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    Default spped of burning cd's

    this has turned out to be a HUGE project! i though burning my 500 or so cd's would be a breeze. since i'm using the lossless format, it takes 4ever!

    anyway, should i pick up a high-speed external cd-rom drive to cut down on the burn time?
    my lap top i think is 4x and the old pc i dusted off, can't be much better

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    If you computer is old, gettting an external cd will not help much. Better off taking the money on the new cd and putting it twards a new desktop or laptop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thuffman03 View Post
    If you computer is old, gettting an external cd will not help much. Better off taking the money on the new cd and putting it twards a new desktop or laptop.
    you're probably right...laptop is from 2004 and the old pc is a 2005, i think are there any specs i should look for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sda2mike View Post
    you're probably right...laptop is from 2004 and the old pc is a 2005, i think are there any specs i should look for?

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    That's not all that old. Just replace the cd/dvd burner in the PC with something you can get for $30 on sale. Better, leave the old one in, make the new one the Master. With CD burn rates to 48x and beyond, I'd still only go about 16x or 24x for accuracy.

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    Lets get the terms straight, are you ripping CDs to your computer or trying to burn them from archived FLAC files?

    In burning a CD, it shouldn't matter what the source is (MP3, .wav, or .flac), the burn time is approximately the same and is based on the drive speed (8x, 16x, 32x, 48x, etc).

    Now, if you are ripping audio and converting file formats from .wav to .flac, that is dependent on the speed of your PC, and the speed of the drive.

    If your PC is from 2005, I'm sure it has at least a 32x CD burner if not a 48x and extraction times should be pretty much on par with current drives.

    If you are actually talking about burning, for Audio CDs, I stick with 16x at most. That is still ample to burn a CD in 3-4 minutes.

    Now, if you are having to convert files before burning, that's another story. Maybe some clarification is needed. Either way, an external drive probably won't help much.

    Whatever you are doing, it will probably be faster on the PC than on the laptop due to slower hardrive, memory and bus speeds on the laptop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billbillw View Post
    Lets get the terms straight, are you ripping CDs to your computer or trying to burn them from archived FLAC files?

    In burning a CD, it shouldn't matter what the source is (MP3, .wav, or .flac), the burn time is approximately the same and is based on the drive speed (8x, 16x, 32x, 48x, etc).

    Now, if you are ripping audio and converting file formats from .wav to .flac, that is dependent on the speed of your PC, and the speed of the drive.

    If your PC is from 2005, I'm sure it has at least a 32x CD burner if not a 48x and extraction times should be pretty much on par with current drives.

    If you are actually talking about burning, for Audio CDs, I stick with 16x at most. That is still ample to burn a CD in 3-4 minutes.

    Now, if you are having to convert files before burning, that's another story. Maybe some clarification is needed. Either way, an external drive probably won't help much.

    Whatever you are doing, it will probably be faster on the PC than on the laptop due to slower hardrive, memory and bus speeds on the laptop.
    yeah there is a big difference between the lapper and the pc....what i'm trying to do is: burn (store?) my cd's to a 1tb hard drive. from what i'm told, it's probably best to select flac..that's all i know, at this point..my burn time is around 10 minutes total.

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    You are encoding the raw data of the CD into FLAC. This requires processing.

    You might have an option in the burning software to use a lower level of encoding. This will speed it up.

    What program are you using? Maybe someone has experience with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sda2mike View Post
    yeah there is a big difference between the lapper and the pc....what i'm trying to do is: burn (store?) my cd's to a 1tb hard drive. from what i'm told, it's probably best to select flac..that's all i know, at this point..my burn time is around 10 minutes total.

    thanks for your help
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    Back to linguistics: you're not burning; you're ripping. Burning is putting information onto a CD, ripping is taking information from a CD and putting it onto your cumputer.

    What program are you using to get the info off of your CD's? All ripping/converting programs are not created equally. You should use EAC (exact audio copy); it's free and can yield perfect results. Download here:

    http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/en/inde...rces/download/

    FLAC is best.

    Use foobar2000 to convert from WAV to FLAC and for playback. Also free. Download here:

    http://www.foobar2000.org/download
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    Yep, you are ripping, not burning. If you are going to flac as well, you are typically looking at two steps, rip to wav, convert to flac. Ripping is mostly dependent on the drive speed. Not a whole lot of improvement from 2005 to now on rip speed. Converting from wav to flac is dependent on system speed (CPU/Memory/Bus).
    I'd say 10 minutes total is not bad to rip and archive to flac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sda2mike View Post
    yeah there is a big difference between the lapper and the pc....what i'm trying to do is: burn (store?) my cd's to a 1tb hard drive. from what i'm told, it's probably best to select flac..that's all i know, at this point..my burn time is around 10 minutes total.

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    Dear Lord. 1,2,3.4.5.6.7....

    There's already a very informative thread started by Ricardo comparing dbpoweramp and media monkey for ripping & storing factors. EAC is also mentioned.
    Burning is not what you are doing.

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    Yes, ripping 500 cd's to lossless, a newer, faster desktop would speed things up. But I wouldn't advise just going at it mass quantities at a time. It's processor intensive. YOu may burn something up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falconcry72 View Post
    Back to linguistics: you're not burning; you're ripping. Burning is putting information onto a CD, ripping is taking information from a CD and putting it onto your cumputer.

    What program are you using to get the info off of your CD's? All ripping/converting programs are not created equally. You should use EAC (exact audio copy); it's free and can yield perfect results. Download here:

    http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/en/inde...rces/download/

    FLAC is best.

    Use foobar2000 to convert from WAV to FLAC and for playback. Also free. Download here:

    http://www.foobar2000.org/download
    i use EAC...are you saying, i need to rip with EAC, then run another pgm to convert to FLAC? when i set up EAC, it asks about the format??

    very confused:p

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    Quote Originally Posted by sda2mike View Post
    i use EAC...are you saying, i need to rip with EAC, then run another pgm to convert to FLAC? when i set up EAC, it asks about the format??

    very confused:p
    EAC usually needs a separate flac engine installed. They can work together and output FLAC.

    What extension do the files you are creating have? Are they .wav or .flac ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by billbillw View Post
    EAC usually needs a separate flac engine installed. They can work together and output FLAC.

    What extension do the files you are creating have? Are they .wav or .flac ?
    i was wondering abt that..they are .wav....ok, so i'll go back to EAC set up and look for the flac addon

    thanks!

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    Sounds like a slow hard drive. I don't think you can get it to rip any faster on that machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sda2mike View Post
    i was wondering abt that..they are .wav....ok, so i'll go back to EAC set up and look for the flac addon

    thanks!
    FLAC is a stand alone program, not an addon. You will have to install it separately, then setup EAC.

    BTW. you can just run FLAC on the wav files you've already ripped. No need to go back and re-run EAC on the same discs. Just run flac, then delete the original .wav files.

    You will have some difficulty getting EAC and FLAC to work properly the first time. It takes some trial/error. If you can't get it to work, just rip the wave and convert to FLAC manually. Overall, it probably won't take much more time.

    BTW, expect some delays when converting from wave to flac. Might take you another 5-10 minutes per disc. That is where a newer PC would help.

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    Silly question here. Why do you convert from wave to flac? I really have no clue.
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    Converting to flac saves hard drive space. With the prices of storage coming down rapidly, I don't even bother converting. I just rip files in WAV format.

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    I am right now going through the same process. I have a Dell XPS 410 which is a couple years old. I am ripping into FLAC using dbpoweramp.
    Time was around 3 min average. I installed yesterday a second hard drive to increase storage capacity, and I was surprised by the increase in the ripping speed. I am down to two minutes for most CD's. I am not sure what's the original HD, but the new one is a Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM and 3 GB/s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98Badger View Post
    Converting to flac saves hard drive space. With the prices of storage coming down rapidly, I don't even bother converting. I just rip files in WAV format.
    so...i have a 1tb ext hard drive...if i go uncompressed, will .wav be fine? i have around 500 cd's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sda2mike View Post
    so...i have a 1tb ext hard drive...if i go uncompressed, will .wav be fine? i have around 500 cd's.

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    Yes, CDs are less than 700MB each (usually much less). 500 CDs will take up less than 400GB

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    Quote Originally Posted by billbillw View Post
    Yes, CDs are less than 700MB each (usually much less). 500 CDs will take up less than 400GB
    +1

    FLAC is an ideal, not a pre-req. .WAV is just fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinAce View Post
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    FLAC is an ideal, not a pre-req. .WAV is just fine
    ok! one less step is cool:)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo View Post
    I am right now going through the same process. I have a Dell XPS 410 which is a couple years old. I am ripping into FLAC using dbpoweramp.
    Time was around 3 min average. I installed yesterday a second hard drive to increase storage capacity, and I was surprised by the increase in the ripping speed. I am down to two minutes for most CD's. I am not sure what's the original HD, but the new one is a Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM and 3 GB/s.
    Having that 2nd Drive allows the O.S. to cache temp files to your main drive and write to the 2nd. Call it a feature. ;)

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