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    Need help with options for streaming music. Is there a site like Netflix where you can pay a monthly fee to get music of your choice?

    New to streaming so I need a little help on sites and prices.

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    I've seen ads for unlimited Rhapsody on G4 lately. You don't own it but can download as much as you want. As far as free streamers, I've been using Slacker for a long time. That's all I know off hand.

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    I want something I can put into my HT room. I thought they might sell a device I can plug up to my receiver or pre and pay a monthly fee and get unlimited music without having to deal with a computer.

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    Uh....Xm/Sirius? Sirius has a higher resolution format available for $3 more a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dorokusai View Post
    Uh....Xm/Sirius?
    What about Pandora? I think there are a couple of fans on here, though I never used it myself so can't say.
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    I've heard of Pandora but have never used it.

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    Pandoras good and pandora1 is the pay service with high res but you cant choose freely what songs you wana hear

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    Does apple make anything like that?

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    you should check last.fm too....

    it's a little different than pandora. You can monitor your music listening from winamp or from itunes.... (or wiindows media player for that matter). Then it can make recommendations for you to listen to. It also identifies the 50 closest neighbors that you have based on musical "scrobbling". You can listen to anyone else's station you choose and "scrobble" their station - which adds the songs that it plays from their station to your's.

    all very complicated but quite easy and simple too.

    can't vouch for the quality though -- i'll assume it's 128kb flash (at best)

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    If you don't have anything currently that streams music, (i.e. TV, BRP, AVR) - you might want to check into a Squeezebox.

    This will initially need a PC to setup, but once everything is set, you don't need to use the PC anymore. This will allow you to stream your own music from your PC (if you desire) - otherwise it will allow you to stream any of the above listed items with the exception of Serius/XM

    Basically the squeezebox is a wireless player, that connects directly to your network, so it IS your computer. I've got the Duet, which has a little 3"x4" black wireless router that connects via Optical (or digital coaxial) to my receiver. I use it in place of an actual CD player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by polkfarmboy View Post
    Pandoras good and pandora1 is the pay service with high res but you cant choose freely what songs you wana hear
    +1. I use the free version and the bitrate is 128kbps. Pandora also does some kind of "learning" and chooses music based on your likes/dislikes which you can apply to each song on your "station". what you do is first set up a station where you pick songs/artists/albums you like... you can just do a few if you dont have time and it would play those as well as songs that it thinks are similar... pretty simple interface and works on all devices now (tv's, blu ray players etc) all have pandora support...
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    I'm not sure what state of mind I was in earlier, but I completely thought your OP said that you wanted to get music without your PC (which is why I went the SB direction)

    But I will give a huge +1 for Pandora. It's free for the basic, well worth a shot. You tell it a song or artist you like, and it goes from there. Then you can add other artists, or like/dislike songs/artists and it will learn your preferences.

    There are commercials every ~30 minutes or so, and you are limited to 40 hours a month for free. If you upgrade to the P+, you get higher bitstream, commercial free, and its' only .99 a month (might be like $15 for the year, I remember month-to-month was cheaper for some odd reason)
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    Another option if you can get a group of people in on it is Simplify Media. It allows you to stream your music library to iPhone or computer PLUS share your library with up to 30 friends (and they can do likewise). They don't get to copy the music but simply stream it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FTGV View Post
    This.

    Grooveshark > Pandora.

    Imeem used to be the best in my opinion, but then MySpace bought them.
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    You are aware that most streaming sites especially the free one's, stream heavily compressed music. It's nice for background or parties but leaves a lot to be desired if you are looking for something high quality. The possible exception being Sirrus but then you pay more for that.

    I understand not everything in this hobby has to be spectacular sound, but what I'm getting at is either buy something multi-purpose like a Squeezebox or don't spend a lot on the device or service when it's very mediocre to begin with.

    Many of the new DVDp that stream netflix also stream Pandora.

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    Grooveshark has fairly decent audio quality, at least on par with Pandora if not better. I wouldn't do "critical" listening with either, but i'm certainly not annoyed with the quality. I'm usually just cranking these when i'm cleaning/making dinner anyways. That said, my system is also VERY forgiving, which is something i wanted, since most of the bands that i like, have their cds recorded in a very terrible fashion. :tongue:
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    Pandora1 is 192kbps - but not all devices get that high quality signal - ie. if you're streaming from a computer or iPhone you'll get it. But you'll only get 128kbps from a Squeezebox.

    Also, you can't just choose songs on Pandora - but after using the thumbs up / down feature, it does a great job picking songs. My 'Tears for Fears' station ends up playing stuff from the 80s to now - 90% of it great songs.
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    What about XM? Polk had a really nice player, the XRt12. The can be had for $75-150. IMO, they sound excellent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leroyjr1 View Post
    Does apple make anything like that?
    I use the apple tv to stream music from my Itunes on my mac to my processor. The processor has upsampling dacs so I don't know how it would sound in your system, but the sound is good for me. I would not say it is cd quality, but better than radio or cable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newrival View Post
    What about XM? Polk had a really nice player, the XRt12. The can be had for $75-150. IMO, they sound excellent.
    I can't imagine that XM would sound good. I have a trial in my Acura and even though I like some of the programming, the music is super compressed and sounds horrible.

    There are quite a few decent streaming services that have been mentioned here already, but not a lot of good ways to listen, when you aren't at your computer. That's where a device like a Squeezebox, or Apple TV will come in handy. I haven't yet used Apple TV, but have a couple of Squeezeboxes connected, and I have also used an Apple Airport Express to stream music. The limitation with Apples devices (Airport Express and Apple TV), is that you can typically only stream stuff that is in iTunes. iTunes also has to be running in order to use them. The nice thing is you can use an iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad, or the Apple TV remote to control them.

    IMO, the Squeezebox is a much more flexible option especially, if you are looking at doing streaming in more than one room.

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    Here are some responses to a similar question.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/show...treaming+radio

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdpeck View Post
    The limitation with Apples devices (Airport Express and Apple TV), is that you can typically only stream stuff that is in iTunes. iTunes also has to be running in order to use them. The nice thing is you can use an iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad, or the Apple TV remote to control them.

    IMO, the Squeezebox is a much more flexible option especially, if you are looking at doing streaming in more than one room.
    That is exactly right, I have a substantial itunes library so the limitation to itunes is not a huge factor, plus my playlists are always available to fit my mood or needs. Using the Apple TV (only $99 bucks now!!!) in each room allows me to have access to Netflix and music in any room without any cables or wires being run. Overall I really like the interface, menu, and overall options. I do leave Itunes open on my Mac at all times anyways and the music quality has surpassed my expectations thus far. I ordered a couple MIT HDMI cables, I will see if it makes a difference at all.

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    Leroy,

    I listen to pandora too. It is within the avr, however aforementioned it is limited to a bitrate of 128kbs. It is really great for background. I just learned about the pandora1 just now. If the pandora1 steps up to 192kbs that would be much better. But gosh thats just another bill! LOL


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    I've been using Pandora lateley as well. The free version.

    I don't notice any quality issues, but I'm usually working when I'm listening.

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    Only complaint is every dozen or so songs, it pops up with the "Are you still listening" box

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    Quote Originally Posted by concealer404 View Post
    Grooveshark has fairly decent audio quality, at least on par with Pandora if not better. I wouldn't do "critical" listening with either, but i'm certainly not annoyed with the quality.
    My thoughts exacty.I use it only with my PC rig and find it more than acceptable.

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