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    Ok i have read alot of things here lately on the various forms of computer audio options and using them to get the best audio.
    I have a PC that i have iTunes on as well as Winamp which i like.I have also looked at JRiver ad Media monkey as well as some of the more expensive and extensive programs available.
    i have a squeezebox touch that i love but i have so many files in different places i get doubles, triples,empty folders etc.
    I am a novice with computers.News Audio stuff and porn.
    I cannot decide whether to buy a separate computer to do strictly my music or get one program and wipe out everything else.Which scares me because i am not sure when i delete something if it is gone forever or just still hiding out in another file.
    I do not have time to go back and try to decifer all this and do this tagging you guys all speak due to redundency and just not really understanding it.
    Which leads me to my predicament.
    So i've thought about iMac but can't get a grasp of how it works.Do i need a monitor for that or use a tv or what?
    A cheaper dell or some kind of laptop just for the hifi but then i have issues with using USB.I don't think it's as good as spidf.
    DAMN! I'm so confused!!!!
    I want audiophile quality from a device that feeds my touch. or i'll sell the touch for something better that does all this crap.
    UGH!

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    Here's what I did, but it's probably only part of your solution. Buy yourself another hard drive, and call it your "media" drive. I've got my OS/Programs drive (which is setup in RAID), a backup drive (for true, manual backups) and a media drive (Music, ISO's and program files)

    Move all of your music to 1 location, point your itunes/MM/WinAmp whatever you want to use to that location. Most programs will weed out the duplicates on their own, otherwise once you get yourself organized - it's not all that hard to weed them out as you come across them. I had like 300 songs that were labeled "Track 1", and I'm slowly going through them a few each day and using Sound Hound for my phone to ID them. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glowrdr View Post
    Here's what I did, but it's probably only part of your solution. Buy yourself another hard drive, and call it your "media" drive. I've got my OS/Programs drive (which is setup in RAID), a backup drive (for true, manual backups) and a media drive (Music, ISO's and program files)

    Move all of your music to 1 location, point your itunes/MM/WinAmp whatever you want to use to that location. Most programs will weed out the duplicates on their own, otherwise once you get yourself organized - it's not all that hard to weed them out as you come across them. I had like 300 songs that were labeled "Track 1", and I'm slowly going through them a few each day and using Sound Hound for my phone to ID them. lol
    thanks for the info.i have a lot of Track 1's myself.I feel your pain!

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    I agree with Glowrdr, you need a systematic approach to consolidate and manage your music files. Whatever process you use should be adaptable & changeable in that the management should not be directly tied to the physical hardware (USB, SPDIF, etc.).

    The first step is probably centralization of the files themselves. Buying or using a dedicated hard drive as suggested is a good start. No reason to but a new computer to get started. I happen to use a network attached storage device (NAS) but it could be something you consider down the road. Some of the add=on hard drives can even function as cheap NAS devices. No reason to decide that until later. Just get all the files in one place first and start cleaning them up, tagging them, etc.

    You might want to consider a preferred file format. You may have ACC, MP3, FLAC, WAV(CD) and WMA. If you can tell the difference between USB & SPDIF output quality you probably want to think seriously about a lossless format (Apple or FLAC). If you can't get down to a single format, decide on two formats (maybe an OK format and a Preferred format). Draw the line at 2 and convert everything to one or the other. You cannot effectively manage 4 or 5 formats. Make sure the end management programs (see below) supports them and can do cross conversions during the cleanup effort. Most do.

    It would be a good idea to decide on the management software before you centralize. iTunes, MediaMonkey, Winamp, Logitech Media Server can all be used but it would be much simpler if you just decide on one or two of them. I’m not a huge fan of LMS finding it a little clunky but it is open source, does streaming, and interfaces with a number of devices including your Squeezebox. Maybe that’s the software to use for streaming.

    There’s also no reason you can’t use a “cleanup” program to centralize things – and then use your “distribution & streaming” software to support your various media devices. I find MediaMonkey to be an easy to use program for cleanup, tagging, cross-conversion, etc. No reason you can't use MM for cleanup and maintenance and Logitech for streaming. Pick a program or two & get started. I would not recommend more than two – and both should support files stored in non-proprietary formats & databases.
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    Depends on how you are going to access your music. Streaming to a SQB is a different process than using MM along with the computer. You need all your files in one location, that just makes sense, period. You also need to properly tag your digital files. Come up with a standard way of tagging and do it that way everytime.

    With MM and other programs (I still think MM is the best tool available) you can access your music files from anywhere and play them back via the computer. With the SQB, your music has to be in a single root directory in order for the SQB software to play your music wirelessly. I use MM for my computer rig in my office and I use a SQB (wireless streaming) for the main rig and I have no issues because all my music is stored in a single root directory and I know where to go everytime because all my rips are "ripped" to the single root directory.

    Why people want to complicate this kind of stuff by having music files all over the place on different drives and directories, etc. I'll never understand. It is impossible to implement a good digital music server if you aren't consistent with the ID3 tags and a centralized location.

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    I agree 9 that's why i am getting anal about putting everything together and streamlining the files.
    I don't use my PC to listen to anything just store.I have a ethernet connection to the SB Touch.
    I prefer FLAC but iTunes kills that and with all the crap i have built into that over the years it sucks that they don't do FLAC.
    If i understand correctly it is a waste of time converting MP3 and such to FLAC since you really still have a lossy file in the ned.
    Part of the reason i need something separate and dedicated (i think) is to put what i want in there and then delete all the rest to get rid of dupes.
    i want to start the process this weekend since i am off all of next week and will time to screw around with it.
    just feel overwhelmed right now with the task at hand.

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    I had the same issue with FLAC. I converted everything to Apple Lossless, just for the simplicity since i have an iphone and ipod touch. I've just learned to use and integrate itunes into my life. If may not be the most powerful program out there, but it works. And actually, the Logitech Music Server will integrate with itunes as well (for playlists and such)

    Not turning this into an itunes or not discussion though, just pointing that out.

    As for converting music - you can't go from MP3 to FLAC (you can, but it's not what you're expecting). You can downgrade songs for space reasons, but you cannot upgrade songs from a crappy recording. Make sense?

    Also - you can take a little bit if both sides of the fence on how you manage your music. You seem to want to have a fresh start, which is understandable and will really simplify things. Just consider though, that a clean slate doesn't have to mean a new PC, or even a new hard drive. If you've got the space - just create a folder called "music" or whatever you want. Use that folder as your resting place until you get things sorted out. Delete your dupes, tag your songs, and when you are all said and done - then you will free up some room and can move that folder wherever you want to keep it permanently (same computer, different computer, different drive etc)
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