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    Default Belkin PF60 or APC H15...?

    Any feedback or experiences on which of these Power Conditioners would be a better fit for a Home Theater System? (quality, durability, value, features, price)

    Thanks for your insights...

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    I just purchased the APC H15 and have nothing but good things to say about this unit. Quality feels top notch for that price point, extremely durable, the price I paid was an incredible value and it has all the features one could want for most H/T applications.
    The dimming feature is really sweet.

    No experience with that particular Belkin, so I can not comment there.

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    I agree with Conradicles....

    Great unit and price.
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    I have 2 PF60 for over 3 years and no problems

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    I have the APC H10 and it is great, I live in an older place and with the certain combo of equipment on, the APC kicks in and ups the voltage as required.
    It instantly cleared up my cable tv signal but not sure what it did for the sound as I had also made some minor changes to my system at the same time.

    I know the APC H15 has more features then the H10 but they operate on the same premise.
    Plenty of hook-ups and receptacles on the back, sharp design. In my opinion the voltage control is an advantage over the other brand as it allows for voltage sags & swells.
    Higly recommended!

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    Anyone here use the Coax/RF connectors in the back?

    (having a line from the cable box and the out to the tv?)

    wouldn't this weaken the signal since it has to pass through the box?
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    I am using the coax (into house) from the cable provider to the APC H10 and then to the providers cable box and I thought it may not work good or it would make the signal weaker.
    I tired it and it greatly sharpened the SD channels and improved the HD channels!

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    I posted a review of the PF 60 a few days ago.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102836
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ric5811 View Post
    I posted a review of the PF 60 a few days ago.
    Ric, did you compare the APC when you were researching the Belkin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Moines View Post
    Ric, did you compare the APC when you were researching the Belkin?
    Yeah, I looked at a lot of protectors, the Belkin has a higher joule rating, plus you can monitor each bank independently, or as a whole. Even has a reset fuse. Plus it also has a front outlet, which comes in handy. so a total of 13 outlets.
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    hey there, any you folks that own the pf60 can tell me one quick thing... how much watts does the unit itself draw, with nothing plugged into it pls?

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    Thanks for the inputs.....all of them useful
    I finally got a used APC H15 $ 130 shipped....let's see how it works
    I'll post my experiences later on

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    Quote Originally Posted by abc5 View Post
    hey there, any you folks that own the pf60 can tell me one quick thing... how much watts does the unit itself draw, with nothing plugged into it pls?
    An insignificant amount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfong View Post
    I am using the coax (into house) from the cable provider to the APC H10 and then to the providers cable box and I thought it may not work good or it would make the signal weaker.
    I tired it and it greatly sharpened the SD channels and improved the HD channels!
    I did that and the difference was quite substantial.

    Awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acmf74 View Post
    I did that and the difference was quite substantial.

    Awesome.
    Wow, really? I have never tired that. Guess I should give that a try soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LessisNevermore View Post
    An insignificant amount.
    what is insignificant though?

    more than 4 watts is significant to me, because i'm in the northeast and electricity is expensive... and i have alot of other devices drawing idle juice 24/7/365.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abc5 View Post
    what is insignificant though?

    more than 4 watts is significant to me, because i'm in the northeast and electricity is expensive... and i have alot of other devices drawing idle juice 24/7/365.
    I posed the question to Belkin, I'll let you know what the response is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conradicles View Post
    I just purchased the APC H15 and have nothing but good things to say about this unit. Quality feels top notch for that price point, extremely durable, the price I paid was an incredible value and it has all the features one could want for most H/T applications.
    The dimming feature is really sweet.

    No experience with that particular Belkin, so I can not comment there.
    Except that it looks like a old comcast cable box!:D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conradicles View Post
    I just purchased the APC H15 and have nothing but good things to say about this unit. Quality feels top notch for that price point, extremely durable, the price I paid was an incredible value and it has all the features one could want for most H/T applications.
    The dimming feature is really sweet.

    No experience with that particular Belkin, so I can not comment there.
    nice, where'd you buy it from, and for how much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abc5 View Post
    nice, where'd you buy it from, and for how much?
    I got mine here:
    http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it..._c=site_search

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    looks like 279$. thought you got it for a deal. thanks for link though.

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    I got mine on clearance for much, much cheaper....

    Keep a look at their clearance items that come with a full warranty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abc5 View Post
    looks like 279$. thought you got it for a deal. thanks for link though.
    B&H has it for 209 free delivery. You have to add it to your cart to get the 209 price!

    I got the H10 two weeks ago, it is the lower model of the H15. I paid 199 and now they go and lower the price of the H15! Bad timming on my part! :(

    They are nice pieces!

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    I got it for $110 but used...in good condition though

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfong View Post
    B&H has it for 209 free delivery. You have to add it to your cart to get the 209 price!

    I got the H10 two weeks ago, it is the lower model of the H15. I paid 199 and now they go and lower the price of the H15! Bad timming on my part! :(

    They are nice pieces!

    yes, looks like 208.xx but i could not see free shipping?, and i have to pay tax though.

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    does the H15 draw what kind of wattage for itself when nothing else is connected into it, btw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abc5 View Post
    yes, looks like 208.xx but i could not see free shipping?, and i have to pay tax though.
    It was on with free shipping and now they have changed it. I was going to go with the H15 but it was $75.00 more and now it is only 9 dollars more but they have dropped the free shipping!
    Sorry for the confussion on this one! You can get the H10 with free shipping but you will pay $199. for it! :)

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    I didnt want to create a new thread about this, but Im looking for a surge protector. Been thinking on the belkin PF30 and the APC AV 15 Amp G Type Rack Power Filter. How do these compare to the PF60 and the H15? Any suggestions in this price range, 100 dollars more or less??

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    I picked up my H15 new from Audio Advisors for $149 - had to be the silver face for this price though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abc5 View Post
    does the H15 draw what kind of wattage for itself when nothing else is connected into it, btw?
    Well of course it does, unless it's powered off. Nothing to even worry about and I got a big chuckle about your "4 watts is significant" statement.

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