opinion on velodyne sub

**tschep20** · 08-15-2003 11:42 PM

i've replaced all my speakers so far except for my sub. I have the Rti150 in front with the Csi40 center channel and the Fxi50 for the surround. I can get the velodyne CHT12 sub for about $250. I wasn't looking to spend to much money and this fits pretty well into my budget after getting all the other speakers. Last thing i don't want to do is finish off my system with a mediocre sub. Can i just get some opinions on this sub, cause i see a lot of people here like svs.

**Frank Z** · 08-16-2003 12:27 AM

Before you spend any money on a sub (SVS or anything else), Pick up a copy of the new S&V magazine. There's a pretty good review of some popular sub's. Might save you some coin in the long haul!

**polkatese** · 08-16-2003 12:33 AM

Frank,
I read the sub review, bag-end infrasub at $1700, who makes it? never heard of it. No SVS, no Sunfire, I smell rat..;) who got to decide which subs to review...

**Frank Z** · 08-16-2003 12:39 AM

Originally posted by polkatese
Frank,
I read the sub review, bag-end infrasub at $1700, who makes it? never heard of it. No SVS, no Sunfire, I smell rat..;) who got to decide which subs to review...

Some drunk editor!:D

**mantis** · 08-16-2003 08:30 AM

tschep20,
Velodyne subs are nice,even the low end ones like what your looking at.The price you can get that sub for is a good price,but knowing if it's the right sub for all those nice speakers is another thing.

If the sub sounds really good to you then buy it,if theres other subs you listened to....... compare.Listen to many before you buy one.Don't let the dollar make your decision for you,as much as that might not make sense.

**Zero** · 08-16-2003 08:44 AM

For 250 bones, the CHT-12 is going to be difficult to beat. I have yet to come across a dis-satisfied Velodyne owner.... and I believe this sub would mate well with your existing system.

Other then that, I second Dan's post.

**tschep20** · 08-16-2003 08:30 PM

now i found out that i can also get the polk psw650 for $270. so which should i get the polk or the velodyne? any opinions on each?

**Airplay355** · 08-16-2003 09:20 PM

everyone has just told me to buy amps for my rti150s instead of buying a seperate sub...idk i dont have cash for either so it doesnt really matter. might be something to look into. i dont know amp prices or anything just offering another solution because im guesssing rti150s either exceed the output of that one sub with the same wattage or arent that far under it...someone else with more expirence will jump in i hope

**GuitarheadCA** · 08-16-2003 09:46 PM

yeah airplay, I'll jump in.

I've a/b'd the RTi150's with and without a sub, and let me tell you it makes a huge difference. yes, six six-inch drivers will have good output, but it can't go anywhere near as deep as the CHT12 or any other good sub.

tschep...
Velo for $250, Polk for $270, it's a win-win. Like mantis said, try to listen to both as much as possible, and then decide. YOU'RE the one that has to live with it. But they're both good options.

**Loud & Clear** · 08-16-2003 10:58 PM

I've a/b'd the RTi150's with and without a sub, and let me tell you it makes a huge difference. yes, six six-inch drivers will have good output, but it can't go anywhere near as deep as the CHT12 or any other good sub.

~~ What was used to drive the 150s?

**tschep20** · 08-16-2003 11:03 PM

thanks for the input so far, i know that i should listen to both and judge for myself, however i don't know where i can listen to the polk sub. we have the velodyne at work and it sounds great, i just can't compare directly right now. I just wanted to get some opinions and make sure that both are good and that whichever one i choose is a good buy.

**VR3** · 08-17-2003 12:54 AM

the RTi150 to have full bass impact need 400 watts of power to it.

300-400 watts...around there.

**GuitarheadCA** · 08-17-2003 02:43 AM

~~ What was used to drive the 150s?

HK AVR525

Yes, this is not a collection of 400 watt mono block amps
*however*
The amperage he could get for $250 applied to the speakers would NOT match the increase of bass he can get by adding a velody CHT12. Period.

the RTi150 to have full bass impact need 400 watts of power to it.

Hey sid - where have you heard the RTi150's with 400 watts of power? What foundation are you basing this claim on? And how much difference was there when you *did* hear a difference from a/bing the 400 watt amp with a 100x7 amp? I'm quite curious.

**Loud & Clear** · 08-17-2003 03:05 AM

It would make more sense to return the 150s and come home with 70s (use the cash recouped in the trade for the velo).

**GuitarheadCA** · 08-17-2003 03:09 AM

lol, I don't know if that was one of the options- but I agree as well;)

**tschep20** · 08-17-2003 03:27 AM

why would you recommend getting the 70s, btw i paid $344 each for the 150s and if i wanted to i could get the 70s for $160 each. why wouldn't i want to keep the 150s and get the sub also, best of both worlds no? or am i missing something?

**GuitarheadCA** · 08-17-2003 03:58 AM

Well, believe it or not, I actually prefer the sound of the 70's over the 150's independent of price. I think they have a more open midrange, and better imaging. But hey man, the RTi150's are still a great speaker and if you like em- keep em.

**Airplay355** · 08-17-2003 02:27 PM

wow those are great prices on the speakers, about half what i paid. oh well. I'm running my rti150s with a marantz sr7200 which is 105 wpc and the bass output from these speakers definetely matches subwoofers out there. but see we can get real technical in here and start talking about room gain. my room is only 12x15x8 so there is plenty of room gain, not to mention my speakers are in the corners of the room. for me? $250 could be spent better elsewhere, i dont think i would really notice that much of a difference with a sub. im not trying to step on anyones toes, this is just my situation.

i have this great idea though, why dont you buy the velo, listen to it for a few days and decide if you like it with your rti150s, if not return it. no biggie right? unless im missing something here.

i have run frequency sweeps in my room, and im not quite sure of the interval in the frequencies but based on what i hear when i play those, im fine with extension and spl, i dont need to be able to hit 10 hz in my room. just my thoughts. i think you should take home the velo and se how it sounds.

**Loud & Clear** · 08-17-2003 03:18 PM

Personally, the only scenario under which I'd be inclined to get into the 150s, is if I'd already had a couple NAD C270s (ex.) laying around and could provide the speaks with 300w (bridged) per side. At this point you'd have suitable spl, and with the speaks capable of hitting 26Hz -3, I'd forego a subwoofer and feel comfortable doing so.

Get the 150s if you're prepared to drive them with enough current to make you feel like you've got 2 subwoofers (which would probably sound better, more natural and coherent than trying to integrate a separate powered sub) in your theater, or don't get them at all, and instead get the 70s and the subwoofer of your choice.

Keep in mind that I've never heard the 150s and have no idea what it is that I'm saying.

**goingganzo** · 08-17-2003 07:42 PM

the ct 120 is a great sub i have one inmy closet when i usto use it it was great i was planning on getting a seccond till i saw what you can buld for the same price. and strykeforce was born.

**tschep20** · 08-17-2003 07:57 PM

thanks for everyone's input so far

i think i'm going to keep the 150s though because i think they sound excellent so far and i'm very happy with them. i only got them hooked up to my onkyo TXSR 500 receiver that i got with my old system and they are putting out some nice sound and power imo. in the future i plan on upgrading the receiver (i think i will get the Onkyo TXSR 800) and add an amp to power them.

second thing, can i get a vote from everyone on what sub you would choose if this were your system, the polk psw650 or the velodyne cht12

finally someone mentioned about the good prices, i can get these speakers at these prices because i work at an electronics store

**Airplay355** · 08-17-2003 08:16 PM

my vote is for the velo...i havent really heard nice things about polk subs...seems to be why more and more people are going with SVS

**VR3** · 08-17-2003 08:50 PM

The PSW650 will outplay the CHT 12 --

1 12 inch woof, vs. dual 10's. They have about equal exstention - I say Polk...believe it or not

**GuitarheadCA** · 08-17-2003 10:16 PM

can you get other velo subs through employee accommodation? I know a while back I did w/ circuit city. If you can, definately look into the SPL or HGS series.

**VR3** · 08-17-2003 11:10 PM

I say HGS, if you most go Velo. I have the HGS series, and they are awesome sounding little cubes!

**Loud & Clear** · 08-18-2003 01:17 AM

Agree with Trey, those little HGS servo'd cubes really do a number, all the way down to 200Hz -3db with only 30% distortion! Only Bose can put out a better subwoofer performance ... I believe that's why they call Bose, "the bass authority (TM.)"

**rs159** · 08-18-2003 01:28 AM

Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
... I have the HGS series, ...

Was that supposed to be sarcastic?

**GuitarheadCA** · 08-18-2003 04:36 AM

Agree with Trey, those little HGS servo'd cubes really do a number, all the way down to 200Hz -3db with only 30% distortion! Only Bose can put out a better subwoofer performance ... I believe that's why they call Bose, "the bass authority (TM.)"

Loud and Clear: Care to clear this piece of nonesense Up? Sarcasm is one thing, but it's supposed to have SOME truth to it. This has none. Have you even heard the HGS in a proper demo?

**mantis** · 08-18-2003 07:22 AM

Agreed,
that was some nonsense not knowing anything of what your speaking of.Opnions are one thing but the HGS series of Velodyne all of them can hit to 20hz.They are some of the very best subs on the market.Not many sub's can hit like the HGS play as clear and tight as the HGS and be completely musical as the HGS.Properly setup and they just dissapear into the room.

If your going to beat on a Product as GuitarheadCa pointing out Bro,have some facts in there would yeah......

Velodyne......what others are judged by.

Just a bit of info here.........Velodyne is my second choice for my personal theater.Could be my first.......very close.

**GuitarheadCA** · 08-18-2003 02:07 PM

Just a bit of info here.........Velodyne is my second choice for my personal theater.Could be my first.......very close.

Whoah Dan - Something comes close to REL? Didn't think I'd ever hear that. ;)

Thread: opinion on velodyne sub

Thread Tools

opinion on velodyne sub

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

Posting Permissions