Free Shipping on All Orders 1-866-764-1801

Vist our Online Store
+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 28 of 28
  1. #1

    Member Sales Rating: (9)

    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Quebec, Canada
    Posts
    1,864

    Default DLP or LCD projector

    Which one is better and why? Does anybody know anything about the Optoma HD22?

    I'm about to pull the trigger, I just need to do a bit more investigation.

    Oh yeah, one more thing. Sitting position will be 12' from the wall which will have a 100" screen...is this too close? Yeah I know about the online calculators, but in the real world, is it too close because it seems to be on the edge spec-wise.

    Joe
    Amplifiers: 1-SAE Mark IV, 4-SAE 2400, 1-SAE 2500, 2-SAE 2600, 1-Buttkicker BKA 1000N w/2-tactile transducers. Sources: Sony BDP CX7000es, Sony CX300/CX400/CX450/CX455, SAE 8000 tuner, Akai 4000D R2R, Technics 1100A TT, Epson 8500UB with Carada 100". Speakers:Polk SDA SRS, 3.1TL, FXi5, FXi3, 2-SVS 20-29, Yamaha, SVS center sub. Power:2-Monster HTS3500, Furman M-8D & RR16 Plus. 2-SAE 4000 X-overs, SAE 5000a noise reduction, MSB Link DAC III, MSB Powerbase, Behringer 2496, Monarchy DIP 24/96.

  2. #2

    Member Sales Rating: (6)

    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    5,506

    Default

    you can go bigger in my opinion, so don't sweat that part. is there any way to audition both technologies? i personally haven't seen a dlp projector in action. but i do read about some persons are more prone to seeing a "rainbow effect". you can research that term if you like.

    on the flip side, many do not like the "screen door effect" of lcd. that is more dependant on how close you are to the screen. i haven't seen really anyone else's projector, but my panny 4000 has very minimal screen door effect and gives a more "film-like" appeal. it may not POP quite as much though as it tends to just barely soften the picture over others that are more afflicted with "sde".

    i'm sure sherard will chime in about bypassing lcd and dlp altogether for lcos. but then you're in a different league and price scale. though i'm sure nobody can argue lcos is better. i didn't have that kind of coin so i had to veer off into the lcd direction.

    POLK SDA-SRS 1.2TL -- ADCOM GFA-5802
    PANASONIC PT-AE4000U -- DIY WILSONART DW 135" 2.35:1 SCREEN
    ONKYO TX-SR805
    CENTER: CSI5
    MAINS: RTI8'S
    SURROUNDS: RTI8'S
    7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
    SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)

    XBOX 360
    WiiPS3/blu-rayTOSHIBA HD-A35 hd dvd

    http://polkarmy.com/forums/index.php

    Quote Originally Posted by bobman1235
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.

  3. #3

    Member Sales Rating: (0)

    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Galveston
    Posts
    2,983

    Default

    Mantis should pop in also with his opinion...research and find some where to demo
    Home Theater:Samsung8000-55LED,Pioneer SC35, Pioneer DV-79AVi, Sunfire TGA7201, LSi25, LCi RTSc, LC80i
    2chnl system:Melody 101 tube pre, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, W4S Dac, MG Audio Planus2 speaker cables
    Office rig: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures

  4. #4

    Member Sales Rating: (6)

    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    5,506

    Default

    go to avs.com and read till your eyes bleed.

    POLK SDA-SRS 1.2TL -- ADCOM GFA-5802
    PANASONIC PT-AE4000U -- DIY WILSONART DW 135" 2.35:1 SCREEN
    ONKYO TX-SR805
    CENTER: CSI5
    MAINS: RTI8'S
    SURROUNDS: RTI8'S
    7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
    SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)

    XBOX 360
    WiiPS3/blu-rayTOSHIBA HD-A35 hd dvd

    http://polkarmy.com/forums/index.php

    Quote Originally Posted by bobman1235
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.

  5. #5

    Member Sales Rating: (3)

    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Northern CO.
    Posts
    2,429

    Default

    Sherard referred me to this one and I got it from these people and have not looked back. its refurbished but looks brand new and the picture looks excellent. 110" screen at 11.5' and does not hurt my eyes just watched Avatar the other night and was amazed, I will never go to the movies again. also absolutely no screen door effect.

    http://www.projectorpeople.com/proje...6100+B%2DStock

  6. #6

    Member Sales Rating: (0)

    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Posts
    868

    Default

    my opinion, go LCoS (also called D-ILA) from JVC. No rainbow effect like DLPs, no screen door effect like LCDs. Higher native contrast ratios without the use of so-called dynamic iris controls which affects image.

  7. #7

    Member Sales Rating: (9)

    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Quebec, Canada
    Posts
    1,864

    Default

    I'm almost afraid to look at the LCoS options....they already sound out of my price range.

    If this helps any....my pj will be strictly for watching movies and concerts. NO SPORTS, and NO T.V. (I voluntarily got rid of cable years ago).

    Joe
    Amplifiers: 1-SAE Mark IV, 4-SAE 2400, 1-SAE 2500, 2-SAE 2600, 1-Buttkicker BKA 1000N w/2-tactile transducers. Sources: Sony BDP CX7000es, Sony CX300/CX400/CX450/CX455, SAE 8000 tuner, Akai 4000D R2R, Technics 1100A TT, Epson 8500UB with Carada 100". Speakers:Polk SDA SRS, 3.1TL, FXi5, FXi3, 2-SVS 20-29, Yamaha, SVS center sub. Power:2-Monster HTS3500, Furman M-8D & RR16 Plus. 2-SAE 4000 X-overs, SAE 5000a noise reduction, MSB Link DAC III, MSB Powerbase, Behringer 2496, Monarchy DIP 24/96.

  8. #8

    Member Sales Rating: (18)

    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Virginia
    Posts
    2,452

    Default

    Love my JVC projector. Had the Epson LCD projector as well and never really had a problem with SDE sitting 12' away. Owned a 62" DLP television and I feel in the class of seeing the RBE. I purchased a Samsung LED to replace the DLP and couldn't be happier. If you have the extra coin look into the LCoS projector's, Sony makes them as well, if not, I'd lean more towards the LCD projector's. As far as brands, look into the Epson's and the Panny LCD projector's, them seem to be the best bang for the buck right now.
    Money Talks, Mine says Goodbye Rob!!!!
    "My Theater Room"

  9. #9
    Spaceman Spiff
    Member Sales Rating: (22)

    Join Date
    Jul 2001
    Location
    Surf City, CA
    Posts
    8,469

    Default

    I'm on my 3rd LCD FP. I'm running an Epson 1080UB right now, 7' from a 96" screen. The image is amazing. You can go bigger, in fact 12' from a 100" is too far IMO. Like Grimster above says about SDE, that was an issue with lower rez PJ but it does not exist with higher rez PJ.

    I avoided DLP FP's due to the rainbow effect. My first was a DLP and it was quickly shipped back and exchanged for an LCD, and I've never looked back. Some say DLP will produce better blacks, but that was years ago.

    I have purchased all my projectors from projectorpeople.com and will never shop anywhere else. Fantastic company.
    If...
    Ron dislikes a film = go out and buy it.
    Ron loves a film = don't even rent.

  10. #10

    Member Sales Rating: (9)

    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Quebec, Canada
    Posts
    1,864

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by BIZILL View Post
    go to avs.com and read till your eyes bleed.
    They're about ready to bleed. I'm going back and forth from this forum to the avs forum.

    Joe
    Amplifiers: 1-SAE Mark IV, 4-SAE 2400, 1-SAE 2500, 2-SAE 2600, 1-Buttkicker BKA 1000N w/2-tactile transducers. Sources: Sony BDP CX7000es, Sony CX300/CX400/CX450/CX455, SAE 8000 tuner, Akai 4000D R2R, Technics 1100A TT, Epson 8500UB with Carada 100". Speakers:Polk SDA SRS, 3.1TL, FXi5, FXi3, 2-SVS 20-29, Yamaha, SVS center sub. Power:2-Monster HTS3500, Furman M-8D & RR16 Plus. 2-SAE 4000 X-overs, SAE 5000a noise reduction, MSB Link DAC III, MSB Powerbase, Behringer 2496, Monarchy DIP 24/96.

  11. #11

    Member Sales Rating: (3)

    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Northern CO.
    Posts
    2,429

    Default

    here is a pic of my Epson 6100 in post # 32, 110" screen 1080p click on it to make it larger. Not bad for $900, and I like it because its a big projector, lets you know its not a toy.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/show...=109947&page=2

  12. #12

    Member Sales Rating: (0)

    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Garden City, MI
    Posts
    18

    Default

    I've ben living with a Sharp projector xv-z3000 DLP with 100" Grandview screen since 2006 It is great and I love what it does for me especially, with my Blu Rays and HD DVD's.. Before I pulled the trigger on it I additioned many others and the LCD did not do it for me at the time, the Sharp was the one who preformed best for me within my price range. I still enjoy going to the Highend stores and seeing the latest and greatiest toys out their. Even still I dont feel the need to upgrade.
    Polks All The Way
    Fronts RT55i
    Front Presence RT35i
    Center CSi40
    Side Channels FXi50
    Rears RT55i
    Rear Presence RT15i
    Bottom Line, Greatness and Fun....

  13. #13

    Member Sales Rating: (6)

    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    chicagoland, IL
    Posts
    1,935

    Default

    I love DLP. The screen-door effect of LCD drives me crazy. Also I love how text loks on a DLP projector. its way crisp. and LCD contrast makes things a little fuzzy in my opinion. Also, some DLP's have solid-state illumination, which mean never change a bulb. Another thing is that LCD has the potential for color decay over time.
    design is where science and art break even.

  14. #14

    Member Sales Rating: (6)

    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    5,506

    Default

    let me take away the worry i instilled by mentioning screen door effect on lcd. with my panny, i don't see screen door effect until about 2-3 feet away from my 135" screen. the panny does better than most all other lcds due to "smoothscreen" technology or whatever they call it. either way, it is basically a non-issue.

    POLK SDA-SRS 1.2TL -- ADCOM GFA-5802
    PANASONIC PT-AE4000U -- DIY WILSONART DW 135" 2.35:1 SCREEN
    ONKYO TX-SR805
    CENTER: CSI5
    MAINS: RTI8'S
    SURROUNDS: RTI8'S
    7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
    SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)

    XBOX 360
    WiiPS3/blu-rayTOSHIBA HD-A35 hd dvd

    http://polkarmy.com/forums/index.php

    Quote Originally Posted by bobman1235
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.

  15. #15

    Member Sales Rating: (0)

    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Gatineau, Quebec Canada
    Posts
    4,262

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by newrival View Post
    I love DLP. The screen-door effect of LCD drives me crazy. Also I love how text loks on a DLP projector. its way crisp. and LCD contrast makes things a little fuzzy in my opinion. Also, some DLP's have solid-state illumination, which mean never change a bulb. Another thing is that LCD has the potential for color decay over time.
    Fully agreed with your entire post. At work we used plenty of LCD and they work fine for the purpose we use them for but after X amount of hours the decay is not fun to look at. For most people they will more likely not realize this decay until they are faced with a newer projector. As far as DLP, I love mine (Optoma) and when I bought it, I brought it to our office and asked our PJ guru to test it every ways he tought was required to check its potential and he totally agreed that I should keep it that at this price point it was a no briner. Never noticed any rainbow effect, we had only one technician that could ever notice such as most people will never have any issues with such. I never use mine for TV viewing, it is dedicated for movies and the odd family gaming for our family youngster during family events such as Xmas parties.

  16. #16

    Member Sales Rating: (36)

    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Posts
    5,199

    Default

    My old Epson 8500UB didn't have the screen door effect. I went with LCD over DLP precisely because the pricier DLPs still suffer from a degree of rainbow effect. To be fair however, both technologies work well when implemented properly. I've seen some DLPs that would make you **** your pants, but they cost way more than an LCD that IMO looks better than all the DLP in the same price bracket.

  17. #17

    Member Sales Rating: (1)

    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Back from Japan in Clover, SC
    Posts
    7,816

    Default

    Both SDE and RBE are fully subjective. The OP probably will not notice any SDE on the Epson units since that is now to a minimum. Technology in the Epsons are fantastic. The first one I seen was Grimsters and I have since followed them to current. I recommend Epson because for the price they are very good. The top model gets close to the JVC's but not quite. The Panny 4000U ($2K) is great but depends on your budget. The black level of the higher end Epson pulls ahead slightly over the Panny in black level. However the Panny has a great feature set. If I were on a budget, $1000 or less, check out the Epson I posted in your other thread. The 6100 at PPeople is a great deal, they will also allow you to demo the unit for X amount of hours and return it if your not happy.

    Seating distance, though there are standards can be adjusted. I'm about 12.5' from a 126" screen and there are no problems at all. Any questions feel free to ask. If your interested in a JVC I have one in excellent/mint condition that I'd sell you. JVC projectors are excellent, kuro- like black levels and a stunning image. I sold my HD1 to Grimster and now own a RS10. They are expensive starting around 4k a pop, but I'm hooked on them.

    Edit: Any questions just ask. Epson if your on a budget wanting best image possible.

    http://www.projectorpeople.com/proje...6100+B%2DStock

    http://www.projectorpeople.com/proje...me+Cinema+8350

    Reviews
    http://www.projectorreviews.com/epso...00/summary.php

    http://www.projectorreviews.com/epso...50/summary.php
    Last edited by Sherardp; 12-16-2010 at 03:01 AM.
    Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!! !

    Home Theater Pics in the Showcase

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/show...p?userid=73580

  18. #18

    Member Sales Rating: (2)

    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    McMinnville, OR
    Posts
    2,019

    Default

    We like to let Sherard pretend that he knows about projectors, so humor him...
    :)

    On a related note...if I were interested in starting with a projector, does it need to be ceiling-mounted?
    Quote Originally Posted by MrNightly View Post
    "Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."
    Quote Originally Posted by mystik610 View Post
    Best Buy is for people who don't know any better. Magnolia is for people who don't know any better and have more money to spend.
    My System:


    Blu-Ray player: Samsung BD-P1600
    TV: SAMSUNG UN55B7000 55" 1080p LED HDTV

  19. #19

    Member Sales Rating: (1)

    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Back from Japan in Clover, SC
    Posts
    7,816

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanjoachim View Post
    We like to let Sherard pretend that he knows about projectors, so humor him...
    :)

    On a related note...if I were interested in starting with a projector, does it need to be ceiling-mounted?
    +1 on this. I said it before, but I'm not the know it all guy. I do get out and look at them, due to always looking for the next best thing outside of my JVC. If I were more serious about the hobby I would buy a Sim2 PJ, but for some reason I just can't see spending 20K on a projector.
    Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!! !

    Home Theater Pics in the Showcase

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/show...p?userid=73580

  20. #20

    Member Sales Rating: (1)

    Join Date
    Jul 2001
    Location
    Mobile, AL
    Posts
    3,267

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanjoachim View Post
    On a related note...if I were interested in starting with a projector, does it need to be ceiling-mounted?
    Typically, so long as the projector has lens shift, placement is pretty flexible. For instance, with my Epson 8500UB, I have it mounted on a shelf on the back wall... but it fired just fine from a table down at the seating level of my couch too. The lens shift gives you enough placement options that you can really stick it just about anywhere. That said, I kinda' wish I had ceiling mounted it now, mostly 'cause I can't play Kinect in front of it. I kinda' have to put Kinect off to one side.
    Equipment list:
    Onkyo TX-NR3010 9.2 AVR
    Emotiva XPA-3 amp
    Polk RTi70 mains, CSi40 center, RTi38 surrounds, RTi28 rears and heights
    SVS 20-39CS+ subwoofer powered by Crown XLS1500
    Oppo BDP-93 Blu-ray player
    DarbeeVision DVP5000 video processor
    Epson 8500UB 1080p projector
    Elite Screens Sable 120" CineWhite screen

  21. #21
    Spaceman Spiff
    Member Sales Rating: (22)

    Join Date
    Jul 2001
    Location
    Surf City, CA
    Posts
    8,469

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherardp View Post
    Both SDE and RBE are fully subjective. The OP probably will not notice any SDE on the Epson units since that is now to a minimum. Technology in the Epsons are fantastic.
    So very true. With the 720p units SDE was noticeable on my Z3 at 4'. But now, with my Epson 1080UB feeding it a pure 1080p signal you cannot see SDE at 1'.

    SDE does not exist on quality 1080p machines.
    If...
    Ron dislikes a film = go out and buy it.
    Ron loves a film = don't even rent.

  22. #22

    Member Sales Rating: (2)

    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    McMinnville, OR
    Posts
    2,019

    Default

    If I wanted a decent 1080p projector, what's the average minimum?
    Quote Originally Posted by MrNightly View Post
    "Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."
    Quote Originally Posted by mystik610 View Post
    Best Buy is for people who don't know any better. Magnolia is for people who don't know any better and have more money to spend.
    My System:


    Blu-Ray player: Samsung BD-P1600
    TV: SAMSUNG UN55B7000 55" 1080p LED HDTV

  23. #23

    Member Sales Rating: (1)

    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Back from Japan in Clover, SC
    Posts
    7,816

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ryanjoachim View Post
    If I wanted a decent 1080p projector, what's the average minimum?
    Average $800-$1200 would be minimum, and that's ballpark figure. See the links I posted in my earlier post.
    Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!! !

    Home Theater Pics in the Showcase

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/show...p?userid=73580

  24. #24

    Member Sales Rating: (2)

    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    McMinnville, OR
    Posts
    2,019

    Default

    Wow...talk about misconception killing you.

    I was under the impression that decent 1080p projectors were 2k+, which is a big reason i've never considered one over an HDTV.
    Quote Originally Posted by MrNightly View Post
    "Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."
    Quote Originally Posted by mystik610 View Post
    Best Buy is for people who don't know any better. Magnolia is for people who don't know any better and have more money to spend.
    My System:


    Blu-Ray player: Samsung BD-P1600
    TV: SAMSUNG UN55B7000 55" 1080p LED HDTV

  25. #25
    Spaceman Spiff
    Member Sales Rating: (22)

    Join Date
    Jul 2001
    Location
    Surf City, CA
    Posts
    8,469

    Default

    I've never considered large HDTV's mainly because of there price compared to projectors. You can do so much more, go so much bigger and have equal the PQ for less.
    If...
    Ron dislikes a film = go out and buy it.
    Ron loves a film = don't even rent.

  26. #26

    Member Sales Rating: (1)

    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Back from Japan in Clover, SC
    Posts
    7,816

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron-P View Post
    I've never considered large HDTV's mainly because of there price compared to projectors. You can do so much more, go so much bigger and have equal the PQ for less.
    Wish I could say the same Ron-P. For me it was "seeing to believe it" . Once I saw Grimsters setup I had to go front projection. Now, I can definitely agree with you and am right there with you bro. Popcorn in hand of course.
    Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!! !

    Home Theater Pics in the Showcase

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/show...p?userid=73580

  27. #27

    Member Sales Rating: (0)

    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Boise, ID
    Posts
    334

    Default

    I have an Infocus X-1 Dlp projector that has been around for about 7 years now. I sit about 15 feet from a 112" screen and the picture is great! I do notice a rainbow now and then but it is when I am really tired and nodding off. The resolution is running at 1080I through the vga port. You can run a 1080I dvd player through the vga port with a ypbr adapter. I was going to upgrade to a higher resolution projector but the nice girl at Infocus told me that my picture would be no better than what it is now. It all depends on the source material being fed to it. One dvd can look great and the next one is not so great. With the new HDTV and an HDTV tuner, tv has never looked this good! The bigger the screen, the more the quality of the source material will show.

  28. #28

    Member Sales Rating: (1)

    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Back from Japan in Clover, SC
    Posts
    7,816

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by jim 249 View Post
    I have an Infocus X-1 Dlp projector that has been around for about 7 years now. I sit about 15 feet from a 112" screen and the picture is great! I do notice a rainbow now and then but it is when I am really tired and nodding off. The resolution is running at 1080I through the vga port. You can run a 1080I dvd player through the vga port with a ypbr adapter. I was going to upgrade to a higher resolution projector but the nice girl at Infocus told me that my picture would be no better than what it is now. It all depends on the source material being fed to it. One dvd can look great and the next one is not so great. With the new HDTV and an HDTV tuner, tv has never looked this good! The bigger the screen, the more the quality of the source material will show.
    At 112" screen a full 080p HD PJ is a world of difference. I would recommend you get and look at some. BB carries the Epson and the Optoma.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824219062

    http://www.projectorpeople.com/proje...6100+B%2DStock

    http://www.projectorpeople.com/proje...subishi+HC4000

    http://www.projectorpeople.com/proje...=BenQ+W1000%2B
    Shoot the jumper.....................BALLIN.............!!!! !

    Home Theater Pics in the Showcase

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/show...p?userid=73580

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Similar Threads

  1. Got my new projector set up!
    By mutelight in forum Electronics
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 02-23-2008, 09:26 AM
  2. TV vs. Projector
    By Marlboro_Man in forum Electronics
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 02-14-2008, 03:21 PM
  3. DIY projector
    By doggie750 in forum DIY, Mods & Tweaks
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 02-11-2006, 11:53 AM
  4. DIY HD projector for $300.
    By McLoki in forum Electronics
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 12-12-2005, 08:11 PM
  5. What do you think about this projector?
    By kelley in forum Electronics
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 03-07-2004, 10:12 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts