Should I have primered first?

[exalted512]

Got some older plywood cabinets to put in my garage. They were originally stained. So I sanded them down a little and just painted over it with some cheap home depot paint.

Is it going to eventually peel off? I didn't even really think to primer it until after...oops.

Reason I'm asking is because I still have one more cabinet to paint...so I can at least do it on that one...but if its going to stick fine to plywood then I'm not going to go buy any.

Thanks,
-Cody

[warren]

Depends on your standards.... Read the label....Thats the real primer to painting, the instructions....

[anonymouse]

HD Glidden paint is crap. It will probably peel with or without primer. At least that is my experience. If you did not use Glidden, then you may be ok.

[nap]

HD Glidden paint is crap. It will probably peel with or without primer. At least that is my experience. If you did not use Glidden, then you may be ok.

I would think if you sanded and used a good quality primer you would be okay.
I have had decent results with the Glidden primer named the Gripper. I have no opinion on the Glidden paint as I always use BEHR. HTH. Cheers.

[opus]

Cody,

Couple of things, Depends on well you sanded them> If you just sanded them a little bit then the chances are that the paint won't adhere too well and will not be resistant to scratching and abrasion but likely will not just fall off. It sounds like you are not looking for perfection so just sand the next one down a liitle more thorough and go for it.

Or you can just paint it with a waterbased adhesion primer that will also pass as a topcoat like Zinser 1,2,3. Couple of coats and you are done.

Or you can do it right,, prime with Zinser 1,2,3 or Zinser Coverstain ( both available at HD) and topcoat with you original paint.

[treitz3]

What type and brand of paint did you use? I.E. Satin, flat, semi-gloss, etc.....and is the paint applied oil or a water based paint. All of the above will affect the long-term outcome of whether or not the paint will peel.

Also, do you know what type of paint the original substrate was? Oil or water based?

[exalted512]

I'll have to look at the paint can in a bit. What does it mean if you can scratch the paint off but it doesn't just 'rub' off? Normal?
-Cody

[treitz3]

You're screwed. That is if it's completely dry.

Sounds like you just added a water based paint directly over an oil based paint.

[Joe08867]

Home Depot Paints Suck in general. Behr, Glidden, Ralph Fricken Lauren all of them.

I use Sherwin Williams, or Dutch Boy only now.

If your garage is not heated I would suggest Priming. The temperature and moisture changes can wreak havoc on un-primed surfaces.

[shack]

There is a chance without a primer the stain will bleed through your top coat. Any time you put a waterbase paint over an oilbase product it is a good idea to use a primer.

[treitz3]

Well, at this point, you can do two things. Remove the paint you just applied [then prime and repaint], or try a little trick I learned that may not be the professional way of getting it done, but it works. Priming over what you just painted will only lead to further delamination in the future.

The little trick will take a bit of typing, so let me know if you want to go that route.

[exalted512]

I think I'll just leave it the way it is. I had to scratch it pretty damn hard to get paint to come off.

I did prime the other cabinet today. I'll paint it tomorrow.
-Cody