Well, that avr seems to have only 80wpc. (not like i'm counting pennies here, but still..)
I don't need pre outs for this AVR. It's not that time in my life where adding an amp makes logistical or financial sense.
Again, with the pricing.. I know a guy who knows a guy who can get me anything I need as long as it's at Worst Buy, so there's that to consider as well. I can likely get speakers AND an AVR if the price is right (which is another reason that I'm trying to keep costs where I need them and not pay for "extras" I'll never use. Guess how many times I've actually used the different sound modes on my current AVR? Like, 10. In about 5 years. :) It's always stereo when listening to tunes, DolbyPL2+THX CINEMA for movies/tv..