SHM-SACD list for May

[F1nut]

Including two that I'm VERY excited about.

T. Rex: Electric Warrior

Steely Dan: The Royal Scam

Rolling Stones: Sticky Fingers

The Who: The Singles

Stevie Wonder: Innervisions

[Danny Tse]

Time to sell off some excess SACD titles for some of these

[F1nut]

I just saw the song list for The Who: The Singles. Make that 3 that I'm VERY excited about.

[vc69]

Gonna have to get the same three. That's gonna leave a mark on my budget.

[F1nut]

I'm surprised at the lack of interest here over these titles.

[Keiko]

I'm surprised at the lack of interest here over these titles.

I'm very interested in the Steely Dan. Be nice if they released that entire catalog on SACD.

[F1nut]

I've been waiting for Sticky Fingers to come out on SACD since 2002. I so effing excited I can hardly contain myself.
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Mike, it's been rumored that the entire SD catalog was mastered for SACD a long time ago, so I expect to see more soon.

[Danny Tse]

The Who and Steely Dan are at the top of my list

[TNRabbit]

Jesse, do you have any SHM SACDs? I bought two Donald Fagen SHM discs (Redbook) and was not impressed.

[Keiko]

I've been waiting for Sticky Fingers to come out on SACD since 2002. I so effing excited I can hardly contain myself.
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Mike, it's been rumored that the entire SD catalog was mastered for SACD a long time ago, so I expect to see more soon.

Outstanding!

Rabbit, The one SHM SACD I have of Aja is excellent. I have Rush, Hold Your Fire on SHM Redbook and it's very good as well. There's a discussion thread somewhere suggesting after several playbacks, the SHM CDs improve, sonically.

Edit: Here it is.

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108128

[phipiper10]

Regarding these releases do they all generally have 2.0 and 5.1 on the SACD layer? I'd only be utilizing the 2 channel.

[F1nut]

They are strictly 2 channel SACD, no CD layer, no 5.1.

[dorokusai]

Great thread Jesse, sorry I missed the first round.

[mdaudioguy]

Since I have no intention of regularly having to get up and actually put discs in a player... I was curious if the same sonic benefits can be captured by (losslessly, of course) ripping one of these SHM discs. I much prefer playing back my digital collection via Squeezebox. Anybody tried this?

[ben62670]

There are some real good 24/96 and 24/192 downloads out there. I am not spending $70 for an SACD when you can get the HiRez download for $20-$30 It's too bad SACD didn't take off.

[F1nut]

Since I have no intention of regularly having to get up and actually put discs in a player... I was curious if the same sonic benefits can be captured by (losslessly, of course) ripping one of these SHM discs. I much prefer playing back my digital collection via Squeezebox. Anybody tried this?

These are SHM-SACD discs, not SHM-CD's. Therefore, you cannot rip them.

[F1nut]

There are some real good 24/96 and 24/192 downloads out there. I am not spending $70 for an SACD when you can get the HiRez download for $20-$30 It's too bad SACD didn't take off.

They are $50.00, not $70.00 and unless you've heard one I don't see how you can compare them to a download. Didn't take off? Sorry, SACD is alive and well.

[Keiko]

These are SHM-SACD discs, not SHM-CD's. Therefore, you cannot rip them.

I can.

[F1nut]

I didn't know that was possible, Mike.

[ben62670]

OK even at $50 they are screwing us. It only cost a little more to make an SACD over the price of a CD. I understand they have to re-master them, but they are sinking themselves. I have a small SACD collection, and a modded Denon 2900 player. I also have a nice DAC that does 24/192 for the downloads. Have you heard the 24/192 downloads on a good DAC? BTW if SACD is doind so well why can't you find them locally, and why are they OOP so often?

[Keiko]

I didn't know that was possible, Mike.

Traditionally speaking, it's not, Jess. What I did with Aja is record it in real time onto my Mac Book's HD, 96kHz/24bit. I cut the files into separate tracks and burned to DVD. An experiment, more or less, but the result was very good. I sent a few copies to some members for feedback, all agreed the sound quality was good.

[F1nut]

OK even at $50 they are screwing us.

They are not screwing anyone. The product (disc, sleeves, artwork, container and even the outer plastic bag) is absolutely first class. IMO, someone paying $20-$30 for a download is the one getting screwed. You don't own it really, you can't sell it and you can't hold it.

Have you heard the 24/192 downloads on a good DAC?

I don't know for sure. I've heard downloads thru good DAC's, but I'm not sure of their resolution. Besides, I wasn't the one making that comparision.

BTW if SACD is doind so well why can't you find them locally, and why are they OOP so often?

Can you buy a download at a local store? Can you even find a CD at a local store anymore? Non-issue.

http://www.sa-cd.net/home lists places to buy SACD's online.

[F1nut]

Ok Mike, so then it's PCM and not DSD. Got ya.

[Keiko]

Ok Mike, so then it's PCM and not DSD. Got ya.

Yeah, no way of ripping DSD, as far as I know. What kills me about the RIAA and the whole anti-piracy thing is if CDs were mastered using SACD technology, piracy in this area would be a non issue.

I'm compelled to agree with Jesse on his points also, Ben. Spending 50.00 on one of these SACDs is a worthwhile investment, IMO, vs 30.00 for an intangible download. Sure, it's pricier than your standard 10.00 rebook, but you get what you pay for. These SHM-SACDs are definitely first class.

[ben62670]

That's the nice thing about the download. I back it up and I have it. On a SACD disk you have one copy. If something happens to it it is gone. It is on the Hard drives. Mike have you heard the 24/192 downloads on a 24/192 DAC? I wish SACD took off, but it really hasn't. If it was doing so good why would there be so many threads about when a new SACD comes out? Even the 24/96 downloads are 4 times the resolution of Cd's(nearly the same as SACD). Those are only $20.

[F1nut]

You still don't own it, can't sell it or hold it and look at it. In all the years I've been buying CD's and SACD's, I can't think of one bad thing happening. Although, I have read of folks losing their entire music collection when their hard drive crashed.

There are over 7000 SACD's on the market with more coming out every day. I really don't know why you keep saying it hasn't taken off. Is it mainstream? No, but neither are hi-rez downloads.

Why new threads? Because it's exciting stuff. On the other hand, I don't recall seeing any threads about a new hi-rez download on here. Speaking of which, the record industry recently stated that they are aware of the fact that downloads in general have not taken off like they had hoped and in fact, have peaked. I would also venture to say that true hi-rez 24/192 downloads are fewer in number than SACD's.

I'll also add that having a SACD/CD player that upsamples Redbook to 24/192 pretty much makes any advantage to a 24/192 download a wash.

[Keiko]

SACD is a niche market and thankfully, still around. I think what it all comes down to is a preference. Some prefer downloading, while others prefer something more tangible. Some are even content d/l lossy formats. I've heard of these hi-rez downloads and by no means am I knocking it. I'm the type of person that simply likes holding the disc, case and liner notes in my hands. Damn me for admitting this, but at the end of the day, I'll take a good ol' piece of vinyl over any of these formats any day. It's all about personal preference. That's all.

[F1nut]

LOL...you're hopeless Mike, but I still love ya bro.

[Keiko]

Can't help myself, Jess. I love spinning my records. I love the sound of vinyl. Everything else is just a convenience.

[ben62670]

That is why you back up your music if you have it on a hard-drive. Super simple. Your a fool if you don't back it up. Also I can up-sample Cd's to 24/192. You are correct about the 24/192 downloads being less available than SACD's, but the 24/96 is the equivalent of SACD's. The 24/192 is what is used for the digital masters. As far as owning it... yes I own it if I download it, but I don't have it to sell like an SACD, but to be totally realistic how many SACD's or Cd's have I sold? None in the last 10 years. It was you F1nut that told me to use my ears and not what I have read. I am totally convinced that the 24/96 downloads sound just as good as the SACD's, and are much more convenient. Also my puter is setup for video out. I see all the album covers on the screen when selecting my music from the listening area. Most have the Jewel case cover, the insides, and back. To each his own. I just recommend people give it a try before they knock it.