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    Default Sub to mate with ML Aeons - Suggestions Please

    Hey guys,

    I have a pair of ML Aeons in the living room at the moment. They belong to a friend of mine, so these will not be around in my rig forever. He and I have been thinking it might be nice to add a bit more bottom end. We are not looking for HT slam. We are interested in a musical and fast sub that will integrate well with the panels. The Aeons have 8 inch cones that supposedly go down to 40hz but I am skeptical. It will need to be self powered.

    So far, the JL subs look interesting but neither of us have any experience with subs for a music only application. Budget is around $1k.

    Any suggestions?
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    Rel subs are pretty musical. Stay away from the cheaper HT subs, those ML's need a quick,musical sub. Revel is my other favorite, can't speak much for the Epiks,SVS's of the world so maybe someone will chime in with an opinion.

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    The polk Micropro 4000, is outstanding, and the piano black finish looks great.
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    The new Epik's are very nice with their sealed designs. Check out www.epiksubwoofers.com. I run 2 of their older ported designs in my home theater and I love them. Built like tanks and priced well to boot! I think a Single Empire would do the trick. $799

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    Thanks Tony. I will look into the Rel.

    I should mention that I would most definitely prefer a sealed enclosure.
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    I tend to shy away from Epik and SVS when dealing with music. With my own experience with Epik's ported subs, they're not the most musical sub out there. The same goes for SVS. Those subs are heavily inclined toward an HT direction. I have no experience with the Empire so I can't really comment on it. I likewise do prefer a sealed design for music.

    If you're looking for control, tightness, and a sealed design, look at Rythmik's offerings or Seaton's offering. Servo subs have a great tightness to them.

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    Why not just buy a Martin logan dynamo 1000 12 inch sub for 1k

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    Quote Originally Posted by polkfarmboy View Post
    Why not just buy a Martin logan dynamo 1000 12 inch sub for 1k
    Looking at the ML subs, they are on the short list.
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    I'm biased...Velodyne. I couldn't ask for better than my twin SPL-1200R's.
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    Look at the servo sub line up from Rythmik Audio. You want tight, fast, stop on a dime, musical. They imo one of the goto subs for music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pearsall001 View Post
    I'm biased...Velodyne. I couldn't ask for better than my twin SPL-1200R's.
    You can do better for the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinjuku View Post
    You can do better for the money.
    Your words of wisdom are are duly noted...now take a hike you putz.
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    Vandersteen 2wq or the V2w is pretty awesome too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pearsall001 View Post
    Your words of wisdom are are duly noted...now take a hike you putz.
    Sorry if the truth hurts. Now if you can get Velo at a great price then that changes things. Given outfits like SVS/HSU/Rhythmik/Funky Waves the Velo at their retail price points don't stand toe to toe.

    Feel free to have a conversation on the merits. I may be a putz but then again I'm not the one who took a reaming on some Velo's

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    Quote Originally Posted by jinjuku View Post
    Sorry if the truth hurts. Now if you can get Velo at a great price then that changes things. Given outfits like SVS/HSU/Rhythmik/Funky Waves the Velo at their retail price points don't stand toe to toe.

    Feel free to have a conversation on the merits. I may be a putz but then again I'm not the one who took a reaming on some Velo's
    Man, this just keeps getting better! First off you don't have a clue what I paid for them (a close friend is a dealer :tongue:) Second, I've been down the road with SVS...thanks but no thanks. Third, your opinion is just that, an opinion. I'll stick with mine because that's the only one that matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pearsall001 View Post
    Man, this just keeps getting better! First off you don't have a clue what I paid for them (a close friend is a dealer :tongue:) Second, I've been down the road with SVS...thanks but no thanks. Third, your opinion is just that, an opinion. I'll stick with mine because that's the only one that matters.
    I believe I qualified my statement. I said at their retail price points. Now if your buddy is willing to give the OP some Velo's at cost then we are talking about a different horse all together.

    Lets take the OP's main points:

    1. Budget of ~$1k
    2. Musical sub

    Lets compare the Velo Optimum 8 and the Rythmik Audio F15HP with 550WRMS H550PEQ amp.

    I have had a Velo DD12 and SVS PV13 Ultra in the same room for HT. IMO the SVS did better plus it was less expensive by a considerable margin.
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    I am not at all interested in an HT sub. They are a horse of a different color IMO.

    I am researching subs with fast, tight bass extension with a musical upper mid-bass and the ability to taylor the x-over for maximum integration with the Aeons. No offense the Velo/SVS crowd but they aren't even on the radar.

    Vandy sub is interesting, but I am a little wary. I am still looking for opinions/suggestions from anyone who has integrated a sub with panels. Maggies, MLs.... whatever.

    Thanks!

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    Another vote for Velo's SPL series subs. Very tight and musical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vc69 View Post
    I am not at all interested in an HT sub. They are a horse of a different color IMO.

    I am researching subs with fast, tight bass extension with a musical upper mid-bass and the ability to taylor the x-over for maximum integration with the Aeons. No offense the Velo/SVS crowd but they aren't even on the radar.

    Vandy sub is interesting, but I am a little wary. I am still looking for opinions/suggestions from anyone who has integrated a sub with panels. Maggies, MLs.... whatever.

    Thanks!
    I agree for what you listed I wouldn't look at SVS or Velo either. Not sure if you're resistant to Rythmik Audio or not but it would be a mistake to not put them into consideration. Given your budget you don't have all the options in the world available to you.

    Integrating a sub with ElectroStats is going to be pretty much the same with any other style of speaker. What are you worried about mainly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vc69 View Post
    Awesome. Did you find one used that fit your budget?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vc69 View Post
    A friend of mine has a pair of F113's, they sound fantastic for music or HT.
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    I've a pair of F112's I use with my Spires and your in for a treat!! There is a very good setup procedure in the owners manual and I'd suggest giving it a try. While JL can be used for HT, it really does shine with music only!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vc69 View Post
    And you found a JL sub in your 1K budget?

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    If he did, someone call the cops! Somebody got robbed!

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    A Jl Audio Fathom F110 just sold on Audiogon for $900 last week.

    I don't think you will have any problems integrating a JL with your ML's. I added an Anti-mode 8033 to my Fathom and it further dialed it in.

    I think you'll be happy with the sub. Hard not to, it does a lot of things right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leroyjr1 View Post
    And you found a JL sub in your 1K budget?
    No, unfortunately. It was a bit pricey but quite reasonable as JL subs go. My friend paid 1.3K shipped.

    Hawkeye, I may shoot you a PM after it arrives and I have had some time to play with it so as to compare notes.
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    Im looking forward to your thoughts. I just recieved my Vanderboomer a few weeks ago and just finally got it set up and tuned. My rig has went to another level, im floored!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vc69 View Post
    No, unfortunately. It was a bit pricey but quite reasonable as JL subs go. My friend paid 1.3K shipped.

    Hawkeye, I may shoot you a PM after it arrives and I have had some time to play with it so as to compare notes.
    Feel free!! I have a couple tweaks and possible suggestions for setup. The JL is quite versatile and small adjustments make big gains. Have fun and don't get frustrated I have MANY hours invested in setting mine up and perhaps I can help in a small way!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayman_1975 View Post
    Im looking forward to your thoughts. I just recieved my Vanderboomer a few weeks ago and just finally got it set up and tuned. My rig has went to another level, im floored!
    I considered the boomers with my 2CE's but my son claimed the speaks before I had the chance to incorporate them. I think it would have been a nice presentation. I wonder if I could get them back.....doubt it!!

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