DLNA and Bluray.....(Specifically BDP-S570)

[nguyendot]

So I picked up a Sony BDP-BX57 (Identical to BDP-S570 but sold at Costco/Sams with an HDMI cable) for $80 and was wondering about it.

So it has Wireless N, which is nice, so it doesn't stutter when playing media. It has DLNA and the XMB sony menu style (like PS3).

Unlike the PS3 though, its DLNA support is a bit lacking. Anyone get PS3 MEdia Server or something similar to work with it for all file types? So far I can only get MP4 items to work, and only using the built in Streaming options in Win7. PS3 Media Server shows up in the menu but everything shows "no playable file". I'm guessing because the file format it presents isn't compatible.

It's a nice player, and the price was awesome... I'd just like to get some more out of it. The PS3 streams great but doesn't have the bandwidth with its inferior wireless G that's castrated.

I played some MP4s last night in 1080p and it looked great, but most of my media is MKV... :)

[samnor]

I had asked a few questions about this and other topics related to the bdp-s570 but didnt get any response.

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110080

I've seen some threads about using free dlna servers (there's actually some web links that compare a bunch), and one name that came up as a dlna server that does transcoding on the fly was mezzmo and it supposedly allows you to play mkv's and other formats on the sony. Not free though, costs 30$ for a license.

The key thing is the transcoding part... seems like most dlna servers just serve up the content without any conversion and depending on the actual codec used, the sony wont play it even though the file format is supposedly compatible...

[samnor]

BTW, costco sold it for 80?? thats a heck of a deal. I dont have costco but the bj's over here was charging 160$.

[nguyendot]

No I was just identifying the model # was specific to Costco. I got it for $80 at a thrift store :)

[nguyendot]

I had asked a few questions about this and other topics related to the bdp-s570 but didnt get any response.

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110080

I've seen some threads about using free dlna servers (there's actually some web links that compare a bunch), and one name that came up as a dlna server that does transcoding on the fly was mezzmo and it supposedly allows you to play mkv's and other formats on the sony. Not free though, costs 30$ for a license.

The key thing is the transcoding part... seems like most dlna servers just serve up the content without any conversion and depending on the actual codec used, the sony wont play it even though the file format is supposedly compatible...

That's why I was wondering about PS3 Media Server... It most definitely transcodes. I just don't know what settings to set it to.

[samnor]

That's why I was wondering about PS3 Media Server... It most definitely transcodes. I just don't know what settings to set it to.

there's a ps3 media server forum. you could play around a bit and try a few different codecs. I've run into my fair share of codec issues as I am trying to use fios media manager that runs on my pc to stream to my fios settop box. I've had to convert those mkv's to mp4's/h.264 to get it to work with the settop but the process is very time consuming especially when trying to use free s/w.

[nguyendot]

I agree. It's also pretty CPU intensive unless you have GPU assist. My quad core handles it fine though. It was a pain just getting it to work with great quality on the PS3... I had to set up a Wireless N to Wireless N bridge between two routers with one as the client to get the bandwidth necessary to stream to my PS3. The Bluray player has N built in so it simplifies it even more.

[digitalvideo]

If speed and loading times are important to you than the new Sony's and Oppo's are the fastest. The Sony BDP-S570 is the fastest player out right now.

The five fastest Blu-ray players CNET tested:

http://reviews.cnet.com/2795-9991_7-398.html

According to the reviews though the Sony BDP-S570 has: "Very poor Netflix streaming video quality - jerky/choppy that, at times, renders it nearly unviewable."

The Oppo's and Pioneer's have the best PQ I believe which is more important than speed to me plus they have "Source Direct" mode.

[nguyendot]

Well I got it pretty cheap. For price performance ratio, the Sony 570 equivalent I got for $80 can't be touched by the Oppo or Pioneer.

The performance isn't horrible, and I don't use netflix (I have a PS3 for that if I realllly want). The streaming quality for MP4 and the Bluray performance is fantastic. The load times are fast, about 13s to boot in normal mode, and 1-2s in fast boot mode.
The fast boot mode keeps it in "standby" similar to a computer standby mode, with everything loaded in ram still. 9w of power during that. It sure kicks the crap out of my BDP-S1 for load times.

[nap]

I am considering the Sony 570 ($149 @ BB this week). I don't need it for streaming video but you would recommend it otherwise ?

[treitz3]

I would. Just got mine about a month ago and it does a WONDERFUL job with Blu-ray's. Nice to know it's in the top two fastest player category too. It has many features on it that I wasn't expecting and was pleasantly surprised about. Two thumbs up from me.

I would not recommend it as an SACD player.

[nap]

I would. Just got mine about a month ago and it does a WONDERFUL job with Blu-ray's. Nice to know it's in the top two fastest player category too. It has many features on it that I wasn't expecting and was pleasantly surprised about. Two thumbs up from me.

I would not recommend it as an SACD player.

That's cool at 100 bucks off it seemed like a good deal. Thanks.

[treitz3]

Enjoy.

[renowilliams]

Hi

I have the Sony BDP-S470 which is basically the same player except I had to buy a wirless dongle. Your player should be able to play .mkv files but avi may be a problem as you live in USA. Mine will play most everything.
One suggestion I would make is to do a firmware update if you havn't already.

I'm not sure what your using as a player to stream from your computer. I am using windows media player.

Just another though, .mkv files can be made up of mpeg2, mpeg4 or VC-1 files

[nguyendot]

It's been hooked the the net, so it's definitely updated.

Yes I'd recommend the 570, it's absurdly quick and the quality is very good. I have it attached to my Samsung LED right now and it's wonderful.

It will probably go out and replace the Panasonic 35k since it's so easy to use.

[cnh]

Well I got it pretty cheap. For price performance ratio, the Sony 570 equivalent I got for $80 can't be touched by the Oppo or Pioneer.

The performance isn't horrible, and I don't use netflix (I have a PS3 for that if I realllly want). The streaming quality for MP4 and the Bluray performance is fantastic. The load times are fast, about 13s to boot in normal mode, and 1-2s in fast boot mode.
The fast boot mode keeps it in "standby" similar to a computer standby mode, with everything loaded in ram still. 9w of power during that. It sure kicks the crap out of my BDP-S1 for load times.

OK, I see, I don't stream netflix on my PS3 only Audio and DVD quality video from my laptop/hard drive combo. As far as that bandwidth. No problem, no stuttering? The PS3s wireless is more than adequate for me. What is it that you can't do? Is it Netflix, Hi-def blu-ray because I can see where that could be a problem but I would never stream blu-ray when I can play it directly from a real disc?


cnh

[PrazVT]

I bought my sister the LG BD-570 for xmas (wifi N, blu-ray, netflix, mkv, avchd, divx), and it has played all my 1080p .m2ts blu-ray rips from the media server flawlessly. I use .m2ts (h.264 + 640kbps 5.1 dolby digital) b/c of the PS3's compatibility quirks, but the LG player has no issues with them either. AVCHD is .m2ts anyway. Also, it's playing via wifi N and no issues there.

But that was the reason I skipped the Sony. And I use TVersity Pro on the media server - not free, but will serve just about everything without any issues. Been using it for 2 years and quite happy with it.

[Glowrdr]

If speed and loading times are important to you than the new Sony's and Oppo's are the fastest. The Sony BDP-S570 is the fastest player out right now.

The five fastest Blu-ray players CNET tested:

http://reviews.cnet.com/2795-9991_7-398.html

According to the reviews though the Sony BDP-S570 has: "Very poor Netflix streaming video quality - jerky/choppy that, at times, renders it nearly unviewable."

The Oppo's and Pioneer's have the best PQ I believe which is more important than speed to me plus they have "Source Direct" mode.

I checked out this review - I wonder how the Oppo-93 would stack up in this.