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    Default Does my CDP suck or is it just me?

    I know this might sound like heresy in this forum but I recently bought an iPod 160GB Classic and ripped my CD's to it using Apples Lossless format. I swear my 2-channel music (actually 2.1) sounds better now then when I listened to the CDP. SACD still sounds awesome on the Player but the 2-channel music from the iPod sounds much richer and detailed in the mid-range and lower.
    Anyone else notice this or is my hearing going south?
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    yes it sucks...:p
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    Not knowing what CDP you have it could suck! What do you have?
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    CDP/DVDP: Sony DVP-NC600
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    well the good news is all the new gear your going to be getting.

    have fun.

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    Your hearing is off and your CDP sucks! I think that's what you wanted to hear!
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    Consider yourself lucky because it doesn't sound like you have been afflicted with the disease of Audiophilia :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkg999 View Post
    Your hearing is off and your CDP sucks! I think that's what you wanted to hear!
    I guess I'll have to get that Oppo now and settle it once and for all, maybe a TT as well...:D
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    Generally speaking, yes. But what types of music are you listening too? Because there are some types of music I actually prefer my ipod to play over digital optical to my receiver. Not in many cases, but sometimes heavily distortion guitar sounds better to my ears from a lower quality source. I really don't know why but if I had to guess, it'd be because trying to accurately reproduce distortion (from the guitar) just doesn't really make sense. Blurring the sound even more with a poor quality DAC sometimes sounds a little smoother to me.

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    Do you have any EQ settings turned on in the IPOD? This would change the way things sound.
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    Welcome to the digital age. A Ipod in Lossless is just as good as a CD in sound quality if using external DAC's. I personally don't use the internal DAC's as I have a Pioneer ELite receiver with Ipod connection on the front which uses the Pioneer DAC's. I also have a Apple TV which I have connected VIA HDMI so it's also using the Pioneer's DAC's.
    I don't play single CD's anymore except Sacd and Dvd audio. I actually wish someone would come up with a hard drive so I can rip them as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mantis View Post
    Welcome to the digital age. A Ipod in Lossless is just as good as a CD in sound quality if using external DAC's. I personally don't use the internal DAC's as I have a Pioneer ELite receiver with Ipod connection on the front which uses the Pioneer DAC's. I also have a Apple TV which I have connected VIA HDMI so it's also using the Pioneer's DAC's.
    I don't play single CD's anymore except Sacd and Dvd audio. I actually wish someone would come up with a hard drive so I can rip them as well.
    Are you sure your using the Pioneer's DAC. Last time I checked (maybe 5 months ago), there were ONLY two devices licensed by Apple to extract digital off the iPod. The Wadia dock and another dock I can't remember the name of. If your receiver isn't pretty new, your not getting digital off your iPod.

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    so CD's were not digital.....wow, that blows my mind!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by reeltrouble1 View Post
    so CD's were not digital.....wow, that blows my mind!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpyder View Post
    lol, what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpyder View Post
    Generally speaking, yes. But what types of music are you listening too? Because there are some types of music I actually prefer my ipod to play over digital optical to my receiver. Not in many cases, but sometimes heavily distortion guitar sounds better to my ears from a lower quality source. I really don't know why but if I had to guess, it'd be because trying to accurately reproduce distortion (from the guitar) just doesn't really make sense. Blurring the sound even more with a poor quality DAC sometimes sounds a little smoother to me.
    Could this effect be from the fact that some distortion pedals turn the sound into sawtooth waves and no method of music reproduction can perfectly represent sawtooth waves. So when my ipod's DAC converts the data to an analog signal, it rounds off out the peaks and makes it sound a little more "musical"? (Didn't really know a better word to use.)

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