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    What volume do you guys normally listen to your music, Im usually between 9,oclock and 10,
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    I usually play it at about 1/3 up to 1/2 on the dial between the hours of 7-11pm most nights.
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    My volume knob just keeps turning!!

    But I usually settle for anywhere between -20 to -5. -2 to 0 are for showing off... and even THAT'S too loud.

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    Position of the dial or db displayed will be different on every system for any given volume.

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    using SPL meter I prefer 85-87db
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    I think 85-90db is good for someone with good (normal) hearing.
    I tend to run at 95-100 due to spending much of 10 years at the soundboard of a band and also going to about a thousand live shows without ear protection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamM2 View Post
    Position of the dial or db displayed will be different on every system for any given volume.
    Well, not if you calibrate to reference level with an SPL meter so 0 = 105dB/115dB LFE.

    My normal listening level is about -15dB, which means peaks of 90dB from the main channels and 100dB from the LFE channel. But sometimes, that gets bumped up a bit if I'm showing off a good action flick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesurfer View Post
    What volume do you guys normally listen to your music, Im usually between 9,oclock and 10,
    That level means absolutely nothing to anyone else. Generally, for dedicated listening at a distance of approximately 8 feet from speakers I keep it in the 70+db range, with dips into the 60s and peaks into the 80s. Once you consistently get into the 80s and higher you have lost the ability to have a conversation without shouting.

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    Hay surfer,in one of my threads you said you enjoy insulting people from your front porch.You should keep the volume down so they can hear you.Dan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldfatdogs View Post
    Hay surfer,in one of my threads you said you enjoy insulting people from your front porch.You should keep the volume down so they can hear you.Dan
    Yes Dan, im always sure to have it low when im out front talking smack, wouldnt want anyone to miss any of my clever comebacks,
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    I just got a hd tv calibration disk today to calibrate my projector. I've read here and everywhere about these numbers spl an such. Where do you recommend I start researching this stuff as I want to calibrate my audio setup if it is in my budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    That level means absolutely nothing to anyone else. Generally, for dedicated listening at a distance of approximately 8 feet from speakers I keep it in the 70+db range, with dips into the 60s and peaks into the 80s. Once you consistently get into the 80s and higher you have lost the ability to have a conversation without shouting.
    Conversation? I'm anti-social when i am "listening" to music.If i'm having a conversation then the music is just background fluff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuntasensei View Post
    Well, not if you calibrate to reference level with an SPL meter so 0 = 105dB/115dB LFE.

    My normal listening level is about -15dB, which means peaks of 90dB from the main channels and 100dB from the LFE channel. But sometimes, that gets bumped up a bit if I'm showing off a good action flick.

    While that would make them the same level at 0 db, they would still differ at any other setting including -15 db. Different rooms, speaker efficiencies, amp gain, etc.

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    normally, i listen at 9 o clock on the dial...sometimes 930 is fun...just got done listening for an hour @ 10! sounds so fkn good, you gotta remind yourself it's pretty loud! my ears feel almost like getting out of a concert..it really is a 'right there' experience...good to know the only thing holding me back, is me;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuntasensei View Post
    Well, not if you calibrate to reference level with an SPL meter so 0 = 105dB/115dB LFE.
    Can't do that on my 2 channel rigs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F1nut View Post
    Can't do that on my 2 channel rigs.
    yep.

    mid 80's to low 90db's for me, when I'm really listening.
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    Loud, effin' loud, or a level that makes me yell "WHAT DID YOU SAY?" at everyone for 3 days after a session.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe08867 View Post
    I usually play it at about 1/3 up to 1/2 on the dial between the hours of 7-11pm most nights.
    Same here, when I'm in the mood however, the rule is never above 1/2 otherwise its time to replace the amp!

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    That level means absolutely nothing to anyone else. Generally, for dedicated listening at a distance of approximately 8 feet from speakers I keep it in the 70+db range, with dips into the 60s and peaks into the 80s. Once you consistently get into the 80s and higher you have lost the ability to have a conversation without shouting.
    During serious music listening I don't care for conversation. Back ground music is ok during social gathering but I tend to avoid as it often gets me in trouble (tend to focus on the music ratter than conversation). Sure, go db rating, very fancy and cool tecky talk but means d***k unless we are all using same amp, same room environment and we all have equal hearing. I still wonder how accurate the db rating is on the dial (of most gear) anyway...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TECHNOKID View Post
    ...Sure, go db rating, very fancy and cool tecky talk but means d***k unless we are all using same amp, same room environment and we all have equal hearing. I still wonder how accurate the db rating is on the dial (of most gear) anyway...
    Huh? I think most of us who cited db levels were referring to measured levels with an SPL meter.

    Oh, and you put too many letters in "dick".
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    Quote Originally Posted by falconcry72 View Post
    Huh? I think most of us who cited db levels were referring to measured levels with an SPL meter.
    Exactly. 70db is 70db irrespective of the room, the amp, whatever. Also, unless you are a hermit, at some point you will be asked a question and need to answer. If you are in to 80, 90, 100+ db range you will either have to turn the music down, or shout. WHAT DID YOU SAY DEAR? TURN THE MUSIC DOWN A$$HOLE.

    The db number on a dial means nothing. Some even go to 11.

    Apparently some people know d!(k about sound.

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    spl level around 65 to 70 db peaks are comfortable for me and my partner toenjoy and relax in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamM2 View Post
    While that would make them the same level at 0 db, they would still differ at any other setting including -15 db. Different rooms, speaker efficiencies, amp gain, etc.
    No... that's the whole point of calibrating relative volume so that 0 = 105dB. You're calibrating around the room, speaker efficiencies, amp gain, etc. so that when you turn the volume down -15dB from that reference, it's a linear control.

    Regardless, I just realized we were talking about music here, which makes this question kinda' hard to answer... considering all you can really say is "loud" unless you're actually pulling a SPL meter out and taking an average.
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    Most of the time I listen at slightly higher than moderate levels.
    But when drinking and ping pong is involved, the volume level is proportionate to the number of beers consumed

    Some music is just meant to be played LOUD
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    1/4 to 1/3 most of the time. I tend to turn it louder when I am exercising.

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    As a personal example of how the volume setting really means nothing in regard to the sound level, when I first bought my current two channel system I only had one amp. In stereo mode it makes 350w/channel @ 4 ohm. With this I used to keep the pre-amp around -25db to produce the sound level (70db range) I use for classical music. Later, I bought another amp, and put both into bridged mono mode. In this configuration, each one is rated at 800w/ch at 4 ohm. Now, the pre-amp is set at -45db to produce the same SPL levels as before.

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    Set it as loud as you like. It is completely personal preference, until your wife comes home and tells you to turn it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thsmith View Post
    using SPL meter I prefer 85-87db
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    It depends on the mood for laid back listening on the upstairs system -15dbs will do me fine those Polk's sound pretty sweet at that level, when it comes to the down stairs systems, that's when its time to get LOUD I usually turn the dial to around 10 or 11 o clock, and put those Acoustic Research's to work more than that, and the towns finest would show up at the door, so be it. I must restrain myself to 11 o clock.

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