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    Thumbs up Anyone like their Preamp?

    Any suggestions for a good 2 channel preamp to go with an adcom 545 amp that I just picked up?
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    I am happy with my Wright WLA12A and Anthem Pre 2L and have been happy with Adcom GFP-750 and Anthem Pre 1L.

    Whats your budget and preference tube vs ss?
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
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    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs

    Ofc: Wright WLA12 preamp: Anthem Amp 1 PSVANE 6CA7: Pio Elite DV-79AVI: Airport Express: PA LS90 sonicaps and mills

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    I am using a Grounded Grid Pre I built with the 545. Love it. What is your budget? What speakers are you driving?
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    The speakers are SDA-2's. I currently am using my Marantz 2270 as the preamp.
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    Polk Lsi15 Fronts
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    Polk Lsi7 Surrounds
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    Lots of pre amps are going to sound good with the 545. Can you tell us more about what you want to spend, do you need HT bypass, what speakers, etc?
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    The budget? Maybe up to $600. I really don't understand what makes a good preamp yet and what I'd be paying for. Its a new area for me.
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    Polk Lsi15 Fronts
    Polk LsiC Center
    Polk Lsi7 Surrounds
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    At $600 there are several great choices, with and without HT bypass or remote. Pretty wide open in that range.

    Tube or SS ?

    If you look hard the GFP-750 can be found if SS is your thing. If tube is what you want the Anthems I mentioned, the Wright if you can find one and host of other tube pre's.

    But you do need to figure out what features and sound you are looking for. Is balance control required, remote, HT bypass, IEC for power, input types (RCA and or XLR), color, on and on.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs

    Ofc: Wright WLA12 preamp: Anthem Amp 1 PSVANE 6CA7: Pio Elite DV-79AVI: Airport Express: PA LS90 sonicaps and mills

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    Well, I'm off to bed. Thanks for the info so far and I look forward to more. What kind of specs do I even look for?
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    Magnapan MG-12/QR
    powered by a
    Parasound 1500a
    2 JBL 10" Subs
    powered by a second
    Parasound 1500a

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    Polk Lsi15 Fronts
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    I'm strictly looking for SS.
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    2 JBL 10" Subs
    powered by a second
    Parasound 1500a

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    Denon 3311-CI
    Polk Lsi15 Fronts
    Polk LsiC Center
    Polk Lsi7 Surrounds
    2 JBL 10" Subs
    powered by ADCOM 545

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    I think the Adcom 750 will get a lot of votes then. Nice thing is you want have to buy tubes to roll and go broke;)
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs

    Ofc: Wright WLA12 preamp: Anthem Amp 1 PSVANE 6CA7: Pio Elite DV-79AVI: Airport Express: PA LS90 sonicaps and mills

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    I like my B&K.
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    I like both the SEP-1 and the Parasound 2100. Concealer404's B&K is very nice as well.
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    I like my preamp, sometimes I sleep with it................sometimes I have to move afterwards to avoid the preamp police, those guys are pretty quick.

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    All solid state huh! Look for a used Spectral DMC 10x. They are hard to come by used and will cost you a bit more than $600 but it will blow you away. However, it has only three inputs, phono, aux (for digital) and a tape loop which you can use for any line level device. BTW that phono stage is still one of the best ever made.

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    Adcom GFP-750 is an excellent piece. HT bypass, Nelson Pass design, built like a brick sh*t house. Passive mode, remote, switching relays rather than I/C's, simple signal paths, dead neutral, balanced in's and out's, 12V trigger.............did I mention a Nelson Pass design

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    Love mine, but it's a touch beyond $600. How about a new Creek passive for $499? See audioadvisor, REMOTE too!

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    Since the OP is a little "green" with audio gear and separates I'd caution him against his 1st pre-amp being a passive unit. Passive units need to be carefully matched and not all people appreciate a passive pre-amp's sound.

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    He's driving a CD player---plenty of output. His amp and CDP both lean to the warm side of neutral, the Creek (IMO) would be a good "balancing" move. Just my 2 cents.
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    I still think he should approach with caution as many people prefer an active pre over a passive pre. If he can afford to experiment with both at the same time that would be best. This being his 1st forray into separates, a passive pre would be low on the list.

    IMHO.

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    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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    I went through a lot of different preamps (Adcom, NAD, Dynaco, HK Citation, Advent, Marantz etc.) and eventually ended up with a Forte Model 45.

    I belive that Forte was John Curl's entry level brand to go with Threshold.

    I love this thing, it matches well with any SS or tube amp I pair it with.

    I previously thought that preamps all sounded about the same and that it was not a critical component. It made a big difference in improved detail and still manages to sound effortless and "musical". It also has pretty good gain (some of my previous preamps had feeble outputs) so it works well with lower power amps and inefficient speakers

    It also has a remote control which is nice for the lazy man.

    New it was something like $1300, but can be bought used for about $300 (what I paid) if you are patient.

    I hope it never breaks because I don't even want to think about replacing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Smith View Post
    I went through a lot of different preamps (Adcom, NAD, Dynaco, HK Citation, Advent, Marantz etc.) and eventually ended up with a Forte Model 45.

    I belive that Forte was John Curl's entry level brand to go with Threshold.

    I love this thing, it matches well with any SS or tube amp I pair it with.

    I previously thought that preamps all sounded about the same and that it was not a critical component. It made a big difference in improved detail and still manages to sound effortless and "musical". It also has pretty good gain (some of my previous preamps had feeble outputs) so it works well with lower power amps and inefficient speakers

    It also has a remote control which is nice for the lazy man.

    New it was something like $1300, but can be bought used for about $300 (what I paid) if you are patient.

    I hope it never breaks because I don't even want to think about replacing it.

    It was Nelson Pass not John Curl. And Forte is very solid gear and the less costlier alternative to Threshold. I was looking at a Forte amp before buying my Aleph 30.

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    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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    Quote Originally Posted by heiney9 View Post
    Adcom GFP-750 is an excellent piece. HT bypass, Nelson Pass design, built like a brick sh*t house. Passive mode, remote, switching relays rather than I/C's, simple signal paths, dead neutral, balanced in's and out's, 12V trigger.............did I mention a Nelson Pass design

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    I like my pre-amp, it's not fancy but it does the trick. Mind you this is my first actual pre. And I have nothign else to compare it to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reeltrouble1 View Post
    waaaaaaaaaaaaa gee I never would of guessed!!!!!

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    :D:p;):)
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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    Quote Originally Posted by heiney9 View Post
    It was Nelson Pass not John Curl. And Forte is very solid gear and the less costlier alternative to Threshold. I was looking at a Forte amp before buying my Aleph 30.

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    H9 is actually the wayward lovechild born of a menage-a-trois involving Pass, Twiggy, Tiny Tim and several bottles of Ripple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reeltrouble1 View Post
    H9 is actually the wayward lovechild born of a menage-a-trois involving Pass, Twiggy, Tiny Tim and several bottles of Ripple.

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    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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    I've used the Luminous Audio Axiom passive preamp with multiple rigs and it sounded great every time; even at our Seattle Fest. Plus it's real cheap and customized to your amp and speakers. :D
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