Yeah, he should have just laid there, and continued to be beaten to death. If your last line of defense to save your life, is to shoot, you would shoot.
Give me a break..
It is sad that that young man lost his life. Violence in our society is horrific. It is also sad that he made the bad decision to attack someone without cause. He had plenty of time and opportunity to get away from the person who was watching him, and he decided to turn and fight. The preponderence of evidence was that he was the aggressor. If he would have had the good sense to say " I am on my way home to my fathers house at ...." he would be alive today, but he chose to attack someone and threaten another person's life and well being. According to the Justice System Zimmerman is not guilty. There was never a case to prosecute him in the first place, and the politicians pushed this to cause social unrest in our country. When are the politicians going to deal with all of the other violence happening daily in our country? Totally shameful. Now we will be engulfed with people trying to deny the right to defend yourself if you are attacked,
So if your teen age daughter is being followed by a strange man who gets out of his car and grabs her and she fights him off and gets killed. You would still feel the same?
I don't see anything good coming of this thread, guys. I say we just abandon thread right here.
I think they both are losers....one man killed and the other ones life changed as soon as the trigger was pulled.....sad chain of events.
No law was broken by either Zimmerman OR Martin, until Martin attacked him. This was self-defense. You DO NOT have a "right" to attack someone who hasn't done anything to you.
I agree, because I think it is stupid to suggest that this kid should do what we've taught our kids not to do. That is not only to talk to strangers but give them information as to how to find me.
Only 2 people really know what happened, and one of them is dead.
Beyond that, it is up to the jury, based on the evidence, to decide the case. There were 6 people on this jury.
Everything else is anyone's guess or opinion...
Exactly Steve. We have this thing called "evidence" which must be presented in a court of law. Not assumed/made up in a court of public opinion. News media is great at trying cases without the whole story being told by using public opinion to strong arm others into deviating from rational decisions.
Judging by some responses, the guilty verdict was already instilled by public opinion, no evidence required, so now it's a miscarriage of justice that will fill the headlines.
I work with a smart, tough, young black woman who grew up in the projects in Chicago.
On Friday as we left work, the subject of the coming verdict came up.
She said "you know what the lesson really is?: "Don't F___ with people".
She told me she meant Travon, and to a lesser extent George. She said she sees a whole generation of young black men acting like gangsters and thinking that the law does not apply to them. Too often, they end up in jail, or dead.
None of us were in that courtroom or on that jury and heard ALL of the evidence. Once again the media did their fair share of blowing this up and convicting the man before his day in court.
Our justice system is no where near perfect, but it's what we have to work with.
So just throw out everything that you taught your children about dealing with strangers. Please hold a conversation if approached, answer all of their questions, tell them where you live and go peacefully if asked. YOU don't know what was said or done during this encounter.
I blame MC Hammer as he is the one that started the influential gangster rap movement
I am just puzzled by two things now.
Wtf? Is a White-Hispanic?
In my 51 years I never heard of this.
And the other is referring to a 17 yr old as a young child.
I have a 17 yr old "child" upstairs and although I'd never tell him I bet he could whoop my butt if he was pissed at me.
The situation almost occurred where those who WERE in the courtroom (judge, jury, lawyers) did not get to hear/see all the evidence.
Worth reading the linked story, IMO.
I would also agree with that opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strong Bad
Just for sheets and grins, look at this following headline from one news source:
" Protests in US after Zimmerman acquittal
Small protests break out after Florida neighbourhood watchman found not guilty for death of black teen Trayvon Martin."
That is, IMO, a rather neutral headline that, IMO, rather accurately reflects post-verdict actual events that actually occurred.
That is not the typical tone of headlines that I have experienced from readings on the internet.
BTW: perhaps it might be slightly interesting to note the source of that (IMO) neutral headline:
The article that accompanies that headline is an example, IMO, of what journalism used to be like in this country.
Facts, such as they are, quotes from significant parties involved, and reactions from outside parties.
The article mentions peaceful protests around the country.
The article does mention (but does NOT overemphasize) one protest that was not particularly peaceful:
"In the California city of Oakland, protests were more violent, with angry demonstrators spray-painting cars and smashing windows, according to the US media reports."
"Spray painting cars and smashing windows".
Certainly not activity that should be welcomed or condoned.
But that is far from the anticipated (dare I say, "Encouraged" ?!) activity that, IMO, our homegrown US media expected (dare I say, "Hoped for" ?!).
Reports of peaceful protests by demonstrators doesn't sell as many newspapers as reports of seething, slathering mobs of inhuman terroristic thugs intent on coming to your home to pillage your pets.
Reports of peaceful protests may, in fact, cause one to focus on issues involved with the event.
My point ?
Read everything you are able to from
Then YOU decide what is real and what is an illusion (Moody Blues)
Absolutely agree. And, like America, love her for what she is and where she might be wrong, make her right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strong Bad
How did the media turn a partially hispanic, partially black, registered Democrac, Obamo voter who taught math to underpriveliged black students in his spare time into an example of "white racism" in this country.
The fact is that he was apparrently not a racist. But the media and race hustlers were willing to portray him as one, and destroy him, in order to advance their agenda.
I would feel the exact same way if a black man shot a white teenager in self defense during a street fight.
The fact remains that TM would be alive today if he took the 4 minutes of time he had to go the 150' to his fathers door...
At that point George Zimmerman stopped and got out of his car to continue his Neighborhood Watch duties.
That point is undisputed.
Events that occurred afterwards may be, but that point is undisputed.