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    Default Klipsch Chorus II

    The guy I bought my Adcom GFP-750 from tonight was a serious audiophile with some serious gear. He was also a gear hot rodder, like many of you guys. He let me take a listen to his Klipsch Chorus II's and I was very impressed. They had a very different sound than the SDA's. They were forward, but not harsh. Great separation, huge soundstage. Acoustic guitars sounded ridiculously good. It was a very in-your-face & raw type of sound, but it sounded awesome. He performed almost every available mod possible to the Chorus II's and I was convinced it was a good thing. They sounded better than the Sonus Faber Elipsa's I heard a few days ago, no joke.

    Do any of you have experience with these speakers? I'm thinking they would be cool to own one day.

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    I owned a pair of the II's for quite a while several years ago. I didn't believe they were worth the effort of trying to do any mods to as they weren't anything like you're describing. I was quite happy the day they left and I've never had the desire for another pair; not my cup of tea. My memories; harsh; very harsh; no bass; took up more room than they were worth but they were quite efficient though.

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    FWIW, I would opine that the Chorus II was the best sounding of the Klipsch "Heritage" speakers. They're not harsh in that "Sawzall" way that the earlier Klipsch speakers are (were).

    As a postscript, I've always been amused by the cottage industry of modifications for the much-beloved (in some circles) Klipsch Heresy, Cornwall, LaScala, Belle and (even) K-horns. There are, quite literally, folks who rave about their modified (e.g.) Cornwalls... and there is nothing left of their original Cornwalls but the boxes! (and those are often braced and tweaked as well).

    DISCLAIMER - I owned, and enjoyed, a pair of 1974 vintage Cornwalls for a decade. They were lots of fun driven by good quality, low powered vacuum tube amplification and fed very high quality source material ("software"). Anything else, and they were best utilized for removing paint! I got a pair of Altec Valencias and put the Cornies up for sale within days.

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    My Dad owned a pair of Chorus II - they sounded pretty good with the grills off.. with them on they sounded like someone threw a blanket over them, aka the grills
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    Quote Originally Posted by VR3 View Post
    My Dad owned a pair of Chorus II - they sounded pretty good with the grills off.. with them on they sounded like someone threw a blanket over them, aka the grills
    Well I don't know what the hell the guy did to his speakers but they absolutely did not sound like a blanket was over them. He was running tons of heavily, I mean HEAVILY modded gear. He was pushing the Chorus II's with a 20wpc tube amp. They were really something special.

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    To my ears, Klipsch needs tubes, period. On SS gear they are just too bright and dry sounding. Looks like your friend figured that one out awhile back.

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    I would concur... although there is a group of folks who felt that the vintage "twin power" harman/kardon receivers - specifically the hk430 - were a good, and possibly the best, soiled state match for the Heritage Klipsch speakers.



    I will say that the two folks locally whom I know that have Chorus IIs have virtually diametrically opposite approaches to driving them - one pair runs from a fleapowered (ca. 2 wpc) Bottlehead S*E*X amplifier (the original version, ca. 1997); the other pair is attached to a Sansui 9090, a fairly mammoth 1970s Japanese ss receiver. Both sounded quite good, I have to admit.



    EDIT: oh, for the OP's benefit... there's a sort-of parallel thread running at AK today. I already pontificated on this subject there :-)

    http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=423058
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    Chorus II's are a good mix of all that is good about the Klipsch Heritage line. They have some bottom end not huge but like Tony and Mhardy said they need tubes.

    SS gear and Klipsch Horns can hurt the ears.

    I have owned many but I doubt I will ever buy another pair. They get boring after a while.
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    Never heard a Klipsch I could stand. Way too in my face for me. I haven't listened to them all though.

    Polk and Klipsch couldn't be more at the opposite ends of the pole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heiney9 View Post
    Never heard a Klipsch I could stand. Way too in my face for me. I haven't listened to them all though.

    Polk and Klipsch couldn't be more at the opposite ends of the pole.

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    Couldn't agree more. My 2.3s replaced a pair of chorus II's and it was one of my better moves audiowise.
    Now if I could've listened to some good advice and set those 2.3s up correctly...........

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    Going to pick up a pair today.... In your face is good. They will be garage speakers!
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    Two things with heritage series Klipsch's.
    1. They need Bob Crites tweeter upgrade otherwise most find them too bright. Older listeners who don't have perfect ears like them more.
    2. They work best with tube amps.

    I've had few different old Klipsch's and don't like them.
    I am now considering Klipsch RF series for home theater to see how I like the new models for movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystery View Post
    Two things with heritage series Klipsch's.
    1. They need Bob Crites tweeter upgrade otherwise most find them too bright. Older listeners who don't have perfect ears like them more.
    2. They work best with tube amps.

    I've had few different old Klipsch's and don't like them.
    I am now considering Klipsch RF series for home theater to see how I like the new models for movies.
    Yes the Crites drivers are going to ordered likely. Doubtful I will use tubes as I don't want to mess with bias issues etc. Low maintenance is good for me.
    I may do Crites xover upgrade too, unless I can find someone on here to do it cheaper/better.
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    I wonder if I can try my tube pre/DAC to get a taste for it. I have an Aune T1 that is pretty warm.
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    You can do it yourself for cheaper, and Klipsch makes fairly easy to XOs to work on.

    Try a tripath based amp on those as they are cheap, no tube maintenance, and most have a warm sound with horns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nguyendot View Post
    I wonder if I can try my tube pre/DAC to get a taste for it. I have an Aune T1 that is pretty warm.
    Yes you can or get a different tube buffer that works well with these.

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    I'll try it with the Threshold CAS-2 (only 2 chan I have right now). I also have some low powered Pioneer SS equipment that I believe is warm. Guess all I can do is try it and see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyb View Post
    To my ears, Klipsch needs tubes, period. On SS gear they are just too bright and dry sounding. Looks like your friend figured that one out awhile back.
    Quote Originally Posted by mhardy6647 View Post
    I would concur... although there is a group of folks who felt that the vintage "twin power" harman/kardon receivers - specifically the hk430 - were a good, and possibly the best, soiled state match for the Heritage Klipsch speakers.



    I will say that the two folks locally whom I know that have Chorus IIs have virtually diametrically opposite approaches to driving them - one pair runs from a fleapowered (ca. 2 wpc) Bottlehead S*E*X amplifier (the original version, ca. 1997); the other pair is attached to a Sansui 9090, a fairly mammoth 1970s Japanese ss receiver. Both sounded quite good, I have to admit.



    EDIT: oh, for the OP's benefit... there's a sort-of parallel thread running at AK today. I already pontificated on this subject there :-)

    http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=423058
    Totally with Tony and Mark here. Unfortunately, though I do have an HK 430 in the fold I don't currently have any vintage Klipsch to test that out. I will say that so far, I haven't found a vintage bookie that hasn't liked the 430. I currently have some Dynaco A25s that are oh so "smooth" on this receiver and a pair of JBL 2600 whose titanium tweeter popped, so I substituted a FAR more listenable VIFA treated fabric dome that is SO MUCH better than the originals on these it's hard to believe they once had cheap metal dome tweeters in there. I love the VIFAs and they're almost a perfect match, just a tiny bit of sizzle on some tracks up top which is still very listenable.

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