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bigaudiofanatic
03-14-2010, 11:01 PM
Well I was expecting this to be weird but still good. Tonight went and saw it. Besides the few funny parts, it was a very un organized movie. Half the time you could not understand some of the characters and as I said the story line was very poor. Also it was not something I could get into, it might of been the lack of story line or the lack of understanding. All I know is this movie did not impress me. Thumbs down.

nooshinjohn
03-15-2010, 12:40 AM
Agreed... The visuals were great but there was no substance to support them. There was no passion within the story and the acting was utterly flat. Johnny Depp's Mad Hatter was the high point for me, but he kept sounding like a Capt. Jack Sparrow that had gone rather light in the loafers.

Two thumbs down.

BottomFeeder
03-15-2010, 02:36 AM
Huh! My family and I all enjoyed it!

Shows you what we know....

Uilleann
03-15-2010, 10:21 AM
I would agree - mediocre at best. And I am a big Burton fan at that.

Let me be the first to poo poo the appalling trend for every movie to be "fancy" and "3-D" or whatever the catch technology of the week is now. It isn't helping you. You make a suck movie, and make it 3-D, it sucks in 3-D is all. NO improvement in the "experience" for the moviegoer. Avatar was the biggest complete and utter flop in that regard. Sadly, Alice was all fluff, very busy, but with no real substance. I wasn't even moved by Depp's performance. All and all, not the worst movie I've seen (that honor rests very squarely with the 10 foot smurfs and James Cameron), but I was left wanting with Alice too. Pity.

AsSiMiLaTeD
03-15-2010, 10:28 AM
Wow, really? Two things:

1 - Why do we need more than one thread on this movie? I'm not just saying this to be an ass, it literally makes discussion more difficult because it's harder to follow and people have to repeat themselves...
2 - My response is in the other thread, but basically, it's a Tim Burton movie and you expected 'substance'? I just don't get people I suppose...

nooshinjohn
03-15-2010, 10:31 AM
All and all, not the worst movie I've seen (that honor rests very squarely with the 10 foot smurfs and James Cameron), but I was left wanting with Alice too. Pity.

Lol.... Them's could be called fightin' words for some.:eek::p;)

I hope bigaudiofanatic does not see this.:D

Uilleann
03-15-2010, 10:54 AM
Yeah - Burton is quite capable. Ever seen Sleepy Hollow? While completely silly in many regards, it had something in the story that you could follow. "Substance". At least Tim Burton style...

But Alice just didn't have it. And the glasses made me sick all of two minutes in to boot. Oh well. Here's to hoping his next will be better.

zombie boy 2000
03-15-2010, 11:10 AM
I'd say both Big Fish and Ed Wood had all kinds of "substance".

bigaudiofanatic
03-15-2010, 11:23 AM
I would agree - mediocre at best. And I am a big Burton fan at that.

Let me be the first to poo poo the appalling trend for every movie to be "fancy" and "3-D" or whatever the catch technology of the week is now. It isn't helping you. You make a suck movie, and make it 3-D, it sucks in 3-D is all. NO improvement in the "experience" for the moviegoer. Avatar was the biggest complete and utter flop in that regard. Sadly, Alice was all fluff, very busy, but with no real substance. I wasn't even moved by Depp's performance. All and all, not the worst movie I've seen (that honor rests very squarely with the 10 foot smurfs and James Cameron), but I was left wanting with Alice too. Pity.


Lol.... Them's could be called fightin' words for some.:eek::p;)

I hope bigaudiofanatic does not see this.:D

...To late, your kidding me right? Avatar had to be one of the best movies of all time. That movie had a good story line and I will agree it was not the best but the ability to pull you into another world like your actually there was stunning. Anyway back to alice.

Ron-P
03-15-2010, 11:24 AM
Wow, really? Two things:

1 - Why do we need more than one thread on this movie? I'm not just saying this to be an ass, it literally makes discussion more difficult because it's harder to follow and people have to repeat themselves...


I've been trying to stress this for a very long time, people just don't get it. Like you said, makes it difficult to discuss a film. It's so easy to just search before posting.

bigaudiofanatic
03-15-2010, 11:26 AM
I did search a few pages back but I did not find anything. My fault for not using the search.

AsSiMiLaTeD
03-15-2010, 11:34 AM
I'd say both Big Fish and Ed Wood had all kinds of "substance".Granted, but those are obviously the exception rather than the rule. I'm a big Tim Burton fan as I've stated before, but to walk into Alice expecting a very deep story line or substance is silly. For Tim Burton, the story is usually just a vehicle that allows him to display his art, which I'm fine with because I like his style.

It's kind of like all thsoe people who were dissapointed with Transformers 2 because there wasn't a deep story line and just robots fighting the whole time...It's a movie about alien robots from outer space, directed by Michael Bay - what the hell did you expect?

zombie boy 2000
03-15-2010, 11:56 AM
Gotcha. For the record, I'm a huge fan as well.

John30_30
03-19-2010, 10:48 PM
Granted, but those are obviously the exception rather than the rule. I'm a big Tim Burton fan as I've stated before, but to walk into Alice expecting a very deep story line or substance is silly. For Tim Burton, the story is usually just a vehicle that allows him to display his art, which I'm fine with because I like his style.

It's kind of like all thsoe people who were dissapointed with Transformers 2 because there wasn't a deep story line and just robots fighting the whole time...It's a movie about alien robots from outer space, directed by Michael Bay - what the hell did you expect?

No, it wasn't about robots or Burton styling. Burton was trying to create a mythos. If you're familiar with mythic archetypes,King Arthur, The Magic Flute, Parsifal or Wagnerian justaboutanything- you've got snakes, dragons, magical oracles, swords: it's apparent he had that in mind instead of just trying to create a 3D fluff fest.
And the film is only incidentally related to Alice in Wonderland, except in a cool way of having a female,a heroine instead of Parsifal or Arthur.

falconcry72
03-20-2010, 08:24 PM
tim burton is not an artist.

Ron-P
03-20-2010, 08:28 PM
tim burton is not an artist.
Really, how's that?

Toolfan66
03-20-2010, 08:32 PM
tim burton is not an artist.

:rolleyes:

shepx2
03-20-2010, 08:36 PM
tim burton is not an artist.

Run dude. Seriously.

Danny Tse
03-24-2010, 05:22 PM
Hey....noooo....isn't that Crispin Clover??

MrNightly
03-25-2010, 01:05 AM
I took my girls to see this... it was so so... i actually got bored with it, and wanted everyone to die at the end! Oh well.

The 3-D was pretty good, but not as good as Avatar obviously.

Wouldn't waste the money in the theater.