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    Default Are Pyle stereo components garbage?

    I figured you guys would know......

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    yes, stay away from all their stuff.

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    I LOVED the PyleDriver box that I had in my Datsun....like 20+ years ago but I haven't heard a single Pyle component since then. I actually thought they were out of business up until a trade show....weird. I also don't read much love about the product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yepimonfire View Post
    yes, stay away from all their stuff.
    I second this!;)

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    I also had a Pyle amp in my car about 20+ years ago and if I remember it was very loud.

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    Generally, yes. That said, I have experimented with a pair of Pyle compression drivers on Altec 511B horns and they were not bad (believe it or not).
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    Thanks for your answers guys. Some of their prices are pretty good so I figured their was a catch.

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    well when their 3000w advertised amp can only drive 100w into something, theres something going on. not to mention all the internet reviews saying how the stuff broke after like two weeks.

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    if your looking for good components at low prices check out some behringer stuff, they are excellent.

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    Behringer gear is horrible and it's not built very well. But then, you get what you pay for. Actually Pyle and Behringer are about the same.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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    My brother in law bought a Behringer AMP...lasted all of 2 weeks.

    If you want a low cost amp that may last a year or 2, consider a Audiosource AMP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heiney9 View Post
    Behringer gear is horrible and it's not built very well. But then, you get what you pay for. Actually Pyle and Behringer are about the same.
    +1


    I used to have a Behringer 4x12" guitar cabinet, and it's about the only Behringer product I've ever seen that wasn't a POS.

    Pyle is also garbage.
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    Back in the late 80's early 90's pyle driver subs were good actually. I think they got bought out and then became bad.

    I have seen some of there audio stuff for DJ and amps. I would stay away also.

    Are you thinking about this for home grear or practice gear? What is the application it would be used in?

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    I have a pair of 6x9 speakers I bought from them because they had a really high efficiency rating and I was working with only 12 watts. They are loud but thats about all.
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    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D

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    I always like to say their gear about the same quality as a Pyle of crap.

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    Pyle makes a couple of good products. Some of their horn lenses are well built and engineered.
    I'm definitely not a fan of their electronics.
    Isn't Klipsch the parent company of Pyle now? IIRC reading something about that 6 months or so ago.

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    Steaming Pyle of Shiznit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yepimonfire View Post
    if your looking for good components at low prices check out some behringer stuff, they are excellent.


    Quote Originally Posted by heiney9 View Post
    Behringer gear is horrible and it's not built very well. But then, you get what you pay for. Actually Pyle and Behringer are about the same.
    +1

    Behringer is the type of company that will steal designs from reputable companies and built them out of garbage components. IE: behringer mixing consoles...

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    Pyle has never been anything to write home about. I had a Pyle car subwoofer back in about 1989, and I guess it was OK. However, the current stuff I see in the Parts Express catalog should be avoided at all costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HB27 View Post
    Pyle makes a couple of good products. Some of their horn lenses are well built and engineered.
    I'm definitely not a fan of their electronics.
    Isn't Klipsch the parent company of Pyle now? IIRC reading something about that 6 months or so ago.
    You read wrong.

    Pyle is owned by a parent company, Sound Around Incorporated, which is also the parent company of Pyramid, Lanzar, Legacy, Blitz, GSI and Brand X audio brands.

    http://www.soundaroundusa.com/

    Pyle used to be a separate company. Like Jensen which is now owned by Audiovox. They made good stuff way back when and honestly helped define the car audio segment. The stuff you seen now is from the parent company who cuts production costs as much as they can to increase profit margins and manufacturers overseas.

    Both Sound Around and Audiovox maintain corporate HQ locations in the United States but I am pretty sure that there are giant Japanese, Chinese and Taiwanese conglomerates behind the names.

    A similar fate befell other pioneering companies like Advent (Audiovox), AR (Audiovox), Phase Linear (Audiovox), NHT (Audiovox), Dual (TCL Holdings) and KLH (Kyocera Ltd).

    They were all bought for the names to sell cheap junk in discount stores. Although, Dual was most well known for stellar turntables and that part of the business was bought by Fehrenbacher in 1993. They still make an impressive range of turntables. Dual hasn't always been readily available here. They are big in Europe and Japan. When the Dual car audio junk started showing up here in the late 90's and got way prevalent in the past few years, I knew something was up. TCL Holdings is a Chinese company that also owns RCA, Thompson and Alcatel.

    KLH though, Kyocera stopped making audio components under the KLH name in the early 90's. They put the brand name up for sale and an American company in California called Wald Sound and Verit Industries bought them. they still make things as cheaply as possible and I still don't believe that thier holding company isn't overseas either.

    There are tons of brands from the 50's, 60's and 70's that have gone this way. Even Polk Audio is one of them. Hopefully Directed remains hands-off and doesn't bastardized the brand in to something less than desirable like these other pioneers and hallmarks of what we now call "vintage audio".


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    NHT is not associated with Audiovox and remains an independent American speaker company (although production has moved to China many years ago). NHT purchased itself last year from its previous American parent company; one of NHT's founders is currently part-owner of NHT.

    For the record, the speaker business of AR was purchased by Audiovox when Jensen Int'l went belly up. The cable/power conditioner businesses of AR was sold to Recoton.
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    OK, fine, I offended NHT obviously.

    NHT was not always an independent company. It may have been bought back from Audiovox but, Jensen International owned NHT Loudspeakers when it was bought by Audiovox. NHT went with it. The "American parent company" that NHT bought itself from was Audiovox.

    And, for the record, you know who owns the right to the Recoton name? Audiovox.

    Further info. Recoton was owned by Thompson. Thompson went belly up and started selling off assets and liabilities. In December of 2007, Audiovox completed acquisition of the following brands from Thompson's consumer electronics and appliances portfolio: RCA, Recoton, Spikemaster, Ambico and Discwasher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jstas View Post
    NHT was not always an independent company. It may have been bought back from Audiovox but, Jensen International owned NHT Loudspeakers when it was bought by Audiovox. NHT went with it. The "American parent company" that NHT bought itself from was Audiovox.
    According to this Stereophile article, NHT was previously owned by Vinci Labs, which funded NHT's xD series of DSP speaker system. The article didn't mention it, but before Vinci Labs, NHT was owned by Rockford-Fosgate. At that time, Rockford-Fosgate owned MB Quart also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Tse View Post
    According to this Stereophile article, NHT was previously owned by Vinci Labs, which funded NHT's xD series of DSP speaker system. The article didn't mention it, but before Vinci Labs, NHT was owned by Rockford-Fosgate. At that time, Rockford-Fosgate owned MB Quart also.
    Dude, really? That article is 5 years old and the "Vinci Labs" that bought the name is long since gone.

    This is the "Vinci Labs" site now: http://www.vincilabs.com/

    The current owners renewed a registration in 2009. They've probably had the name since at least 2008, maybe earlier. Also, the Vinci Labs that bought the name was owned by the Vinci Group based in Tampere, Finland, not a US Company. Rockford Fosgate also unloaded MB Quart in 2005 as well as NHT.

    The last news I can find for the Finnish "Vinci Group" is some stories on BNET about acquisitions with high liability in early 2008. I'll bet that the "Vinci Group" folded in 2008 and everything was sold off in a fire sale. The current company owning the Vinci Group names in Europe is a construction/architectural company that builds infrastructure like bridges, large buildings and energy facilities.

    If the Vinci Group did in fact fold and the assets sold off, they went in a private sale and therefore no notice of what holdings went where necessary to be made public. The only public that would know would those who were shareholders of the companies acquiring the assets. I see nothing beyond 2007-2008 to support your statements.
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    We have been trying out two bridged Pyle's rated at 3000 watts each for the band, lots of power, no issues, they sound best with tubed head units, appropriate signal compression and EQ, not really something though I would ever use for home stereo. Pretty cheap stuff in pro audio land.

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    Default behringer/pyle

    As far as I have seen behringer is kinda bad , I bought a behringer rack mount xover the adjustments almost made no differance .
    BUT
    The behringer truth 2030 speaker sounds VERY nice ! (its a copy of ?genelec? )
    I would be proud to have some (dont know if I would pull the polks though) .
    All pyles I ever saw were junk
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    I had a pyle "pro-series" 12" with a big magnet and huge voice coil no matter what box I tried that in it always sounded good, I tried it in a .75 cu box with a big port and it went good .

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    I bought a pair of pyle 6x9 4 way and a pair of pyle 6 1/2 component speakers, both rated for 100watts RMS. I have them hooked up to a sony xplod 4x100 amp. I paid about 50.00 plus shipping for these and have had them in my truck for 3 years, and they work great! wish I would have got 4 of the 6x9's they are awesome, and they were cheaper than the 6 1/2's

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