toolfan66]

Only one day to go on EBAY. Am curious to see if it sells.


It won't sell for that price.

[DForeman]

It won't sell for that price.

Not even with free shipping? :)

Yes, highly unlikely it will sell.

Was in my local used record shop recently - took a peek at the Aerosmith section just in case this showed up (really did this - just for fun).

[Lasareath]

It is now re-listed at $4500 off!!!!!

Run!!!!, Dont walk

http://cgi.ebay.com/Aerosmith-ROCKS-rare-SACD-audiophile-SEE-DEMO-UTUBE_W0QQitemZ260541790384QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusi c_Other_Formats?hash=item3ca98038b0

[TNRabbit]

It's BAAAA-AAAAACK~

http://cgi.ebay.com/Aerosmith-ROCKS-rare-SACD-audiophile-NO-RESERVE-AUCTION_W0QQitemZ260555911199QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMu sic_CDs?hash=item3caa57b01f&afsrc=1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Aerosmith-ROCKS-rare-SACD-audiophile-NO-RESERVE-AUCTION_W0QQitemZ260555911199QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMu sic_CDs?hash=item3caa57b01f&afsrc=1)

[mmadden28]

What? No reserve?

[stuwee]

Sucker's gonna sell, whatdoyaknow? Fools soon parted with their money.....

[TNRabbit]

Holy Moly! $810 and rising~

[Toolfan66]

I think it would be funny that after the buyer pays and receives it, that in a couple of months the SACD got a full release date. I would LMFAO:cool:

Not that it will see the light of day.

[Danny Tse]

I think it would be funny that after the buyer pays and receives it, that in a couple of months the SACD got a full release date. I would LMFAO:cool:

Not that it will see the light of day.

That wouldn't be surprising since something similar like that has happened before. I mean, if there's one "Rocks" SACD, there has to be others.