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    Drenis
    I would take Brocks advice on Mods--at least for now (it ain't broke, so don't try to fix it)*. I did get the Channel Island power supply ($259); can't say that it made a big impact, but I think the Touch is at a level that it is a worthy upgrade. My SQB sounds fantastic. I run mine via coaxial to my DAC, the signal sent wireless. I'll give $1000 to anyone who can distinguish it from my CD transport 7 out of 10 attempts. (I'll give ya 3 "misses"). The key is the same with any system, a good DAC and good speakers. Enjoy!

    *You should see the nearly endless thread of people on the SQB forum who end up with issues after doing those mods.
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    Another worthy source of power supply upgrades is Bolder Cable.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.

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    I ended up buying a duet controller, I love that thing. Sit on my couch and punch up music. Wicked cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nspindel View Post
    Another worthy source of power supply upgrades is Bolder Cable.
    Looking at your system, I bet that sounds real nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nspindel View Post
    Another worthy source of power supply upgrades is Bolder Cable.
    Yes, I used a Bolder modded ELPAC power supply for my previous SQB III
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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    And that same power supply will work just fine with the SBT.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heiney9 View Post
    Yes, I used a Bolder modded ELPAC power supply for my previous SQB III
    Quote Originally Posted by nspindel View Post
    And that same power supply will work just fine with the SBT.
    I sold it with the SQB III because at the time I was told it didn't have enough voltage. Doesn't matter the Welborne looks much cooler

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    Yes. I have 'em both, one in my 2-channel system and the other in my office headphone setup. For a while I was moving one SBT back and forth between the two systems, but I got a second SBT now. I now have two SBT's, one SB3, two SB Radios, and one Boom!
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    Thanks guys. Appreciate all the helpful hints. As I said, I'll be re-reading this thread over the weekend. A PSU upgrade will be next then.

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    Don't feel like you're behind the curve, I'm still learning what different options do.

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    I would hold off on the mods and work on the system and getting it to sound the way you like first. Work on getting it all setup, then work on the dac angle and pre amp before throwing money at SB mods.

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    So while I didn't get ANY time to read this thread again, I did do some more tweaks. Still have some reading up on why some music stations play and others don't. Still need to sort my very messy lossless music media folder.

    I was able to determine that the issue I was experiencing is with the app I use to access my SQBT. It reads the files but upon selection does a blank and the SQBT plays nothing (and shows nothing). When you access the files via the remote on the SQBT itself, files play fine. So something in the app is not updating or working properly.

    Also, is there anyway to have LMS continuously scan for updated media? I always have to rescan anytime I add materiel in that directory. I was very frustrated on Sunday when trying to play a sing for my other half and it wouldn't show up in the artists list. Had to open LMS and tell it to rescan and voila...

    Also noticed the sound has changed a bit. Not sure if thats due to burn in or some setting changes I made. But sound is fuller, bass has expanded and is now fuller to what it SHOULD sound like. Also the second set of MIT's I have in my setup are about a full week and a half burnt in. I'm really diggin' the sound... and so is my other half.

    I put on one of her favorite songs (Coheed & Cambria - Welcome Home) and have her take a listen for her impressions from hearing it on MP3 to now lossless with the addition of the SQBT and DAC with MIT's. Well she noticed a difference. She said it was like you were front and center and the songs made a very exciting performance. What's weird is when I turn it up to a reasonable level... not even 1 watt, maybe 80db and she grabs the remote and starts turning it up to probably 95db and I'm watching the lights on the Carver climb. Rather funny in a sense but we both love the ease of use and how clear the sound is. Has me pondering my next upgrade... cross overs or new speakers. She seems to like the bright sound... I know crossover upgrades will help the musical aspect of my speakers... ahh this damn rabbit hole.

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    Re-scanning after adding music has to be done. There's no auto scan that I'm aware of. A scan for "new or changed music" should only take less than a minute. The "Clear and re-scan" takes a lot longer. You only need to do the latter on rare occasions.

    Sounds like the app you're using is flawed.

    Others have debated with me on this--but I still believe that the music being read from a Hard Drive sounds smoother than from a CD player. I believe it has to do with the method of reading the data....
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    You always have to rescan after adding new music to your database. How does SQB know you added music? Just because you rip it to the HD, doesn't mean SQB knows it's there. The ripping has nothing to do with the SQB so you have to "tell" the software (by asking it to scan) there is new music added. Although the newer version of the software may have an auto feature, I'm not sure though.

    Scan for new music not the entire database scan. As Steve said it should take less than a couple minutes.
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass

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    As an example, I burned 2 new CD's to my library this weekend. The Re-scan for "new or changed" scan took like 25 seconds to add the 2 CD's. I currently have 387 CD's in my library, all flac.

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    There is an auto scan feature buried in the settings. I have mine set to scan every night...I some times upload music remotely. I don't remember where the setting is but I can check later tonight when I get home.

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    Cool...I didn't know that. You're running LMS right? Of course this would require the computer being on 24/7.

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    Okay, here you go!

    First, launch LMS Control Panel
    Click the "Advanced" tab
    Click the "Advanced Settings" button; your web browser will open
    Click the "Advanced" tab
    Select "Rescan Library" from the drop down menu
    Set "Rescan Timer" to on
    Select your rescan time
    Select your rescan type

    You're done!

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    That's a good idea, but if it's set to scan everyday at 10PM and you put a bunch of music in at say 10AM and want to hear it, you still have to rescan it manually to hear it instantly. But that is a good option for someone like myself who is waaaaayyyyyyy behind on scanning to add a few discs each night and then the system will automatically update the scan. Otherwise I see no use for it, or necessarily helping Drenis when he wants to scan and listen.

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    I agree. I would be nice it would actually monitor the folder and add music to the library as it's added to the folder. It doesn't solve the problem of wanting to listen to music you just ripped or added right after adding it...guess that's why they offer the manual scan :-)

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    Logitec obviously does not know we are impatient listeners. LOL.

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    I just tell LMS to rescan as I put away the last CD of the stack that I just ripped to the server.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveinaz View Post
    Re-scanning after adding music has to be done. There's no auto scan that I'm aware of. A scan for "new or changed music" should only take less than a minute. The "Clear and re-scan" takes a lot longer. You only need to do the latter on rare occasions.

    Sounds like the app you're using is flawed.

    Others have debated with me on this--but I still believe that the music being read from a Hard Drive sounds smoother than from a CD player. I believe it has to do with the method of reading the data....
    Thanks. Wasn't sure if there was an option to automatically monitor and update without having to re-scan.

    Quote Originally Posted by heiney9 View Post
    You always have to rescan after adding new music to your database. How does SQB know you added music? Just because you rip it to the HD, doesn't mean SQB knows it's there. The ripping has nothing to do with the SQB so you have to "tell" the software (by asking it to scan) there is new music added. Although the newer version of the software may have an auto feature, I'm not sure though.

    Scan for new music not the entire database scan. As Steve said it should take less than a couple minutes.
    I don't think my question merited a cheap shot... your statement is cheeky. But thanks for the (unnecessarily long) answer...

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    I wasn't being cheeky at all, just throwing some logic out there. Loosen up, and don't think everything is directed to be a personal shot at you.
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    I mentioned this earlier, but if you know where you've put the music that you've added, one alternative to scanning is just browse to it directly via music folder. As soon as you browse into music that it's never seen before, it immediately adds the entire folder to the library.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heiney9 View Post
    I wasn't being cheeky at all, just throwing some logic out there. Loosen up, and don't think everything is directed to be a personal shot at you.
    *delete*

    Maybe I'm just having a bad day...
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    It's all good Andre

    Glad you are enjoying the SQB.

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    Hey guys had an issue with my sbt this morning. Had been working perfectly last night and then when I tried it this morning, it couldn't read any of my library. Tried everything I could think of. Rebooted the touch itself rebooted the pc I'm running Logitech server from and also rebooting the server itself. None of it worked. And when I rescanned library in Lms the tracks went to zero. Finally I just reinstalled Lms and at least it's recognizing the server and is rescanning the music. Hopefully it will work when done scanning. Anyone else have this issue before?

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    Thankfully working now.

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    I downloaded a Luther Vandross mp3 from Amazon and evidently you get the album art too. For some reason the Luther Vandross album art shows up for half of my library. It won't start out that way...I'll have the correct art but at some point it changes to the Luther art :^ / Tried rescanning several times....haven't tried re-installing.
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