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    Default File Not Found: The Record Industry's Digital Storage Crisis

    With the recent thread about DSD downloads and computer/server based sources, I thought this article might be of interest.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/17389/239965

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    Good read, Jesse.

    A new report issued by the Library of Congress calls digital formats "not inherently safe harbors of preservation"

    Ya think?

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    I wouldn't think any digital format today is safe down the road, so saving music I would think analog is the only way to save it.

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    Very interesting and quite scary!

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    Interesting, In the future the LOC will turn to the collector for vintage music recordings. How ironic.
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    Good post. File management is a huge problem in my world (I.T.). These kinds of problems exist across the digital domain. Poor backup policy. End users (in this case, engineers and archivists) are responsible for making the proper duplicates and storing them in separate locations, etc. Unfortunately, that really wasn't well understood in the early days of digital.

    Keep in mind though, that all of those problems are due to human error, not an inherent problem with digital format.

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    Move on. Nothing new here. The audio and movie industry have been telling us for years how the analog tapes are deteriorating, and being lost. It is infinitely easier to backup digital data than analog data. Of course, if you lose it then that is the operator's fault, not the medium.
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    It is infinitely easier to backup digital data than analog data.
    Easier yes, but not good enough it seems.

    EMI and Universal, immediately convert files of new albums onto systems like Linear Tape-Open (LTO), a heavy-duty digital-tape format used by banks to back up their data, and store the tapes in vaults around the country.
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    vinyl albums were supposed to last how long?
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    This is only because most of these guys in the record industry are simply incompetent when it comes to digital. Yes if you had one copy or a proprietary format/codec, you will lose that copy when the media goes bad. Make copies - distribute the archives, there are many, many techniques to ensure retention and recovery.

    What do you expect from the recording industry other than spreading fear about the technology that is destroying their dying economic model?

    These guys remind me of the scribes who had their profession destroyed by the printing press. The Abbot of Sponheim Johannes Trithemius wrote a famous treatise on how Scribes should not stop copying despite the printing press, decrying the value and relevance of books. Yes, he published it as a book, using it - you guessed it - a printing press.

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    Well now, isn't that interesting....
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction.

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    Good read... Makes one think. I have always said "it" cant happen, untill "it" did. And I now make copys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anonymouse View Post
    what do you expect from the recording industry other than spreading fear about the technology that is destroying their dying economic model?
    +1...
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    Yeah, 100% crap.

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    Very interesting read, Jesse. Thanks for posting it.

    This goes in hand with what I've been saying for a long time.

    I've recently somewhat embraced the digital age finally, and begun to download music...but it'll still never be a substitute for real CD's or vinyl to me. The only music that I've even downloaded so far though, has been live Grateful Dead shows that aren't available on official releases...and I doubt that my downloading will ever extend much beyond that realm.
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    Boring. If you believe that digital and it's backups will sudden disappear you should lay off the kool-aid.
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    The Library of Congress doesn't seem like they would need to lay off the Kool-aid. If there ever was an authority on preservation, they would be it.
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treitz3 View Post
    The Library of Congress doesn't seem like they would need to lay off the Kool-aid. If there ever was an authority on preservation, they would be it.
    True. I was very surprised to see them chime in negatively. Clearly they have not moved into the digital age. Its that government procurement machine. Probably have some design in their storage system that had its RFP written 10 years ago to be "fair" to all the prime contractors. Probably paying about 10 times what commercial enterprises are paying for their backup systems as well.

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    A U.S. federal agency that is incompetent, and inefficient?

    I'm shocked



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    While I can not comment on their efficiency......I can say with complete certainty that entire data, data transfer, and media preservation industries are guided by the Library of Congress. Whether it's on film, paper, photos, microfiche or discs matters not.

    The R&D process they have for medium preservation is mind boggling. They have actually shown and proved that some of the discs we listen too everyday can and will deteriorate over time. Somewhere deep in the depths of this forum is a video that shows exactly how this happens.
    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction.

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