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    Default Add a small 10"sub to Monitor 5 jrs

    I would like to add a small 10" sub to my vintage 2 channel audio setup.
    I'm sure this has been discussed several times, but I hope I can get some ideas from this post.

    My current set up is very basic, a Pioneer SX-650 receiver, Technics SL-23 beltdrive TT, a Sony CD player and my Polks.

    I love the little Polks with the SX-650; very good sound. But, can it be improved with a sub?

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    subs produce bass and independently at that if you wish. i have mon5's and a 10" and i think it sounds great but i like a bit more bass.

    1 thing to keep in mind is that bass can overshadow other sounds so it does change what you hear in other frequency ranges too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadianicon25 View Post
    subs produce bass and independently at that if you wish. i have mon5's and a 10" and i think it sounds great but i like a bit more bass.

    1 thing to keep in mind is that bass can overshadow other sounds so it does change what you hear in other frequency ranges too.
    What type/brand of SW do you have?

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    i dunno. sound dynamics i think. with subs i don't think it really matters that much. all it does is amplify a very narrow frequency band. boom, boom, boom...thats all they do. get what you can afford. if you turn it up too much you overpower a small speaker like mon 5's anyway.

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    I have a JBL PW10 -- it's a nice little 10 sub with selectable frequency x-over and volume...

    100 wats and has lfe and normal stereo inputs and outputs if you want to run your left and right channel through it....

    it's downward firing -- no problems does the job nicely

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    This is the one that i have

    Here's one for sell on ebay (no affiliation :) )

    http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-POWERBASS-PB...8#ht_720wt_919

    My daughter and son-in-law are using mine and i'm looking forward to taking possession of it again some time in the future

    good luck on the hunt for the small subwoofer.

    -- wayne --

    p.s. welcome to club polk :D
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    and then there's this...

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105130

    no affiliation :)

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    For the money, the PSW505 (polk) is amazingly small and useful. It is priced right along side the psw110 at the moment, and is a monster at the bottom end of the frequency range. Sure, it is no sonosub, but it blends nicely with the 5's with a little tuning and listening.

    I always prefer to have too much sound that I can reign in over not enough sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorokusai View Post

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    i've got 5jr's and a powered sub hooked up and it sounds great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorokusai View Post
    Would this work too?
    http://www.polkaudio.com/homeaudio/p...s=psw111#psw10

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    Quote Originally Posted by phocion View Post
    For the money, the PSW505 (polk) is amazingly small and useful. It is priced right along side the psw110 at the moment, and is a monster at the bottom end of the frequency range. Sure, it is no sonosub, but it blends nicely with the 5's with a little tuning and listening.

    I always prefer to have too much sound that I can reign in over not enough sound.
    That may be too big. This setup is going into a small bedroom/converted office/mancave. It be cranking too loud, unless my wife is yelling at me and I don't want to listen.
    ;)

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    An mirage prestige s8 would be nice as well. Very small, musical, and goes plenty low for a 2 channel rig. Look at Vanns and ebay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamark View Post
    That may be too big. This setup is going into a small bedroom/converted office/mancave. It be cranking too loud, unless my wife is yelling at me and I don't want to listen.
    ;)
    Yea, I have my 505 powered way down too, because it can get oppressive at even medium volume. I listened to them side by side, and decided that the 505 handles the bottom end more effortlessly, and thus would be easier to balance with the rest of my system. Depending on the size of your room, it might be overkill, because it does push a lot of air. For me, the dimensions and price were so close that I pulled the trigger on the 505.

    PSW505 - ~$250
    16-1/8" H x 15-1/8" W x 18-3/16" D

    PSW110 - ~$250
    14-1/2" H x 14-1/4" W x 17" D

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    Quote Originally Posted by rooftop59 View Post
    An mirage prestige s8 would be nice as well. Very small, musical, and goes plenty low for a 2 channel rig. Look at Vanns and ebay.
    That one may be overkill also. Would be great for the HT though.
    $99 for the PSW10 from Amazon - in a small bedroom - may be the thing.
    I'm just looking to add a little more low end.

    I'm wondering if I should even do this.

    Thanks though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by phocion View Post
    Yea, I have my 505 powered way down too, because it can get oppressive at even medium volume. I listened to them side by side, and decided that the 505 handles the bottom end more effortlessly, and thus would be easier to balance with the rest of my system. Depending on the size of your room, it might be overkill, because it does push a lot of air. For me, the dimensions and price were so close that I pulled the trigger on the 505.

    PSW505 - ~$250
    16-1/8" H x 15-1/8" W x 18-3/16" D

    PSW110 - ~$250
    14-1/2" H x 14-1/4" W x 17" D
    My room is probably 11x12 tops, with a laminate wood floor. I assume the PSW10 ($99 thru Amazon) will work with a two channel audio receiver.

    Looks like it will anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuul View Post
    i've got 5jr's and a powered sub hooked up and it sounds great.
    Zuul, are you set up in a small room? Using an older two channel receiver?
    What kind of sub do you have.

    Bamark

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamark View Post
    My room is probably 11x12 tops, with a laminate wood floor. I assume the PSW10 ($99 thru Amazon) will work with a two channel audio receiver.

    Looks like it will anyway.
    Welcome to Club Polk. I have a PSW10 in my kitchen eating area and in a small bedroom two channel system.
    They work fine for that and are fine at that price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bamark View Post
    My room is probably 11x12 tops, with a laminate wood floor. I assume the PSW10 ($99 thru Amazon) will work with a two channel audio receiver.

    Looks like it will anyway.
    Tiny mancave, but at least you have one! Yea, the PSW10 would probably be your best bet for that room size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bamark View Post
    Zuul, are you set up in a small room? Using an older two channel receiver?
    What kind of sub do you have.

    Bamark
    yeah... my apartment is less than 700 sq ft. and the room where my sub is is probably 15x15. luckily i'm on the top floor in the corner of an 100 yr old solid built brick building so i don't disturb my neighbors as much as i would if i lived in a more modern building with thinner walls and particle board floors etc.

    i've got a polk 8" 50 watt powered sub from a rm6000 satellite set. it's very similar to the psw10 mentioned above. i was lucky in that i found it on the "free" table in my apt building looking like it had just come out of the box. u can see my set up here:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/show...p?userid=89898

    and it's turned up just enough to add the bottom that's missing from the 5jr's as well as make the bass from movies sound really good but still subtle enough that i've never had a noise complaint in the several years i've been here. (although it's powerful enough that i could rock the house if i needed to ;) ) also... the "auto-on" function is really nice because you can listen to the 5jr's at low level and the sub won't turn on.... and at that volume the bass from the 5jr's is detailed enough that it still sounds good... i've got a 2nd output from my preamp so i'm using the line level instead of the speaker hook ups.

    i used to have a 150 watt 10" klh sub but it was too loud for this space and the attenuator wasn't as sensitive as the one on the polk... although the crossover on the klh claimed it went down to 60hz (the polk i have is 80hz) the polk is punchier and more natural sounding for music than the klh one. the klh was just boomy. both were front firing with a port.

    in general i've found 8" woofers to be more responsive than 10's (both in my car and apartment) and if it were me i'd be looking at this sub:

    http://www.poweredsubwoofers.org/pol...-single-black/

    if that's out of your price range you can't go wrong with the $88 10" 100 watter:


    stay away from downward firing subs if you are in an apt and want to be a good neighbor.

    i say go for it and have fun!
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    sorry...
    ^ that last part should read 10" 50 watt sub. i think if you have an older receiver the 50 watt sub will probably be more evenly matched than a 120 watt monster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phocion View Post
    Tiny mancave, but at least you have one! Yea, the PSW10 would probably be your best bet for that room size.
    Yea, tiny but I couldn't talk the wife out of one of the bigger bedrooms (we simply have to have a larger room for company).

    I think I've convinced myself that the PSW10 is the best bet.

    Thanks for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xcapri79 View Post
    Welcome to Club Polk. I have a PSW10 in my kitchen eating area and in a small bedroom two channel system.
    They work fine for that and are fine at that price.
    Thanks for your help.
    Would love to see pics of all your equipment.
    Do the LSi9's perform the way you expected? Primarily music or video?
    Would an 85W receiver (recently recapped) be a decent match for them?

    thanks

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    To all who posted based on the info I supplied.
    Those speakers are Monitor 5's NOT 5jrs.

    I don't know where the hell I got that, unless I'm just getting older and more prone to brain farts.

    oy:(

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    Well, that changes EVERYTHING!

    ;)

    Kidding, kidding... 85w is plenty for the small monitors, which are not as power hungry as their SDA cousins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phocion View Post
    Well, that changes EVERYTHING!

    ;)
    Yea I guess it does.

    Kidding, kidding... 85w is plenty for the small monitors, which are not as power hungry as their SDA cousins.
    I kill myself sometimes.


    I currently have them hooked up to my SX-650. The 850 is downstairs in the living room hooked up to HPM-60's. I had the 850 recapped, and the output went from 65 to 85w continous.
    I would love to do the same to the 650.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xcapri79 View Post
    Welcome to Club Polk. I have a PSW10 in my kitchen eating area and in a small bedroom two channel system.
    They work fine for that and are fine at that price.
    btw, thanks for the welcome.

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