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    Quote Originally Posted by byfthalone View Post
    have you ever tried Endomondo and if so how do they compare?
    No, so no idea. I picked up the mapmyride app for my phone for 6 bucks, so I just use that. I don't even pay that much attention, and don't even usually remember to turn it on. I focus on my HR data off my cycling computer. I know I can buy and ant+ adapter, speed and cadence sensors, hr monitor, etc. for my phone, but... nah. When I upgrade this stuff, it'll likely be to an Quarq crank power sensor.
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    Yesterday, 31 miles in about 1:45, hair less than 2000 calories in another group ride. Today and tomorrow will probably be easy days. Starting to feel it a bit in my legs.
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    My right knee is bothering me. What should I do?

    Ace Bandage while riding?

    Ice compress after riding?

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    Sal,

    Do you warm up and stretch before you get on the glider? If not, you should. Also, how many consecutive days have you been on it? Rest is important too. Repetitive motion injuries are fairly common and you're not 25 anymore. I'd give yourself a day's rest and ice up and then bandage for a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cnh View Post
    Sal,

    Do you warm up and stretch before you get on the glider? If not, you should. Also, how many consecutive days have you been on it? Rest is important too. Repetitive motion injuries are fairly common and you're not 25 anymore. I'd give yourself a day's rest and ice up and then bandage for a bit.

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    I'm on it usually around 4 days a week. At least 7 miles and up to 12 per time.

    I never stretch.

    I guess I can go to Sports Authority for the bandage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lasareath View Post
    I'm on it usually around 4 days a week. At least 7 miles and up to 12 per time.

    I never stretch.

    I guess I can go to Sports Authority for the bandage?

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    Go see your doctor. This is especially true if the pain is a burning/tearing sensation. That indicates tendonitis, which is one of the most common over-use injuries. If that's what it is, you'll need to restrict your activities for 2-3 weeks, then slowly work back up. You'll probably also need to take a prescription anti-inflamatory to help the knee heal. Continuing to exercise will be the worst thing you can do.

    As far as stretching, that would only be indicated if this was pain in a muscule. Pain is a joint is generally some type of over-use, assuming you haven't banged it or bent it the wrong way.
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    Good advice there. But remember, most Doctors are not sports physicians so chances are they might not diagnose you properly. Another thing to ask about is if you might have some minor arthritic condition...at my age, if you've been active for a while, your knees WILL bother you and very little mentioned above will solve that problem. But any Doctor can tell you what you should do about that. Although so far, they don't really understand the biology of this that well...a LOT more work needs to be done as us baby-boomers continue to 'age'! And for the rest of you...don't worry...you'll get there 'sooner' than you think.

    Sleep well, eat well, rest well and move well and even a little arthritis won't stymie you...but please do check with your physician if the problem persists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quadzilla View Post
    Go see your doctor. This is especially true if the pain is a burning/tearing sensation. That indicates tendonitis, which is one of the most common over-use injuries. If that's what it is, you'll need to restrict your activities for 2-3 weeks, then slowly work back up. You'll probably also need to take a prescription anti-inflamatory to help the knee heal. Continuing to exercise will be the worst thing you can do.

    As far as stretching, that would only be indicated if this was pain in a muscule. Pain is a joint is generally some type of over-use, assuming you haven't banged it or bent it the wrong way.
    Quote Originally Posted by cnh View Post
    Good advice there. But remember, most Doctors are not sports physicians so chances are they might not diagnose you properly. Another thing to ask about is if you might have some minor arthritic condition...at my age, if you've been active for a while, your knees WILL bother you and very little mentioned above will solve that problem. But any Doctor can tell you what you should do about that. Although so far, they don't really understand the biology of this that well...a LOT more work needs to be done as us baby-boomers continue to 'age'! And for the rest of you...don't worry...you'll get there 'sooner' than you think.

    Sleep well, eat well, rest well and move well and even a little arthritis won't stymie you...but please do check with your physician if the problem persists.

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    When I was 135lbs heavier this knee would bother me all the time. after i walked only two blocks it would bother me.

    Even when I was skinny and 17 years old and I did a lot of weight lifting this knee would bother me.

    My mother and her side of the family all have knee problems. I guess I inherited it.

    usually if I rest for 2 to 3 days then it is fine and does not bother me. But sometimes I workout 2 or 3 days in a row and by the 3rd day it bothers me.

    if I stand on it and I extend my leg fully then there is pain. It is not swollen at all but it feels like I banged it. Maybe I did. my knee lines up perfectly with this section of my new bike that seems to be in my way a bit.

    If i am sitting and I do a leg extension then there is a little pop in the leg when I fully extend my right leg.
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    Or just plain arthritis. But again, I'd see a doctor. They can usually diagnose common types of pain pretty well, or will refer you if they aren't sure. And if it is arthritis, certain types indicate an autoimmue disorder. Again, my advice is see a doctor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quadzilla View Post
    Or just plain arthritis. But again, I'd see a doctor. They can usually diagnose common types of pain pretty well, or will refer you if they aren't sure. And if it is arthritis, certain types indicate an autoimmue disorder. Again, my advice is see a doctor.
    A general practioner or somebody who specializes in arthritis?

    I guess I might have to a referal from my regular doctor first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lasareath View Post
    A general practioner or somebody who specializes in arthritis?

    I guess I might have to a referal from my regular doctor first.
    Depends on your insurance, I guess. I have to get referals. If you're not on an HMO, you can probably just go to someone who specializes in sports injuries.
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    I just started doing sone of those stretches and I noticed a black/blue mark directly above the knee cap. Maybe I did hit it. Not sure.
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    I rode yesterday only about 4 miles and today I have no pain at all with my right knee.
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    Short ride yesterday. 12 miles, very easy pace, barely broke a sweat. Haven't pulled the data from the computer yet, so no idea what average, etc.
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    Oh yea. I showed my uncle the new bike and he said my problem is that my feet tend bow out like a duck while I am riding. He said that I need to concentrate and keep my feet perfectly straight so that my knees don't bend weird.
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    no cages on the pedals?

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    I tried O'douls once. Hated it. Anyhow...

    Brewski-loving athletes will be very happy with news coming out of the American College of Sports Medicine?s annual meeting this week: Drinking beer (non-alcoholic was used in the study) may help ward off pesky infections that strenuous exercise often triggers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by byfthalone View Post
    no cages on the pedals?
    no pedals.

    There are platforms. It's an elliptical.

    two rides today, 15 miles total

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    29 miles today @ about an 18-20 average. Perfect day for a ride, too. Felt really good out there.
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    Been down for 8 days since my 7 mile run on Saturday a week ago. Newbie mistake: too far, too fast, too soon. Tendonitis on the middle left edge of my left foot. Improved greatly on Friday but I won't be running for another week or two (or three).

    Currently reading, Running for Mortals. It takes 3-6 weeks for your heart and lungs to adapt to running, 6-12 weeks for muscles, and 6-12 months for the skeletal system (bones, tendons). So there I was running and feeling good only to breakdown 2-3 hours after my run. Keep those numbers in mind if you decide to start running. You can't always listen to your body because it won't tell you until after you're hurt.

    Can't wait to go again. There's something carthartic about running but I'll need to cut back and go slower for 6 months (to the end of the year?). BTW, good book for beginners, especially those currently thinking about starting.

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    Sorry to hear about that. But I'm not surprised. Running, regardless of what current 'ideas' are about it...is a lot of stress on the skeletal system. As one 'ages', IMO, it is an exercise of 'second' resort. I don't even consider it safe anymore. And those time windows above do give you an indication of how long it takes to adapt.

    Everyone I know my age (50 something) who has been a life time runner has either had to switch to cycling or had a hip replacement. Which is hard to believe because we're not that 'old'? I also suspect that those adaptation figures DO NOT apply to a 20 something.

    A seven mile run, if done at a good speed is a LOT of stress on anyone past their mid-30s IMO. And unnecessary wear and tear on the body.

    On another note. I remember Marathon runners who have 'absolutely' NO upper body strength in an embarrassing sense--can't even do ONE good push up? Moderation in all things...as old as the Greeks?

    BTW even when I was able to run seven miles at a decent pace. I rarely did that and I think I only experienced a catharsis 'once' in all my runs. Most of the time on a normal 3 mile run I'd be thinking of when I could stop...it was a real chore for me. Even when I was running those miles at a seven and a half minute pace (which was phenomenal for me because I've always hated running so much--and that was in my late thirties).

    Today, running 'jars' the heck out of my body. Screws up my spine which is probably pre-arthritic, precipitates some sciatica, throws my neck out of wack, and gives me a sore knee after about two weeks. Nothing 'good' ever comes of it. Why do you think so many physicians recommend 'swimming' to us older boys and girls?

    Certainly get some rest and watch yourself.

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    Don't let it get you down. Make sure you take your anti-inflamitories. I'd expect after two weeks you can start at least doing some walking again. Did you see a Dr?

    Me, I did 24 miles @ a 17 average on a solo ride. Cruised down to a lake in Dallas, did a lap, and rode back home. After a few group rides, wanted to see how it felt to just be on the bike. It felt nice. And I burned another ~1700 calories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cnh View Post
    Sorry to hear about that. But I'm not surprised. Running, regardless of what current 'ideas' are about it...is a lot of stress on the skeletal system. As one 'ages', IMO, it is an exercise of 'second' resort. I don't even consider it safe anymore. And those time windows above do give you an indication of how long it takes to adapt...

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    Eventually, at some point, certain chapters in my life will come to a close because I'm physically unable to continue or I'm done with it. The goal is to be able to walk away the day I hang up my sneakers without hobbling with hip or knee replacement. I'm thinking, and I may be wrong, that in order to extend this sport for as long as possible while preventing longterm damage, I will need to stay above an 8 minute mile, keep my weight in check, stick with strength training, and keep the duration to about 40 minutes a day (http://www.npr.org/2011/03/28/134861...ill-your-knees ; of course, they could be wrong).

    I'm a distance junkie but I'll limit that to distance on a bike. I have a friend who was a long distance runner but now can't even sit straight without some discomfort from running 200 miles a week when he was my age so I've seen the aftermath first hand and my current injury has placed an exclamation mark on that warning.

    Thanks for the feedback. I hope our discourse does not discourage others from running or taking up running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quadzilla View Post
    Don't let it get you down. Make sure you take your anti-inflamitories. I'd expect after two weeks you can start at least doing some walking again. Did you see a Dr?

    Me, I did 24 miles @ a 17 average on a solo ride. Cruised down to a lake in Dallas, did a lap, and rode back home. After a few group rides, wanted to see how it felt to just be on the bike. It felt nice. And I burned another ~1700 calories.
    I'm not down, just restless. I feel like I'm stuck in detention during recess.

    I've been walking around the malls all weekend. I wanted to wait a week before seeing a doctor. My GP is useless. His general response is, "take 2 weeks off" but that's the limit of his running knowledge. I will go see one this week if I can manage the time just to have one as part of my support group.

    I like the group rides for the safety in number aspect but the solos are less draining to me (more freedom, no politics, no hurt feelings, no group rules, etc).

    17 average, nice.

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    I didn't ride at all today. Yesterday I had the weirdest experience. I snapped off 7 spokes on my rear wheel.

    I bought 10 new ones and put 7 on and went for a test ride and all seems OK.

    Today I cleaned the garage. Bulk Garbage day is at the end of this week in my town and it happens only once per year and I have alot of crap to get out.

    On a good note, I weighed in at 292 this morning. I was 310 on 5/4/11, so i've loat 18lbs in one month on my StreetStrider!!!

    On a bad note, this time last year I was 274 :(, yes I gained some weight over the winter. I need to lose another 18 to get back to the 274 and then I need to lose another 40 and I'll be the same weight I was when I was 21!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatchowmein View Post
    I'm not down, just restless. I feel like I'm stuck in detention during recess.

    I've been walking around the malls all weekend. I wanted to wait a week before seeing a doctor. My GP is useless. His general response is, "take 2 weeks off" but that's the limit of his running knowledge. I will go see one this week if I can manage the time just to have one as part of my support group.

    I like the group rides for the safety in number aspect but the solos are less draining to me (more freedom, no politics, no hurt feelings, no group rules, etc).

    17 average, nice.
    My GP is a runner, and has even done marathons, so she gets the sport thing. She's also really freaking smart and a great doctor. So you might think about switching GPs.

    But in your GPs defense, that sounds about right for tendonitis. I've had it before, and 2-3 weeks off, anti-inflamitories, and then start building back up to the previous workout levels over 1-2 months is about right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lasareath View Post
    I didn't ride at all today. Yesterday I had the weirdest experience. I snapped off 7 spokes on my rear wheel.

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    I don't know about your elliptical bike, but when I break spokes on my bike, it's usually due to the spoke tension being off in some spokes. You might want to take the wheel to a bike shop and have them check that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quadzilla View Post
    My GP is a runner, and has even done marathons, so she gets the sport thing. She's also really freaking smart and a great doctor. So you might think about switching GPs.

    But in your GPs defense, that sounds about right for tendonitis. I've had it before, and 2-3 weeks off, anti-inflamitories, and then start building back up to the previous workout levels over 1-2 months is about right.
    Hey, if you don't mind, please PM me your GP's name and hopefully she's somewhere near work in Plano and covered under my insurance. As for my GP, if I have a slight tightness, it's two weeks off. "Hey doc, I have [insert condition] in my [insert location]." Response: "Take 2 weeks off." Save myself time and a copay by just taking 2 weeks off and coming in later if needed but I'm sure he'll say, "Take 2 weeks off" again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quadzilla View Post
    I don't know about your elliptical bike, but when I break spokes on my bike, it's usually due to the spoke tension being off in some spokes. You might want to take the wheel to a bike shop and have them check that.

    That's what i was told by the inventor of my bike. I bought a spoke wrench and checked them all, and they are all evenly secured now.

    He said that since the bike is new that I should have been checking the spokes regularly because they may loosen over time while riding. I'll need to add that task to my weekly tune-up.
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