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Hello,
This is a photo of a classic Linn LP12 with Linn Ittok LVII tonearm and Shure cartridge I worked on. I installed the cartridge and made some measurements and did a general cleanup, removed some scratches on the dust cover and got rid of some mars on the base. Sounds very good!
Enjoy, Ken
Since I had two different turntables and tonearms both mounted with the same model Shure M97xE cartridges I could make some measurements with my Ortofon analyzer. I believe this shows how the tonearm can effect the performance of the cartridge. The output on the Thorens was 3.4mV (left) and 3.4mV (right), the Linn was 3.7mV (left) and 3.5mV (right), channel balance was 0.1dB Thorens and 0.5dB Linn. Channel separation was 29.1dB left minus right and 18.2dB right minus left for the Thorens and 22.0dB left minus right and 23.7dB right minus left for the Linn. This difference would affect the soundstage presentation, I believe. Both setups showed no vertical resonance with the Shure stabilizer in operation, and 8Hz lateral resonance for the Thorens and 7Hz for the Linn, being a slightly more massive tonearm. The biggest difference is the frequency response, with the Thorens having a moderate peak at 15khz and the Linn being within 2.0dB from 1Hz to 20kHz attributable to the tonearm wiring and connecting cable. But the final quality of the frequency response will be determined, a great deal, on the loading each owner will use with their respective turntables.
I noticed the Linn played slightly faster at 33.5rpm instead of 33.3rpm (adjustable) on the Thorens, which might support a theory of mine that some turntables sound more "involving" because they are playing slightly faster, pitching everything slightly higher. As I said, just a theory.
Last edited by Kenneth Swauger; 02-14-2013 at 12:19 PM.
Greetings Ken. Nice LP12. Some folks claimed that speed thing about Rega tables too.
I had an LP12 for a spell. I even made a stand for servicing it. Felt lined clamps secured the table to the stand; much better than chairs stood back to back. I was in the 69K serial range which saw many improvements over the table when it was first released. The LP12 presentation changed throughout its life with factory improvements/upgrades, with owners clinging to earlier or later versions for the sound qualities.
The Silver Ittock LV II had sapphire bearings that were sensitive to rough handling damage. Linn had suggested removing the arm to tighten cartridge screws. A five pin DIN plugged into the base of arm. IC was a nice shielded coax with nicely designed shield strain relief interconnects I've yet to source. Simply turning the three suspension springs to different clock positions can cause the suspension to work smoothly or bind. I picked up on that trick from someone at pinkfish. The speed on my LP12 was adjustable. You turned screws which tilted the motor that caused the flat belt to ride in a different location on the barrel shaped drive pulley.
After the LP12 table I went with a Nottingham Space Deck that I fitted with various arms. It was dead on at 33.3. When I got the heavy platter (20 pounds IIRC) Nottingham Space 294, that table ran at the high end of the RIAA speed limit which forced me into a speed controller for it. That table sounded its best with a Moerch DP6. Now I am Lenco idler drive with linear tracking air bearing arm and loving it.
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Last edited by SCompRacer; 02-14-2013 at 01:06 PM.
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InnerSound Mk II Active Crossover Bass Amp
Krell KSA-250 Amp (Panels)
Krell KSL Pre w/ KSL Phono
Squeezebox Touch / Welborne Labs PS / I2S Out Mod
Denon 3910 I2S/DSD Out Mod
Twisted Pear Buffalo III Dual Mono ESS Sabre32 DAC
Heavy Plinth Lenco L75 Idler Drive
AA MG-1 Linear Air Bearing Arm
Dynavector 17D3
Shunyata Hydra (Original)
GIK Acoustic Treatments
CP Showcase
Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
Ofc: Wright WLA12 preamp: Anthem Amp 1: Pio Elite DV-79AVI: Airport Express: CAL Sigma II DAC: PA LS90 sonicaps and mills
Theater Room: Pioneer Elite SC-35, RTi12's, Csi5, Fxi3's, ED A5-350 sub, Optoma HD20, 92'' Elite Screen, Sony BDPS790, Xbox 360, APC H15, MIT Exp 2 SC's, Pepster PC's
Living Room: Zu Audio Omens (Druid mkiv08 drivers, tweeters and KimberKaps), NAD C-326, Arcam rLink dac, Zu Mission SC's, Pepster PC's & IC's, Sharp Aquos 60'', AEX
Bedroom: Panasonic AX200U projector, 110" screen
Outdoor: Polk Atrium 5's, Yamaha Rxv371
Before the Vista came along
kitteh looks a tad surprised by the flash photography...
all the best,
mrh
2-channel
Sources: Pro-ject 2.9 wood with Grado Gold cartridge; Squeezebox Duet; Oppo BDP-83
Amplification: PS Audio GCPH; PS Audio DLIII(Cullen mods IV); Parasound Halo P3; B & K Reference 200.2
Speakers: Polk - LSi15's(db sub mod)
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Amplification: Sony - STR-DG1000; Outlaw 200 Mono; Speakers: Polk - CS2, Monitor 70's, RC80i's; Video: Optoma HD20; FAVI HD-100
Work desk rig: Audioengine A2's; Jolida Glass FX DAC Mini
Two ch setup:
Family Room HT 7.1: Pioneer Elite VSX 81TX Pioneer BDP 320 Pioneer Elite DV 45A Pioneer Elite MD53 SlimDevice Transporter
Living room 2ch: Integra 2.1 Technic EQ MKII Squeezebox Touch Fluance SX Speakers
Upstaris media room: Pioneer VSX D510 Pioneer BDP 120 Pioneer MD802 Squeezebox Classic 3 Polkaudio speakers T15 fronts CSR Center PSW10 Sub
Master bedroom: Pioneer VSX 520 Pioneer BDP 120 Squeezebox Classic 3 Optimus LX5 fronts
Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
Ofc: Wright WLA12 preamp: Anthem Amp 1: Pio Elite DV-79AVI: Airport Express: CAL Sigma II DAC: PA LS90 sonicaps and mills
Butt naked anthem mca5 with its dual power supply 1 for mains and the other for center and rears
Parasound2100 with da Hood off.
Touch with custom VU meters
Family Room HT 7.1: Pioneer Elite VSX 81TX Pioneer BDP 320 Pioneer Elite DV 45A Pioneer Elite MD53 SlimDevice Transporter
Living room 2ch: Integra 2.1 Technic EQ MKII Squeezebox Touch Fluance SX Speakers
Upstaris media room: Pioneer VSX D510 Pioneer BDP 120 Pioneer MD802 Squeezebox Classic 3 Polkaudio speakers T15 fronts CSR Center PSW10 Sub
Master bedroom: Pioneer VSX 520 Pioneer BDP 120 Squeezebox Classic 3 Optimus LX5 fronts
great pics all keep them comming i need the ideals to steal! lol
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The SL1200 is a very nice TT with lots of mods available to make it even better if one chooses to do so.
Technics/Pioneer has never been known for making good home audio speakers for the US market (car audio is a different story). In the past some of their electronics were pretty good but their speakers never really were of the same quality IMO. I have heard that there are some decent models for the Asian markets that never made it here.
"Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais
"For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase
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All true. Pioneer's top end TAD drivers and (perhaps?) speaker systems are available in the US and are very (very) good.
I have to put in a plug for some US designed(?), US made Pioneer speakers that happened to wander in to my life many years ago. They're Pioneer Project 100 three ways; ported monkey coffins with the funky juxtaposition of a cone tweeter and dome MR. These very modest speakers sound remarkably better than the stereotypical Pioneer "Kabuki" speaker systems.
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all the best,
mrh
Pioneer HPM series speakers were pretty good. I'm not sure if they were sold in the U.S. market though.
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Polk CSiA6 Center
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